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#226 [Permalink] Posted on 9th August 2015 12:56

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Anyway out of interest which are the real amils of the present. Also which ulama of the past did a chilla? Which of them recommended heavy amaliyaat?

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#227 [Permalink] Posted on 9th August 2015 12:58

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This is not an argument. I want to know.

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#228 [Permalink] Posted on 9th August 2015 13:00

I am being asked to clarify WHY I named a companion.

Either you people can't read and have a lack of understanding due to your passion for aamils or other members who are untouchable and can't make mistakes.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything and the point was made clear already.

this is becoming a form of pagalpan too.

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#229 [Permalink] Posted on 9th August 2015 13:02

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Brother Muadh will answer just waiting on op to answer : (just in case you missed it)

www.muftisays.com/forums/41-speech--urdu/10272-truth-abou...

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#230 [Permalink] Posted on 9th August 2015 13:08

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So out of all people you had to use the name of a Sahaabi رضي الله عنه, couldn't you find no one else ? Why ?

Op almost had a heart attack because of you and had to clarify his aqeedah lol despite no one asking him.

Passion for amils ? More like a dislike for redundant blanket statements that do nothing but write of a whole field whom many akabireen of Deoband were experts off. Names of Ulema and their books have been provided in the past few pages several times.

Somebody asked you a question and your getting touchy already lol, we've been at it for 15 pages with op :D

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#231 [Permalink] Posted on 9th August 2015 13:16

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I know you did'nt, you said majority; just trying to make a point.

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#232 [Permalink] Posted on 9th August 2015 13:20

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Then it's irrelevant, when you already know.

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#233 [Permalink] Posted on 9th August 2015 13:26

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Which post am I supposed to reply for now???

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#234 [Permalink] Posted on 9th August 2015 13:29

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Well done Masha'Ala by quoting the right post

I guess that's a start for now 16 pages later

Insha'Ala, here it is again you can start with these...
www.muftisays.com/forums/41-speech--urdu/10272-truth-abou...

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#235 [Permalink] Posted on 9th August 2015 13:34

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Somebody asked you a question and your getting touchy already lol, we've been at it for 15 pages with op :D

No!
bri Muadh wants us to sin (entrapment) and then have a field day at our expense.

not our fault a minority have understood something else.

as far as I see it, no one here is qualified as a scholar, bar one person plus the speaker. and both understood what the purpose of the talk was.

there's no denying that aamils exist, the point for the gazillionth time is that this talk is talking about ALL The fraudsters who go round as professional aamils.

there are threads and posts where everyone here admits to this reality but you've all decided to make a mountain out of a molehill.

two groups of people understand the lecture differently, those who understood it the it was meant to be have done well, those who have made it a mission to misinterpret the talk are doing not so well.

what can I say.

I'm out of here, I'm gonna blow three times and disappear.

fu fu fu

(but I still love and respect each and everyone of you, wallahi)

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#236 [Permalink] Posted on 9th August 2015 13:46

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One I doubt brother Muadh by any point meant to entrap anyone, don't think he's that sort, yes he tried to make a point which people are still failing to understand.

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there's no denying that aamils exist, the point for the gazillionth time is that this talk is talking about ALL The fraudsters who go round as professional aamils.

No what we've been trying to say and I'll say it again for the billionth time that you can't just come and make blanket statements, meaning you can't just write a whole field off, and the irony is many of the akabireen were experts of this field. There is no argument in regards to fakes and that was clarified in the start please read the thread. I repeat once again ' its about the blanket statements', hope that makes sense.

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there are threads and posts where everyone here admits to this reality but you've all decided to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Not not at all, it's op who's still twisting and turning, we've been clear and straight up from the start. Yes if he had also been straight up and willing to budge then it would never have become a 16 page thread.

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#237 [Permalink] Posted on 9th August 2015 15:08

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I asked you one simple question that what was the point of argument? Please don't write a whole page on it, as is your habit, just answer in one simple line.

Then we shall continue insha'Allah.

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#238 [Permalink] Posted on 9th August 2015 15:22

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#239 [Permalink] Posted on 9th August 2015 15:24

16 pages so far lol, i bet the the peeople who were in that bayan didnt discuss for this long afterwards

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#240 [Permalink] Posted on 9th August 2015 15:30

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No!

You are asked to standby a Fatwa which you are defending.

I will give you the name of a well known Deobandi who does Amaliyaat and I would just like you and Hazrat Abdullah Saheb to say:

_________ is a Paagal (Lunatic)

I don't know which Dictionary you possess but this isn't entrapment but standing by and implementing your words. Where did this test come from? Shaykh (Maulana) Yusuf Ludhyanwi (RA), happy to provide you with reference if you wish.

But all you guys seem to be able to do is disrespect, throw mud at others but you CANNOT seem to be able to act on a Fatwa which you are defending!

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