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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2014 17:53

Before we set off to the address given to us by Ameer-saab, we do du'a and this has been mentioned many times. That the du'a is virtuous and is more likely to be accepted than saying the du'a in Masjid Al-Haram and Al-Nabwi, and it's a similar du'a the people of Bani Israel use to make? The people of Bani Israel were renegades and gave Musa (AS) a hard time.

Can anyone share the narration, please?

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2014 19:13

Can you share the Dua please, this way it can be cross referenced.

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2014 20:06

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Salaams brother.

It's not a specific du'a, but in can be about anything and it'll be accepted because you're going out in the path of Allah to service Allah's cause and therefore it is guaranteed to be accepted.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2014 20:25

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Sorry brother, the Hadith you mention (or seek) is "for me" for jihad and not tabligh. Allahu alum.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2014 20:27

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I thought as much, but I can't find the narration. I hope a brother when time permitting will be able to track it down.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2014 21:05

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I remember a narration vaguely about Sayidinah Umar رضي الله عنه who went behind a mujahid, stopped him and asked him to make Dua for him. But I'm bot sure about the significance of it being more superior than that of a Dua in Baitullah. Allahu alum.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2014 22:36

Check this thread, there is no way these narrations can be substituted for tabligh, i.e. going in the "other" path of Allah.

www.muftisays.com/forums/12-virtues/5397-the-shortest-pat...

The incident about Umar رضي الله عنه is in the OP towards the end.

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2014 00:00

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The incident regarding Umar (RA) which, post is it? I can't find it.

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2014 11:11

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Sorry, my fault, it was in the second post.

It is stated in a narration of Kanzul Ummal that a person came to 'Umar (رضي الله عنه) and asked for a horse. Hazrat 'Umar (رضي الله عنه) set the saddle on the horse and when that person started to ride off Hazrat 'Umar (رضي الله عنه) followed that person requesting he would supplicate for him. When 'Umar (رضي الله عنه) departed from him, that person said, 'O Allah give 'Umar (رضي الله عنه) the best reward.' (Kanzul Ummal, Vol 2, p289)

But I'm sure there is a more detailed version too.

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2014 13:27

If you are genuine in your quest....

Then since you visit Dewsbury on a regular basis, why not ask the Ulema and seniors of TJ there ? I don't really understand when someone has access to them why they won't take avail of them and instead start posting on a online forum to ask randoms. Don't add up.

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2014 13:28

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Is that your personal ijttihad ?

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2014 13:42

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Because we leave right after Tashkeel and read Isha in Leeds. We don't stay for the entire program.

The other Ulema, I know at times take time to reply, so it's easier to get an opinion on here first.

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2014 14:17

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Brother, those Hadith are categorically for jihad since they mention fighting. I can't see how it can be justified for a mujahid who spends his money on his armour etc and then a sincere tablighi brother spending his money on a blanket for Jamaat, and they both claim the Hadith is for them, surely the jihad is greater and those Hadith are specifically for that.

I appreciate there are differences of opinion and I've read and understood the works of Shaykh Zakaria etc, but if we try telling a mujahid that these rewards can be gained by going in Jamaat too, he will be very very upset.

Yes it all depends on intention, for if the mujahid has the wrong intention, then he will be from into hellfire, no doubt.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2014 14:33

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السلام عليكم

If you really are genuine and keep an open mind and not let your nafs get in the way, then I think you'll be better of asking there first inshala plus Leeds and Dewsbury are not very far at all. It's not like London and Glasgow, just a mere 15/20 min drive.

You can ask the ulema and then the students and then the senior TJ workers there at Dewsbury

Coming online despite having these options available seems a bit futile and absurd especially when you have ulema and senior workers of TJ avaiable at your disposal

Let us know what they say and also to the many many questions you have, maybe make a list and track someone down like Maulana Abdus Samad or one of the teachers there such as Maulana Yusuf Duhaan or any of the Mufti Sachas or the best one that ill recommend is Maulana Muhammad Ali the tall Bengali one.

Another option will be book a ticket to Nizamuddin or Tongi ijtema and inshala maybe you can ask the Arabs from Makkah Madinah etc that the verses and ahadith used for TJ are restricted for J only and all the other questions you may have. Insha'Ala they'll give you sufficient replies, and if you can't make the journey then there are usually plenty of Arab Jamaat's around at times in Lancashire, Yorkishire, find out where they are, go see them and ask all your questions.

Let us know inshala how it goes.

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2014 14:37

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We've all been here brother and you know that

The term is not limited to Qital only

Yes difference of opinions exist, but to come out with what you said above is a bit unfair dont you think ? Especially when we've been through all of this before over many many pages in the other thread.

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