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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 18:37
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Interesting, so there are narrations of this du'a even though it's for Taraweeh?
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 18:54
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But you take all my answers from the Q&A section and I ain't even an Imam. Even though the answers are from scholars, so many of them are not even verified by Quran and Sunnah, just from older books of learned scholars.

Brother you have to be very careful not to fall into the same trap as the ghair muqallideen.


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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 19:14
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Unfortunately, a thorough search of the books of ahādīth, tafāsīr, fiqh, etc. did not reveal a single mention of this du'ā' anywhere. However, some parts of the above du'ā' are mentioned in several books of tafsīr as the tasbīh of the angels.[12] Yet, none of the books, whether of tafāsīr or any other Islāmic science, have narrated this exact du'ā' in any context, let alone as the "Tarāwīh Du'ā'."
www.askimam.org/public/question_detail/18324
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 19:18
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 19:28
We ALL agree that it's not Sunnah.

The books of Fiqh have clearly mentioned that it is mustahab to recite some form of Dhikr as posted with the first answer on page 1.

The tabi' tabieen performed Tawaf as their tarweeha as mentioned previously, the tabi' tabieen of Madinah prayed 4 nafil rakats as their tarweeha. So for us to do a small amount of ANY Dhikr is clearly better and a good act, i.e. mubah/mustahab.

People debate about the number of rakaats for taraweeh with the evidence we have, and here we are discussing an act we all know is not Sunnah!
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 19:34
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I appreciate the effort you make, akhi, but I don't re-call I ever said I heed every one of those fatwas with no daleels. When you've found something when I haven't, I read it myself and make my own decision.
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 19:36
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Interesting.
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 19:38
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Were therse 4 rakats after the prescribed number of rakats?
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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 19:50
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These 4 rakats were nafil rakaats that were performed individually bythe people of Madinah because they couldn't perform Tawaf and felt like they were receiving lesser rewards than their brothers in Makkah.

After 4 rakaats of taraweeh were done in congregations (jamaat) where as the nafil were done individually.


The point is, the Salaf used this "pause" in between the 4 rakaats to gain additional rewards.

What you do with your time is up to you, but at the end of the day, we have Daleel from the Salaf of doing that little extra and not that little less.

Please listen to the talk by Shaykh Riyadh ul Haq on taraweeh, excellent talk with plenty of narrations we've never heard of before.
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 19:58
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Jazak'Allah, brother.

Do you have a link?
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 20:15
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See this blog post. Dr Naik is doing the same thing of taking the Quran and Hadith "literally" and making a bit if a blunder here. Khair, after my responses to his talk, the main lecture is posted at the bottom. Excellent lecture.


www.muftisays.com/blog/abu+mohammed/392_23-08-2010/tarawe...
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 20:21
One side question brother, if you take only that which is from the Quran or Sunnah. Please show me one Hadith in which the prophet (saw) mentioned "Taraweeh".

Remember I said The Prophet (saw).
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 20:46
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"Hold on firmly to my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the Khulafah Rashideen."

(Ibn Majah, Abu Dawood)

So:

Sayyidina Abu Rahman bin Abdul Qari RA related: I left one night in Ramadhan with Sayyidina Umar bin Khattab RA and we headed towards the Masjid of the Prophet SAW . In the Masjid we saw various groups of people praying alone or behind an Imam and they were scattered over the Masjid. Umar bin Khattab RA made a decision to congregate all the people behind Sayyidina Ubay ibn Ka'ab RA . (Sahih Bukhari vol 1, p269)


The fact Umar (RA) brought the Sunnah back when he found many Jamats is a clear confirmation this is what the Prophet (SAW) used to do.
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 21:01
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Correct, this is what the prophet (saw) used to do. But did the prophet ever say "taraweeh"

Don't worry it's not a test and I'm not trying to catch you out or anything. Just making an off topic point/lesson for others too.
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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd July 2014 21:26
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No, I don't re-call the Prophet (SAW) ever said that.
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