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#46 [Permalink] Posted on 8th January 2015 19:16
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Spot on.
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#47 [Permalink] Posted on 8th January 2015 19:50
I just want to clarify that in no way am i saying innocents should have been killed.....BUT in no way will i sit here behind a computer and say what this newspaper was doing was acceptable. I for one are deeply offended by this newspapers actions but also i am hurt that we are the ones who have to suffer for others actions. I agree with the above, killing will only lead to more oppressions for the Muslims around the globe and especially France now. I feel saddened that we Muslims are being portrayed as monsters because certain individuals feel they have the right to go around taking matters into the own hands.


Only ALLAH swt knows best.....
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#48 [Permalink] Posted on 8th January 2015 21:49
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#49 [Permalink] Posted on 9th January 2015 02:29
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#50 [Permalink] Posted on 9th January 2015 07:33
Every Monday in my city we had demonstration with thousands in solidarity with emigrants (and Muslims) and against the demonstrations filled with Islam-hatred of PEDIGA (which did not exist in my city, although it's second largest in the country). Now, we will have demonstration in solidarity with Charlie Hebdo. Great Job!
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#51 [Permalink] Posted on 9th January 2015 08:44
I am surprised by many comments here.
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#52 [Permalink] Posted on 9th January 2015 12:15
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#53 [Permalink] Posted on 9th January 2015 12:26
maybe omar suleiman should explain who provoked dante to write divine comedy...and what provoked europe to insut Rasul Allah (SAW) for centuries

i wonder if the secular extremists have stopped making fun of jews and christians now that they have agreed to not kill anyone for blasphemy...maybe omar suleiman can answer that
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#54 [Permalink] Posted on 9th January 2015 12:56
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France Info could join an exclusive Didier, a commercial that says having crossed the path of Kouachi Friday morning brothers Dammartin-en-Goële. He had an appointment in the company CTD where they are cut off. He says that one of the brothers told him "This is the police. Leave it does not kill civilians."

"I met a terrorist and I shook his hand," that is the sole testimony of Didier, a commercial who says he crossed the road Friday Kouachi brothers suspected of being the perpetrators of the attack against Charlie Hebdo on wednesday. He had appointments this morning in the CTD company Dammartin-en-Goële in Seine-et-Marne where entrenched Sharif and Said Kouachi.

"When I arrived, my client is out with an armed person who presented the police, my client asked me to leave, so I left. The person who was presented as the police m 'said,' Go, anyway we do not kill civilians', which ç'est me tremendously challenged and j'ai decided to call the police. I guess one of c'était terrorists. "

"I have not formally recognized them, they were dressed as police intervention, black outfit, bulletproof vest and gun. It could have been a police officer if he did not tell me we do not kill civilians'. They were heavily armed, as police officers involved with the type FAMAS rifles. I was in front of the company, I shook hands with Michael and one of the terrorists. He said 'I am the police. Go, we do not kill civilians'. After I left, and Michel closed the gate behind me. I left in the wake, "says Didier yet.
 
"I did not know if he was a hostage, burglary. I knew there was something wrong. I have not heard gunshot." "I think I'm going to see my colleagues and play the lottery because I have been very lucky this morning."


google translation of french article:
www.franceinfo.fr/actu/faits-divers/article/dammartin-en-...
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#55 [Permalink] Posted on 9th January 2015 14:02
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This is the main problem. He is talking about consequences of the acts of vigilantes. Can you imagine how much other Muslims will have to pay for it?

Disclaimer: I am not a fan/follower/supporter of Omar Suleiman and don't know him.
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#56 [Permalink] Posted on 9th January 2015 15:05
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Excellent article. First point was straightforward:

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Charlie Hebdo is about the most offensive, racist, and malevolent publication one can imagine. France subjugated the nations of Algeria, Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, Senegal, and more recently Mali and Central African Republic to name a few, killed their people like animals, dismantled their institutions of religion, state, trade, education, and culture, and left despotic lunacy in their wake, all without ever apologizing. Those of its former colonies who decided to pursue economic opportunities in France were rewarded by ghettoisation, institutional racism, systemic discrimination in government services, jobs, and social spheres to the point that France actually legislates what a Muslim woman can and cannot wear. On top of that, they selectively enshrine the right of a racist publication to repeatedly desecrate the one who those downtrodden people love more than anyone and anything else, 'alayhissalatu wassalam?

Sound familiar? It is along the lines of what white folk in America did to Black folk, and although even I find some exaggeration in that analogy, I contend that the exaggeration is quantitative, not qualitative, in terms of the master/servant dynamic at play. Imagine if the KKK had a publication the prime directive of which was to degrade, humiliate and dehumanize black folks, Jews, and Catholics (which Charlie Hebdo does quite frequently as well, or at least did till recently); if two black men did to it what happened to Charlie Hebdo, how would black folk respond, even if they didn't agree with the methods used, or the use of lethal force? How would you expect them to respond? How fake would an outpouring of support for freedom of speech by racist parties at such an occasion be?

This is not an exaggeration. In the USA we have a more fair benchmark for freedom of speech and religion. It may not conform to the standards of Islamic law, but it is much more fair. In France, there are laws that ban female Muslims from attending school in Hijab, from wearing the Niqab at all, and mosques are systematically and routinely denied permits to build despite overcrowding and genuine need. It is a state which utterly fails to uphold freedom of religion by American standards. It also has stridently outlawed anti-Semitic (Jewish) speech, which, despite me not objecting to it, means that it also fails the American standard of freedom of speech as well. Period. Charlie Hebdo used to do business with the same staff and a different name until 1970; it was Hara Kiri Hebdo, until it was banned in that year by the French Interior Ministry for its disrespectful material regarding the death of former French President Charles de Gaulle. WAIT! WHAT? Yes, it was actually censored by the French government, and it had to reopen by a different name, Charlie Hebdo (hebdo meaning "weekly"). Now tell me how this frankly racist state (no pun intended), which has actually severely censured and censored this malevolently racist publication in the past for its outbursts against a French hero, can show a straight face when it defends the aforementioned publication as beacon of freedom and free speech? This is nonsense. Anyone who acts like what happened is a purely one-sided instance of hate against an innocent party, is being disingenuous to say the least.
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#57 [Permalink] Posted on 9th January 2015 15:45
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obviously there will be consequences...we do not believe living in dar ul harb wal kufr is permitted for Muslims...if someone believes it is so, then be ready for the consequences...and the kuffaar will not just be enraged by these killings, but also if anyone resists them anywhere in the world militarily...and they will make the Muslims in their lands the scapegoat...so if you live there you got to understand the reality.
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#58 [Permalink] Posted on 9th January 2015 16:10

Special forces (#GIGN) storm building in #Dammartin where #CharlieHebdo suspects hiding f24.my/YTliveEN
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#59 [Permalink] Posted on 9th January 2015 16:22
The brothers are dead
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#60 [Permalink] Posted on 9th January 2015 16:30
Killed Charlie Hebdo suspects came out firing on security forces: source (AFP) f24.my/1tSg2hL
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