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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2013 07:45

Asslamo Allaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh,

Despite the knowledge, Tawqa and experience of my honourable teacher Shaykh (Dr) Akram Nadwi  (HA) and backing there is one fundamental problem with Yasmin Mogahed (Mujahid)’s mixed programs which can neither be overlooked nor explained away!

[24:31] And tell the believing women that they must lower their gazes and guard their private parts, and must not expose their adornment, except that which appears thereof, and must wrap their bosoms with their shawls, and must not expose their adornment, except to their husbands or their fathers or the fathers of their husbands, or to their sons or the sons of their husbands, or to their brothers or the sons of their brothers or the sons of their sisters, or to their women, or to those owned by their right hands, or male attendants having no (sexual) urge, or to the children who are not yet conscious of the shames of women. And let them not stamp their feet in a way that the adornment they conceal is known. And repent to Allah O believers, all of you, so that you may achieve success.

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2013 07:46

Shaykh Mohammad Daniel (Cordoba Academy) issues Ruling:

In ending, I would like to say that if one studies the books of Usool and the Maqasid (purposes) behind the prohibitions of actions they realize that there are many actions that have been deemed Haraam even though they may contain some apparent benefit in them. The scholars have said that this is because people vary in their level of susceptibility to these things and so the prohibition encompasses everyone. I feel that this sort of activity for which I cannot find any pressing need in the Ummah to justify its dispensation, nor am I convinced will contain more good than bad, is not to be condoned and depending on the frequency of the factors above is either severely disliked or completely prohibited.

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2013 07:48

Mufti Zakaria Makada of South Africa issuing Ruling:

Question: Yasmin Mogahead is giving a talk in Dewsbury. I feel that as she doesn't wear purdah and also address's mixed gatherings,even if her words can change hearts, i don't think it is correct, even participating in a female only gathering of hers.Please help asap so that the reply can be sent before the talk.

ANSWER: It is totally un-Islamic that a strange woman publicly address a mixed audience of men and woman. In Islam, it is compulsory for a woman to remain within the confines of her home and observe purdah from na mahram strange men.However, if the Ulama and the pious of that area attest to the piety of a specific woman, then after adopting all measures in terms of purdah, they may allow her to address a group of women in private. There are many Ahaadith which are reported from Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) with regards to the compulsion of purdah in Islam. Refer to

And Allah Ta'ala (الله تعالى) knows best.

Answered by:

Mufti Zakaria Makada

Checked & Approved:

Mufti Ebrahim Salejee

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2013 07:51

Shaykhul-Hadeeth (Maulana) Abdur-Raheem Limbada (HA) issues a ruling on twitter:

Yasmin mogahid:

Q: Should we attend her talk or listen to the Ulema who say "Don't?

A: What does zina of the eyes & ears mean? Stay away!

Clarification on his youtube Lessons:

9h

what about women looking at male speakers giving bayans at events or even on YouTube?

9h

Ihtiyaat is needed there too, it's allowed bcos of need Salaf wud address ladies However, care shud b taken from both sides

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2013 07:56
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2013 10:45

Shaykh Mufti Zubair Dudha (HA) of Dewsbury UK

Phone confirmation: It is not advised for our Muslim Sisters to attend this gathering.

Deliberation of Ulamah of Dewsbury: (local) Ulamah of Dewsbury have discussed the matter and a (combined) statement will be issued after Friday from Masjids within Dewsbury.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2013 17:49

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W-Salam,

Not an Alim or anything similar by a long margin.

[24:31] And tell the believing women that they must lower their gazes and guard their private parts, and must not expose their adornment, except that which appears thereof, and must wrap their bosoms with their shawls, and must not expose their adornment, except to their husbands or their fathers or the fathers of their husbands, or to their sons or the sons of their husbands, or to their brothers or the sons of their brothers or the sons of their sisters, or to their women, or to those owned by their right hands, or male attendants having no (sexual) urge, or to the children who are not yet conscious of the shames of women. And let them not stamp their feet in a way that the adornment they conceal is known. And repent to Allah O believers, all of you, so that you may achieve success.

The issue in the Qur'aan is very clear and the Huk'm of Allah (SWT) is Qat'i so a woman is not allowed to even dress in a manner which attracts a man let alone sit there laugh, crack jokes and divert attention towards herself deliberately.

Her teacher Shaykh (Dr) Akram Nadwi (HA):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlhJk7t3Gco

  1. Doesn't say that Niqab covering the face is a difference of opinion and not obligatory or Mustahab, he flat out says that it has NOTHING to do with Shariah and it is a custom of Arab noblemen before Islam and both men and women wore it
  2. He then also says that in the history of Islam men and women Hadeeth Scholars (Non-Mahram) sat side by side and gave Hadeeth Dars to Halaqahs of men and women
  3. Shaykh Akram Nadwi (HA) gave an interview to BBC in which he said limiting women is equal to burying them alive
Anyone is welcome to look at these quotes and investigate the youtube videos, based on that we neither disrespect our dear respected and honored Sister Yasmin Mogahed nor our honorable Shaykh (Dr) Akram Nadwi (HA) but we do advise British Muslims to learn their Deen from Ulamah whose thinking and ideology is closer to Sunnah of Sayyidina Rasul-ullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam). We don't live in Dewsbury and have no connections with local people or Ulamah and don't know the local political scene but we would like to ask our Sisters two questions:
  1. Is the opposition to Allah (SWT) & Sunnah of Sayyidina Rasul-ullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) worth it?
  2. Take a good look at all the above and would you DENY and TURN away simply because you have issues with some local Ulamah?

Would you give this excuse to Allah (SWT) on the day of judgement that you stuck to Sister Yasmin Mogahed simply because she was a woman? Or simply because you wanted to defy some local Ulamah who you are not happy with?

Does your mind ACTUALLY BELIEVE that it is allowed for a woman to sit in front of a man and ask them to look at them and to joke with them and to listen to her voice?

Does your mind ACTUALLY BELIEVE that women Scholars of Hadeeth sat on the stage with Na-Mehram men and gave lectures to mixed Halaqahs of men and women?


So the issue isn't about this specific gathering of women but about WHO is propagating it and their BACKGROUND. As the Ulamah have said get a pious woman to give lectures to women (already happens in other places in UK) and if you don't have this facility in Dewsbury I am behind you 100%. Tell me we will start a campaign for women Halaqahs in Dewsbury but I can't allow a Sister and her teacher to have these opinions and to lecture my daughters on Islam!

I Fear that Allah (SWT) will question me for this.

Jazakullah Khairun

 

 

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2013 19:12
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Does your mind ACTUALLY BELIEVE that it is allowed for a woman to sit in front of a man and ask them to look at them and to joke with them and to listen to her voice?


Reminds us of all the hoohaas that took place with Jack Straw and the sister in the Niqab.

Amazing how we as Muslims have double standards.

One day "YES" and the next day "NO".

There is uproar when a Kaafir says it, but when the Muslims want to actually do it, the uproar goes against the Muslims. I dont get it!
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2013 20:47

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Because it’s from a person who according to views of the Scholars is committing a brazen act which is against explicit text of the Qur’aan and even if she fulfils the criteria on one occasion her stance has a bearing particularly when she is trying to impart the Sunnah.

The Hanafi and Hanbali Madhab both disapprove of a person with a short Beard leading the Salah, his act has no bearing on his Tahajjud, Tajweed, Taqwa and knowledge and if he denies an act even being there in the first place then it’s a bigger problem.

Even if a person who followed Shaf’ae Madhab would be politely requested that it is closer to caution and to accommodate others to refrain from leading but if the person out rightly denies an injunction to even exist then there isn’t a lot of room left to negotiate, then is there?

Shaykh (Dr) Akram Nadwi (HA) and by extension our respected Sister Yasmin is not saying that there is a difference of opinion on Niqab and segregation at all. There are saying that the former is a Pre-Islamic Arab culture for both men and women and the later has no basis in any Madhab at all.

So far everyone who has disagreed with them has been labelled to be disrespectful or Fitnah-Monger, my (unauthorised and false) life story now exists on facebook, Shaykh Mohammad Daniel (HA) has been labelled as a Pseudo-Salafi, fabricator imposter by a “Hanafi” but NOT ONE person has actually discussed this Ayah:

[24:31] And tell the believing women that they must lower their gazes and guard their private parts, and must not expose their adornment, except that which appears thereof, and must wrap their bosoms with their shawls, and must not expose their adornment, except to their husbands or their fathers or the fathers of their husbands, or to their sons or the sons of their husbands, or to their brothers or the sons of their brothers or the sons of their sisters, or to their women, or to those owned by their right hands, or male attendants having no (sexual) urge, or to the children who are not yet conscious of the shames of women. And let them not stamp their feet in a way that the adornment they conceal is known. And repent to Allah O believers, all of you, so that you may achieve success.

And the fact that Non-Deobandees like Shaykh (Dr) Haitham Al-Hadaad (HA) are of the same opinion regarding Niqab, free-mixing and...

Saudi Fatwa committe: ...It is haraam for male and female students and teachers to mix in educational institutions, because of the fitnah and provocation of desires and immoral conduct that results from that...

Shaykh Uthaymeen (RA): ...What I think is that it is not permissible for anyone, man or woman, to study in a mixed school, because of the grave danger that it poses to his chastity, integrity and morals...

Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid: ...The choice facing our sister is a choice between what is right and what is wrong, between what is halaal and what is haraam...

 

It is easier to isolate people and portray them as fanatics or extremists and detach them from others with the same opinions and most importantly its easier to throw dirt at people, make accusations but not actually discuss the issues at hand.  Ask all your freinds at your hangout:

  1. What is the position of Shaykh (Dr) Haitham Al-Hadaad (HA) on Niqab and free-mixing?
  2. What is the position of Shaykh (Dr) Haitham Al-Hadaad (HA) on someone who doesn't acknowledge a difference of opinion, doesn't regard it as Mustahab but brazenly regards it as unIslamic and brazenly calls segregation unIslamic in clear words?

If Shaykh (Dr) Haitham Al-Hadaad (HA), Shaykh Ibn Baz (RA), Shaykh Uthaymeen (RA) have same or very simlar opinions then what crime have the Deobandees committed by having the guts to stand  up for what they believe to be the Sunnah?

AND even if the above Shuyukh agree with the Deobandees on the Fiqh positon of Niqab and segregation bvut disagree with the Dewsbury (women only event) again what crime have the Deobandees committed by having the guts to stand  up for what they believe to be the Sunnah?

At least the Deobandees are standing firm for Sunnah and remaining firm in the face of ferocious assault and personal attacks from all and sundry and not making it personal :-)

You should see wha the messages from Shaykh Daniel Mohammad (HA) despite knowing what is being said about him and also having the ability to defend himself!

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2013 20:53
Extract below by Mufti Husain Kadodia from "The Niqab and its obligation in the Hanafi madhab":

3.1. Types of gazes and their respective rulings

A male's gaze towards a strange female's face or hands would fall under one of the following three categories:

3.1.1. A gaze accompanied with conviction of no possibility of attraction

This is the case mentioned in most texts and which has been misunderstood by many. The ruling of the�imam's�of the madhhab�is clear in that this gaze would be permissible.[7]

However, this has been clearly conditioned with absolute conviction of no possibility of�shahwah�appearing in the heart towards her.[8]

The early jurists of the�madhhab, who lived just after the�imams, knew that this scenario was only possible in bygone times when purity and chastity were dominant,[9]�and, so, expecting a young man's gaze at a young woman to be completely free of desire is unfathomable in these times.�They thus classified such a gaze to be�makruh tahrimi(highly disliked and close to forbidden).[10]

From amongst the luminaries who mentioned this ruling are: Abu 'l-Layth al-Samarqandi (d.373 AH),[11]�Al-Quduri (d. 428 AH),[12]�Al-Walwaliji (d. 540 AH),[13]�Siraj al-Din al-Awshi (d. 575 AH),[14]�Al-Sunnami (d. after 700 AH),[15]�'Alim ibn al-'Ala (d. 786 AH),[16]�Al-Quhustani (d. 950 AH),[17]�Al-Birgivi (d. 981 AH),[18]�the authors of�Al-Fatawa al-Hindiyyah(completed in 1085 AH),[19]�Al-Haskafi (d. 1088 AH),[20]�Al-Khadimi (d. 1176 AH),[21]�Al-Tahtawi (d. 1231 AH),[22]�Ibn 'Abidin (d. 1252 AH),[23]�'Abid al-Sindhi (d. 1257 AH)[24]�and Al-Maydani (d. 1298 AH).[25]

Also worthy of note is that this ruling has been recorded from none other than the great�imam�and�mujtahid�of the madhhab, Imam Abu Yusuf al-Qadi.[26]�

This ruling is not applicable to old women who have passed the age of being desired, as they have been clearly exempted from these rulings.[27]

Thus, the authoritative position of the�madhhab�is that while looking at the face of a strange female is not completely forbidden when there exists conviction of no desire at all towards her, it would still be�makruh tahrimi.

3.1.2. A gaze accompanied with doubt of attraction

This type of gaze has been classified as�haram�(forbidden).[28]

3.1.3. A gaze accompanied with strong possibility or certainty of attraction

This gaze is also been forbidden, just as the one before it.[29]

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2013 20:56

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And we have Sister Yasmin without Niqab sharing light hearted jokes with men so everyone can make up their own minds.

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 4th June 2013 18:03
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Yasmin Mogahed hahahaha, Love her chuckles and flirting. What a joke. Just another Feminazi figure hiding under Islam's burka.
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 4th June 2013 18:33
Please maintain respect for each other and Ulamaa (if topic is about a scholar) by avoiding accusations and slanderous comments. Also remember that in order for criticism to be constructive, it must be channeled in the right direction. If there is any doubt in a matter, it is better to ask, clarify or to remain silent rather than to speak ill of another person.
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 16th June 2016 11:21
Has there been any updates on this topic since it was started brothers.....I was asked by a well known institute to invite this sister for a talk.....but after digging and researching I don't think it would be best......inshaaAllaah

As this thread is old has there been any further responses by the respected ulema regarding the people in question.

May Allaah guide us all to the straight path Aameen
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