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#151 [Permalink] Posted on 19th February 2018 09:42
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This still leaves me out with one more nagging doubt - should it not have been managed in a way a so as to leave Pir Sahab with a face saving and career saving narrow option for a future way out? [/quote]
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The evidence detailing the issues surrounding the character and behaviour of Peer Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi is overwhelming and he has never denied it when confronted.

Some people are fortunate to be given warnings - Can you imagine if there were video evidences loaded up on YouTube/Facebook/Twitter/Snapchat and so on!

These days, everyone is ready with their cameras. One should be grateful that this hasn't been the case yet.

If confronted and changes were made, non of this would of happened.
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#152 [Permalink] Posted on 19th February 2018 09:56

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One nagging doubt in my mind was whether I have trashed Pir Zulfiqar Sahab too quickly or even eagerly?

Tried by multiple people over several years.

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#153 [Permalink] Posted on 19th February 2018 16:33
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Not the first case were face saving methods are presented but the individual is unwilling to take it and give up the fame and its trappings...!

The moral failing is maybe ours in the sense that we follow people on the basis of fame, and stories and myths that are spread concerning them...! The same problem seems to exist amongst the younger Ulemah they will know every religious star and celebrity on youtube.

But eminent Scholars people of Taqwa that are not on youtube or Social media are completley unkown to them..!

These are times of glitz and glamour, and style over substance.

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#154 [Permalink] Posted on 19th February 2018 18:58
Many side questions come to mind :

1) Do anybody know who the ladies complaining about Shaikh db are ? Is it verified that their complaints are genuine ? Can they be trusted according to the sharia rules for testimony? Is there any possibility of some kind of conspiracy against the Shaikh. I am assuming the fatwa is about the Shaikh

2) If yes,then the more troubling question arise about the authenticity and efficiency of this whole system of tasawwuf in present era.A man is trained in a khanaqahi silsila which is genuine and well respected,with an authentic Shaikh. He receives all the required training to the satisfaction of his teacher,even granted permission to teach others (a sign of FULL confidence in his personal conduct as well as his abilities to teach others).He does the same for decades.Due to his great organisational skills he spread the silsila far and wide,gets recognition,respect and a huge following not only amongst common people but amongst Uluma.The weakness(es) in his conduct remains undetected (or ignored),till one day every one becomes enlightened about all the follies in his conduct. How come ? Why now,why not a decade ago ? If true,some thing is very very wrong in this whole system. In that case,we should question not only him but this entire system of what we call “peeri-mureedi”. Are we ready to do that ?

3) Not only him,we may even want to extend our doubts to Pir Gulam Habib ra
( God forbid).Was he not competent enough to know whom to grant permission to teach and play with the lives (and more seriously with Iman of others) ?..and so on,the chain continues till Mujaddid Alfe Thani ra..and onwards. It is serious stuff.Many like me would be hesitant to do that...

4) If a university grants a PhD degree to a scholar,whom we find later to be no good in his subject.One day,we come to know he did not know even the basics of the subjects in which he was supposed to be a specialist,what will we think of such a university ? Fake,may be ?...and let us assume such a scholar was giving lectures on his subject all over the world,and all the other scholars were not only accepting him but appreciating him,shall we still hold all those scholars in good esteem after he is proved ignorant ?

5),OK,agreed,you may say there is difference between academics and practice. The above example may apply to a scholar but not a Sufi who is supposed to be good at practice,even if not so good in bookish knowledge,then how such a person managed to influence so many people in a positive way ? Changed the lives of so many for good ? Granted, that bad people too have influenced thousands in a negative way in history,say Hitler or the likes..but a ‘bad’ person spreading all ‘good’ wherever he goes must be rare if not impossible..

6) Then,possibly,he was ‘good’ in some aspects of his life and ‘bad’ in other aspects.That is possible. That happens. Most of us are like that,angels at times and not so pious at other times. May be some necessary corrective measures were needed,may be such measures were even tried but not accepted.In that case,we will take it as a sign of arrogance,pride,very high self esteem considering one,s self above mistakes and hence corrective measures.Such a behaviour is anti-thesis of tasawwuf.So we come back to our initial query,how did he get “ejaza” to play with the lives of so many Muslims from mashaikh and scholars ? You think the system is working fine for us ? or else “we” are making some mistake about Pir sahib and the system ?°
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#155 [Permalink] Posted on 19th February 2018 20:44
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I'm not the one to take sides of anyone, but the way you've broken it down and to whom and how ijazah is granted is giving the notion of ilm-ul ghaib!

If it is all to do with trust then why will the uncle of the prophet (saw) remain in hell fire?

Why are there many Hadith about Ulama who will be flung in to hell? All we need to do is read the Hadith on intention, ample examples of piety gone down the drain!

Khair, we hope and pray for the best InshaAllah. If he is innocent, then Allah WILL clear his name.

Let's not forget how Allah cleared the name of our mother :)
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#156 [Permalink] Posted on 19th February 2018 21:24
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Shaykh Naeemullah Farooqui(DB) a Khilaafah of Pir Ghulam Habib رحمة الله عليه answers your question in Bayaan number 7 of the following link....
www.khanqah-e-naqshband.com/Bayanaat/Majaalis.html

In Short a person is given Khilaffat because they are considered competent at the time....But they still remain under the attacks of their Nafs and Shaytaan and may slip .... Khilafat is not a lifetime Warranty, indvidual needs to be very vigilant after they receive Khilafat.

And those making Bayaah should not follow someone blindly just because they received Khilafat from a Great Shaykh, but need to be cautious as well.
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#157 [Permalink] Posted on 19th February 2018 21:42
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before i begin i confess iv not read this thread iv only seen last few posts so i may have wrong end of the stick but it seems like shaykh has been accussed of things not befitting a shaykh.

purpose of my post is many of you guys mocked and threw insults my way when i used to say we have too much hazrat worshipping and bias towards our 'scholars'. now you see the dangers of it. without reading this thread i could bet my bottom dollar there is 1 side who will not accept any of the allegations ( if any) and another group who once saw shaykh as best thing since sliced bread but now are in awkward position of doing a full U turn.

so let this be a lesson to us ALL. no one except rasoolullah (saw) and amibiya (as) are free from faults. even the greatests sahabah make mistakes.

never emulate the living but those who have passed away and died on siraatul mustaqeem. no one knows how our ending will be. someone could be like bustami رضي الله عنه , shibli رضي الله عنه baghdadi رضي الله عنه qadir jilani رضي الله عنه but before death they fall from grace. similarly one coule be lowest of the low but Allah pulls them towards him and they achieve waliyat and become sideeq. Allah give us all husnul khatimah and safe us all from the fitnah of hazrat worshipping and celebrity shaykh culture.

ps reason iv not read this thread is i dont know anythin about him and tbh he is one the few i considetree to b a celeb shaykh. i tend to stay away from any1 with a cult following also i dont see benefit of me knowing what he has or hasnt done. unless this thread is mostly his mureeds discussing i dnt see why it should be a public discussions unless intention was to warn and advice anyone who was considering giving him bayah
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#158 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2018 05:04
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Oh NO,may Allah SWT save me from such concepts..

I was only pointing towards the training side of it..and if true,can such training be trusted any more ? I am keeping all mystic concepts out of it. I am no admirer of such concepts anyway.

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#159 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2018 10:16

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For an intelligent educated man you do miss simple things.

  1. Khilafa is given AT A POINT IN TIME and the Shaykh doesn't have knowledge of the future.
  2. Hidayah is not a permanent gift from Allah Ta'ala otherwise there would be no point in making Dua to remain upon Hidayah

Both points put together mean that a person can be staunchly upon the Sunnah at a given time (when given Khilafah is given) and then deviate from it (in the future).

A student can be top of the class and then enter a professional field and make a catastrophic error.

Unless you believe that Sufees are prophets and divinely protected which you may do.

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#160 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2018 11:42

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Brother Mooshtachu, I did not know earlier that this forum is governed and dominated by biased people from anti group of Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB who are using all their means to defame him.

For your kind attention your information is incorrect, biased (one-sided) and out dated. Alhamdolillah I am in contact with many khulafaas and mureedens of various other khulafas of Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB. They are mashallah busy in their work of Deen and tazkiya as instructed by their honorable Shaykh. For your info, Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB’s khulafas are more than 250 now alhamdolillah and you are invited to see more in upcoming ijtimah to be held in Jhang between 9-11 March 2018 (www.facebook.com/hazratG/photos/a.338724122882702.80688.3...). If some how you miss this ijtimah then you may attend Miskeen pur sharif Ijtimah (24-25 March 2018) where Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB will attend with all top naqshbandi mashaikh including Hazrat Jee Peer Syed Muhammad Shah Qureshi Naqshbandi DB, Hazrat Peer Nasiruddin Khakawani DB, Hazrat Maulana Mufti Muhammad Hassan Sahab DB.  You are also invited to attend Peghaam-e-Islam Youth Convention where Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB along with his Khalifa Maulana Fazal-ur-Rahman DB (President of the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam Pakistan) and many prominent Ulama, muftiyaan and mashaikh will deliver their speech inshallah on 28th February 2018 (www.facebook.com/ShaykhZulfiqarAhmad/photos/a.81572019510...)

You said that my assertion that only few khulafa left is false. To justify that you give the foremost example of the closest khadim of Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB who spent the most time with him and travelled everywhere with him, Dr Muhsin. You said that he has separated!

Reply: Well it was also news for me. Therefore I picked my phone and called one of my friends in Jhang, Pakistan. My friend first laughed and said why you are wasting time with people who are blind followers of Hazrat Gee anti group! Then he said that Dr. Muhsin is currently nowhere but with Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB. He is doing khidmaat as usual mashallah with all love and affection to his Shaykh DB. So like all other false allegation on Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB on this forum, this too is also confirmed false.

Also let me correct that your information that Sh Azhar is his son in law is wrong. Correct information is that Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB has only one daughter who is not a wife of Sh. Azhar.

You said: If the people who peer has criticized in his magazine decide to release the proof, I assure you he will be annihilated.

Reply: For your information I already know about that bundle of so-called proofs which includes recordings, screenshots, etc. That bundle was shared by anti-group of Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB about 2 years ago with all khulafas and many mureedeen of Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB. That bundle of so-called proofs has been shown to muftiaan-e-Karam in various Darul Iftas around the globe including Mufti Taqi Usmani Sahab DB to get a fatwa. I was in the loop when that bundle arrived at Ashraful Madaris, Karachi (to Hakim Mazhar Sahab DB Son of Hazrat Walla Hakim Akhtar Sahab RA). To investigate the issue one of the Khalifa of Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB (who is also a khalifa of Hazrat Walla Hakim Akhtar Sahab RA) was called upon. That khalifa DB explained them the correct story. After that Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB was invited to deliver a talk at Ashraful Madaris, Karachi, which I attended personally alhamdolillah.

To cut the story short the anti-group of Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB has used all the means to get a fatwa against him. To their shame they did not get it and they will never get it inshallah. Out of their frustration they themselves tempered the fatwa of darul ulum Karachi and sinfully put the name of Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB. Same fabricated fatwa is the topic of this forum and some other websites.

Since the allegations on Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB are not evident on shariah basis therefore if someone persists to continue posting those allegations he is the victim of major sin of Bohtan which is much bigger than back biting (ghebaat). Allah SWT says in Quraan:

يَا أيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا اجْتَنِبُوا كَثِيرًا مِّنَ الظَّنِّ إِنَّ بَعْضَ الظَّنِّ إِثْمٌ وَلَآ تَجَسَّسُوا وَلَآ يَغْتَب بَّعْضُكُم بَعْضًا أيُحِبُّ أحَدُكُمْ أن يَأكُلَ لَحْمَ أخِيهِ مَيْتًا فَكَرِهْتُمُوهُ وَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ تَوَّابٌ رَّحِيمٌ

“…..And spy not neither backbite one another. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? You would hate it (so hate backbiting). And fear Allah, verily, Allah is the one who accepts repentance, Most Merciful” (Al-Hujuraat: 12).

 

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“Wa la tajassasu” (and spy  not )…

There are two kinds of spying; Tajassus and Tahassus

Tajassus :the act of following the ‘awrat (secret affairs of an individual). Physically checking what they are doing, asking around. 

Tahasuss: sending someone else to get information regarding someones private affairs, then you use the info they reported back.

***In Islam we are advised not to seek too much interest into the private affairs of anyone. Whoever is busy with themselves and their own faults Allah subhanahu wa ta’ala will suffice them and protect them from the eyes of others.

The messenger alayhis salam says;

“Man tatabba’a ‘awrata Mu’minin, tataba’allahu ‘Awratuh”

“Whoever follows/exposes the secret affairs of a believer, Allah will follow his secret affairs” (ie. Allah will cause those who will expose him/her just as they have done to others).

Ibn ‘Asaakir’ (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

“And know my brother – may Allaah guide me and you to seek His pleasure and make me and you from among those who fear Him as He should be feared – that the flesh of the scholar is poisonous (إِن لُحُوم الْعلمَاء رَحْمَة اللَّه عَلَيْهِم مَسْمُومَة). And the custom of Allaah in removing the screens from those who seek to belittle them is well-known. This is because attacking them in matters that they are free from is truly a tremendous matter.

Surrounding their reputation with lies and fabrications is infertile grounds, and differing with those whom Allaah has chosen amongst them to disperse the knowledge is a dishonorable characteristic.”

He further said:

من أطلق لِسَانه فِي الْعلمَاء بالثلب بلاه اللَّه عَزَّ وَجَلَّ قبل مَوته بِمَوْت الْقلب

“Whoever speaks ill of the (righteous) scholars, Allaah will give death to that person’s heart before He will give death to that person.”

[Source: Tabyeen Kadhib al-Muftaree, p. 425]

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Your Buhtaan of Hurmat-e-Musaherat

Your biggest mistake in your post is the allegation-over-allegation (Buhtan-e-Azeem) on Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB regarding his daughter in law. I am scaring & wondering what evidence you will put in front of Allah SWT on the Judgment day? This is very serious. You have to think many times to write such allegations. Since you are so informative (as it seems) don’t you know what happened in Dubai when many Ullamah discussed (rather interrogated) these issues with Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB and they all were satisfied? Don’t you know about the oath taken by Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB against the allegations? If your answer is NO then you know only one sided fabricated story. You need to consult any Khalifa (not “Ex” for sure) of Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB to know the other side of the story. For instance you may consult Shaykh Maulana Omar Babar Sahab DB (in UK) or Shaykh Maulana Dr. Moiz Hasan Sahab DB (in Karachi, now visiting USA). Both of them are khulafa of Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB. Both of them were the nearest students of Mufti Kamal, But when the conspiracy was initiated 2 years ago they preferred to remain with the truth i.e. none but Shaykh Maulana Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi DB.

I don’t know who is the winner or loser of this discussion. But one thing is for sure that Shaytaan has won! Shaytaan wanted to see this ummaat disunited and such forums are “religiously” helping Shaytaan to achieve his objective. Those who are strongly connected with their mashaikh they are not affected but such forums and false conspiracies only affect weekly-connected people and general audience. When this conspiracy was initiated 2 years ago, many weakly-connected brothers out of their disappointment shaved their beards, many opt ghair muqalidiyaat, so who wins? However this fitna was spread in a close circuit in last 2 years. Now for the first time the initiator of this forum has made it public with fake labelling of Darul Ullum’s fatwa. With my previous posts I tried to realize him that he has done a major mistake and requested him to remove this post but so far my efforts are futile. I just pray that Allah SWT give us understanding.

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#161 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2018 13:18

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Therefore I picked my phone and called one of my friends in Jhang, Pakistan. My friend first laughed and said why you are wasting time with people who are blind followers of Hazrat Gee anti group!

How does your friend know by listening to you on the phone that the person is a blind follower of Hazrat-Jee?

www.muftisays.com/forums/27-sharing-portal/11872-point-in...

You want us to consider new information and change our mind, how come your friend is labelling Muslims without knowing to be blind follower of Hazrat-Jee?

Take this Uncle-Aunty tittle-tattle to your SilSila

Summary of the long post:

Just to save you all time...

  1. All Ex-Khaleefas are Shaytaans
  2. All current Khaleefas are Truthful

Why?

Because we say so...

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#162 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2018 17:14
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To cut a long story short does the Shaykh meet female mureeds one to one in Solitude and without Pardah?
And perform Tawajjuh on them?

Yes or No....?

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#163 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd February 2018 03:23
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I had been his mureedah for four years and know he does meet in seclusion without an additional purdah (and he stares in their eyes SHAMELESSLY) while the women are in niqab. Since I was not that much higher up in ranks, I don't know for sure but have heard that he may also have asked some of them to take their niqab off. I have seen with my eyes messages like DON'T WORRY XYZ WE LOVE YOU sent by Peer Sahab for one of his mureedahs.

Once A Baji told us that Peer Sahab told her that he has been praying for this thing to happen for many years(20 maybe—don’t remember exactly) and now he is on that station of spirituality where to him there is no difference between a wall and a woman which is why he doesn’t need a curtain/extra purdah while meeting women.

And once a Khalifah said that when Peer Sahab sees the level of high spirituality in someone that person is allowed to look at even the face of na mahram women because of the ijazat he got from his Shaykh.

I guess these incidents were kept much under wraps so most of the female mureedas don't know about it let alone the male mureeds-- Talib-e-Deen would not have first hand knowledge of it.

I would also like to add that once while I was in Jhang at Peer Sahab's place I observed grave breach of purdah by the so called "Khidmat Jamaat". The women working on the food were in no purdah at all when a man appeared in imama and jubba and he was talking to them while looking at them and some girls were even flirting with him.

Another thing about one of his ex-khulafa who has now separated: he would meet (most of--not all) the female mureedas from behind a curtain but even he used to flirt with the younger girls (first hand experience) which is so weird and creepy. Anyhow, he is now separated from Peer sahab and has been able to retain almost all of his followers and the one senior students' couple (the lady was this ex-khalifas most favorite student and the man was a fellow-ex-khalifa) that totally disassociated themselves from him was made the object of a lot of mudslinging among his mureeds even hough those students had parted on a friendly-note... This Khalifah has also sent loving messages to many female mureedahs that i personally know of.

NOTE: flirt: playful teasing
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#164 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd February 2018 09:57
[QUOTEamat-ullah]I had been his mureedah for four years and know he does meet in seclusion without an additional purdah (and he stares in their eyes SHAMELESSLY) while the women are in niqab. Since I was not that much higher up in ranks, I don't know for sure but have heard that he may also have asked some of them to take their niqab off.

I guess these incidents were kept much under wraps so most of the female mureedas don't know about it let alone the male mureeds-- Talib-e-Deen would not have first hand knowledge of it.

I would also like to add that once while I was in Jhang at Peer Sahab's place I observed grave breach of purdah by the so called "Khidmat Jamaat". The women working on the food were in no purdah at all when a man appeared in imama and jubba and he was talking to them while looking at them and some girls were even flirting with him.

Another thing about one of his ex-khulafa who has now separated: he would meet (most of--not all) the female mureedas from behind a curtain but even he used to flirt with the younger girls (first hand experience) which is so weird and creepy. Anyhow, he is now separated from Peer sahab and has been able to retain almost all of his followers and the one senior students' couple (the lady was this ex-khalifas most favorite student and the man was a fellow-ex-khalifa) that totally disassociated themselves from him was made the object of a lot of mudslinging among his mureeds even hough those students had parted on a friendly-note...

NOTE: flirt: playful teasing[/quote]





Just to add that other brothers have contacted me personally since the publication of this article on behalf of their women folk that this DID HAPPEN and I am using the term “brothers (plural)”.

When Peer Zulfiqar and Khulafa were originally confronted many years about these matters they routinely dismissed regular Ulama as those who have no experience in the professional world. They still do this and say that Fatwaas of “Maulvees” who are graduates of Darul-uloom are not reliable/applicable as they don’t understand the reality of modern life.

There is a reason why this SO MANY WOMEN are in this Silsila because it has touted itself to be professional, educated etc.

All Senior Khulafa (worldwide) know about this, they have been shown the evidence and it is irrefutable. They are choosing to ignore these matters. The meeting in private, flirting, sending WhatsApp messages are real and you will find many Sisters who will testify to these matters.

www.central-mosque.com/index.php/Civil/zulfiqar.html


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#165 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd February 2018 11:52
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Looking at it in Business Terms they noticed a gap in the market and went for it...... One of the unique things about this silsilah is a focus on Female "education" Khilafaahs have been encouraged to run female academys or open female boarding School Madrassah in Pakistan.

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