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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd June 2014 17:16

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I just remain tight lipped, lower my gaze and remember there's an angel who's observing me really closely. They usually digest the hint you're giving off.

Plus, always go in Islamic attire, it helps! :D

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 5th June 2014 03:40

Who gave a dislike to the OP? Sorry but It's emotional immaturity to take offence at him because he pointed out something he felt wrong.

When it comes to gender interaction then no any flirting happens here. In this regard this is one of the best forums.

As for ''useless conversations'' I don't blame the site or Admins. We, the members, are responsible. May Allah reward them for their work.

People see things differently, what maybe useless for one may not be useless for others. That's why sometimes I dislike the posts sometimes ignore, thinking that their intention is not wrong, they're replying without having any bad thoughts, most of times they do this unintentionally.

However I hope any sensible person can realize that replying with "Respected Sister" or "Respected Brother" is more respectable than "Oh dear".

I never reported any posts because I don't know the forum's policy.

So here're a few questions for mods to know when we're allowed to report the post.

1. Is joking allowed between the members of opposite gender?
2. Haha, :), :P, LOL xD Ahhhh :o etc. allowed?
3. Useless comments & pics e.g. some posts in this thread. allowed?

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 5th June 2014 05:48

Insha'Allah, I'll now ask Mufti Ebrahim Desai, on this issue, because a fatwa is more reliable than, us laypersons discussing right and wrong.

and only Allah knows best.

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 5th June 2014 07:26

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and I apologize, I don't mean to include Maulana Yasin or any other member who may be in process of becoming a scholar or is a scholar.

Wassalam.

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 5th June 2014 07:27

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*as calling laypersons

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 5th June 2014 08:30

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Agree somewhat sister. Some stuff can be considered useless. However most of the times it is in context of the post/thread and sometimes over the top.

In the link given above, the sister made a comment and the response was only really to prove not to make promises that won't be able to be fulfilled. Other images were on topic. But, I'm not saying you are wrong here, could've been handled better.

Also, it wasn't exactly haram either.

Many Ulama consider internet as haraam, many consider forums as gheebah. For those who follow those opinions can easily stay away from it and abide by the ruling.

Many find Islamic sites very beneficial and only visit them. For example, yesterday (in fact most of the time) I spent 99% of my online time only on Islamic sites.

Posts can be reported if you read something inappropriate, haram, off topic and so on. Admins and authorizers will get a notification to check up and shall deal with it according to the best of their understanding and according to the rules.

With regards to the smiley, Maulana said this :) is okay to show that your response isn't to be taken negatively or harshly. This one in particular :P is not liked.

Comments such as "oh dear" isn't haram, it must've been in context to the conversation (and I have seen it) it is considered as an acknowledgement/response.

Brother ibn Ismail, Mufti AS Desai said forums are gheebah, you either follow that ruling or reject it. If Mufti Ebrahim Desai says the same thing or says that you should only participate in forums where there are only brothers, then may Allah make it easy for you to find one. We do have a dedicated sisters section where the sisters can post.

The thumbs down, no idea. But obviously someone doesn't agree fully or finds the post baseless and not backed up with evidence of breaking Sharia rules.

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 5th June 2014 09:07

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As-salam-u-'Alaykum, brother
masha'Allah, the site is wonderful and beneficial. My experience has been good overall. But as for the fatwa, I would really like to know the massala on it, to know the stance on it, I don't think there are differences there, isn't geebah a different issue than interactions with non-mahram?

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 5th June 2014 09:25

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Of course gheebah and interaction are totally two different things.

I would recommend you take a look at the rules too, and if you are asking the question to a mufti, then it is only fair to state the rules. The actions of members is looked at closely, but unfortunately, at times we cant keep up with everything so we rely on the members to abide by the rules and other members to report the post.

Sometimes I can be online the whole day and sometimes I'm not even anywhere near the internet for long periods.

Maulana Yasin has answered in the first page. I cant say more than that.

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 5th June 2014 09:26

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 5th June 2014 10:21

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Jazakallahu khairan.

I'm still not clear on one thing: Are we allowed to report when members of opposite gender joke?

Maybe you think I should have positive outlook about the thread. But look, people can choose to do what is the best, people could post hadith & some other serious stuff instead of behaving like children & cracking jokes that you'd be focusing more on enjoying the conversation rather than taking a lesson, which may lead to idle chit chat.

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 5th June 2014 10:32

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I've read that thread and this is what I mentioned earlier.

Although, there is no giggly nature that can felt in the thread, but discussing chocolates in my opinion with the opposite gender is not permitted. Would we engage such discussions with ghair-mehram women in real life or be happy if our womenfolk did the same? I've also seen people discuss their families and their well beings even to my understanding has to be avoided.

I'll start to report such incidents from here on in. May Allah reward the staff for trying their earnest to ensure the forum remains halal as possible.

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 5th June 2014 10:34

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Anything that break the rules can be reported. ^Abu mohammed's post above has a link to the rules and the rules thread is available in every category of the forum.

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 5th June 2014 10:36

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I had already sent the query, however my purpose is not to criticise on the forum or its admins, but to know the truth on the interactions taken place, pointed out by sister, and that which I have doubt on.

Wassalam.

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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 5th June 2014 11:00

Regarding cracking jokes or attaching pics, in my opinion there are two aspects:

1. Cracking a joke/attaching funny picture without quoting any particular post of the opposite gender and merely looking at the thread title or type of the discussion.

2. Quoting someone of opposite gender and cracking joke/attaching funny picture.

No. 2 is clearly unnecessary and worthy to to be reported. But what about no. 1? Is it frowned upon also?

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 5th June 2014 11:16

Erm maybe this is kinda off topic.

Anyways, i just remembered how we used to have millions, literally millions of these threads on SF, and someone brought to my notice that certain posts (including some of mine) makes people see pictures in their minds, or something like that. The thing is, he quoted posts that were totally NORMAL - nothing crazy or over the top. So i was thinking of leaving SF and never ever returning and then this angel of a mod (may Allah reward her) told me to just ignore it. She said people CHOOSE how they see things and that anything, absolutely ANYTHING, can be turned into a picture in the mind (if one allows it to). That's not the posters problem though.

All the same, i agree there's no limit to precaution and its always great to have reminders!

Jazakallahu khair.

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