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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2014 23:22

Salaams.

I'm always weary of this when speaking about others to other people. I do not want my good deeds to go waste.

There was a situation today at work where a brother kept teasing me by referring to me by an English name (he was somewhat abbreviating my real name). I told asked him politely to stop and he said he would.

Another brother was curious to what the conversation was about as it seemed a little intense to him. So, I told him what he was doing and that we've settled it now, but I know the brother responsible would not have appreciated me having said that without his consent.

I didn't say anything nasty about him, though.

Can this be regarded as backbiting?

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2014 23:34

See this thread on name calling www.muftisays.com/forums/14-peoples-say/6143-sticks--ston...

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 30th April 2014 08:09

This thread may also help Insha Allah.. www.muftisays.com/forums/14-peoples-say/8431-gheebah.html...

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 30th April 2014 12:35

Salaams to all the brothers.

I've read the thread. So, I guess even in thsi scenario it is unlawful?

What about the brother you're speaking with witnessed the event and you're just talking about it to let off some steam? You're repeating what said from the tongue and expressing how it makes you feel and criticising certain comments made by that brother responsible.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 30th April 2014 14:10

Plus, what about when you talk about the performance of a cricket player? So, you've watched a cricket match and are criticising the performance of Shahid Afridi who hits a 6 and then has his stumps castled the next ball. I've heard even Maulana criticising the performance of players and I know they would not like it.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 30th April 2014 14:12

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So commenting on the book of a Scholar and disagreeing with him would also be Haram in your opinion? For example I take an Urdu book of a well known Scholar and disagree with it in English when he has no knowledge or understanding of the language?

How about a Scholar who passed 5 centuries ago and someone in 2014 disagrees with him and refutes him?

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 30th April 2014 14:23

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I see your point, akhi. No, it's not haram as you're speaking the truth and not insulting him at the same time.

I just needed to clarify for my own peace of mind.

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 30th April 2014 14:28

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So Afridi has serious problems with his footwork and his back lift (very horizontal instead of pointing to First Slip) and his temperament (doesn't know how to build an inning). His technique against Short Pitch bowling is disgraceful and he doesn't know where his off stump is so why would that be Haram?

He relies on Power and Swing and if its in the Arc it goes and if it isn't its curtains! As he is getting older his hand/eye coordination is obviously deteriorating so even a blind man can see the issues but they were always there from day one!

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 30th April 2014 15:42

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Haha, I gotcha' brother.

So, the scenario above in my initial post, was I wrong?

What about when you're bad mouthing or insulting evil people from Islamic history like Abu Jahal and Pharoah.

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 30th April 2014 15:48

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I hadn't read your post first but now I have. What do you mean by "Brother"? Was this a Muslim?

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 30th April 2014 16:32

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Asalamualailum.

Yes, it was a Muslim.

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2014 09:47

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Yes this can be regarded as backbiting. You should seek his forgiveness.

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 5th May 2014 01:08

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Salaams.

Other brothers, seem to have different ideas, but I still seek refuge from Allah.

Allah knows best.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2014 12:40

Praise be to Allah.
�Gheebah is haram (impermissible) and emphatically so, because Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):

"...neither backbite one another. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother?"

[49:12].�

And it is proven from Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "When I was taken up into heaven, I was taken past some people who had nails of copper with which they were scratching their faces and chests. I said: Who are these, O Jibreel? He said: These are the ones who ate the flesh of the people and impugned their honour." [Imam Ahmad and Abu Dawood] The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) defined gheebah as saying about your brother that which he dislikes.�

It is permissible in a few cases which are indicated by shar'i (legal) evidence when there is a need for that, such as if someone consults you with regard to marriage or business partnership, or if someone complains to the ruler and asks him to put a stop to a person's wrongdoing. In that case there is nothing wrong with saying about him things that he dislikes for the purpose of serving an obvious interest. One of them compiled a list of the cases in which gheebah is permissible in two lines of verse in which he said:�

Criticism is not gheebah in six cases: complaining about mistreatment, identifying a person, warning about a person, highlighting evildoing, seeking a fatwa/verdict, and seeking help to remove an evil.�

But if there is no obvious interest to be served by mentioning him in a way that he dislikes, then it comes under the heading of gheebah which is haram.�

With regard to the question about the phrase "There is no gheebah (backbiting) in the case of a faasiq (evildoer)" and whether it is a hadeeth or not, Imam Ahmad said it is munkar (basically rejected). Al-Haakim, al-Daaraqutni and al-Khateeb said: it is false.�

But the fact that there is no gheebah in the case of a faasiq (an evildoer who openly commits sins) is indicated by the proven report which says that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) saw a funeral passing by, and those who were with him spoke ill of the deceased person, and he (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "It is due." Then another funeral passed by, and they spoke well of the deceased person, and the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "It is due." They asked him what he had meant by saying it is due, and he said: "The one of whom you spoke ill, Hell is his due, and the one of whom you spoke well, Paradise is his due. You are the witnesses of Allah on His earth." and he did not rebuke them for speaking ill of the deceased person of whose evildoing they were aware. This indicates that if a person commits evil openly, there is no gheebah in his case.�

And Allah is the source of strength. May Allah send blessings and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions. End quote.

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2014 15:55

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Shukriyah for this brother.

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