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#46 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2014 13:12
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Assalaamualikum,

Jazakallah for providing this list. Extremely useful and brought to light things I was ignorant of.

In terms of my concerns, they are obviously those that affect the MMR (procrine) jabs. I did a quick search for alternatives and I came across this link:

www.salafitalk.net/st/printthread.cfm?Forum=6&Topic=2046

It seems the vaccines manufactured by Priorix are free from Procrine (pork gelatin)

Admittedly the article is from 2003 so I did a little more searching and haven't really found anything conclusive (although the indications are positive).

I've contacted my GP and they use Priorix so I just wanted to find out if anyone has an absolute list for this particular manufacturer.

Daughter is having her 3 year jabs today so wanted to be sure before we went ahead.

Jazakallah,
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#47 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2014 13:38
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#48 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2014 19:57
The summary of product characteristics (SPC) suggests that porcine is not one of the pharmaceutical excipients. You can access the SPC by googling electronic medicines compendium, doing a search for the drug on that site and then look at section 6.1 (list of pharmaceutical excipients) in the SPC. If it did it would normally be listed in that section, for example fluenz nasal spray (flu vaccine) has porcine listed in that section. I would've posted links but can't as a guest.

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#49 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2014 20:01
And I'm sure that according to European medicine guidelines all the excipients for parenteral (i.e. injectable products) have to be listed in the SPC, so legally they couldn't miss it out, but not certain about this so I'll have to find out
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#50 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2014 20:20

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Jazakallahu Khayran Brother.

Much better explaination and answer so people can now check for themselves

  1. Visit electronic Medicines Compendium (eMC) site
  2. Type Fluenz" and click Search
    1. SPC, or SmPC, stands for Summary of Product Characteristics. The SPC is used by healthcare professionals, such as doctors, nurses and pharmacists, and explains how to use and prescribe a medicine.
    2. PIL stands for Patient Information Leaflet (known as Package Leaflet or PL) and is the leaflet that is included in the pack with a medicine
    3. Select SPC
  3. Section 6.1 List of excipients lists, "Sucrose, Dibasic potassium phosphate, Monobasic potassium phosphate, Gelatin (porcine, Type A), Arginine hydrochloride, Monosodium glutamate monohydrate, Water for injections"
  4. Now search for "Priorix" click Search and Select SPC
  5. Section 6.1 List of excipients lists, "Powder: Amino acids, Lactose (anhydrous), Mannitol, Sorbitol - - - Solvent: Water for injections"

Jzk

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#51 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2014 21:00
Just to confirm 'Where medicines are intended to be administered as an injection, are for topical use or for use in the eye, all excipients must be declared on the labelling (i.e. SPC).' European council directive 2001/83/EC. Also confirms this on the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (UK drug regulator) website.
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#52 [Permalink] Posted on 9th April 2014 11:26
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Jazakallah brothers to you and Guest.
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#53 [Permalink] Posted on 9th April 2014 12:25

The position of our dear beloved and respected brother brooklynyte4ever analysed with regards to vaccinations here and here

His Academically sound and Islamically robust reaction after making accusations that he is being insulted.

This is the reality of objections to vaccinations when scrutinised, there is no rhyme or reasons for objections just positions taken at random and Scholars quoted who just happen to agree with random positions. 

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#54 [Permalink] Posted on 9th April 2014 20:33
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Taking a guess here, are you from Indonesia?
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#55 [Permalink] Posted on 9th April 2014 21:29
Salamualaikum warahmattullah
Please read whether you may agree with the majlis or not. Jazakullah



New majlis vol 22 no. 06

Vaccine quackery and fraud
Pakistan ulema in cahoots with government

Some senior Ulama in Pakistan are fully supporting and promoting the government's brutal policy of enforced immunization of children. Having been assured by some members of the corrupt medical establishment of the hallucinated 'safety' and 'necessity' of vaccination, these Ulama have thrown caution to the winds, and have deemed it meritorious to throw in their lot with a vile kufr government in cahoots with the U.S.A. These Ulama have now become cogs in the diabolical U.S. immunization plot conspired to maim and destroy nations.
There exists an avalanche of evidence written and compiled by innumerable scientists and western medical experts which conclusively proves the massive fraud of vaccines, the damage and injury caused to human health by the haraam poisonous potions called vaccines. Thousands of pages of evi- dence are available, which confirm beyond any doubt the disastrous effects of these fraudulent satanic vaccines and the haraam policy of immunization which vile governments enforce brutally on the illiterate masses.
As far as the disaster of immunization is concerned, these Ulama are blissfully ignorant. They have miserably failed to proffer even an iota of Shar'i evidence for their baatil support of the haraam polio vaccination programme currently being cruelly enforced in Napakistan. These Ulama have failed to understand that it is haraam to introduce filth and disease into the body in anticipation of the satanic potion warding off future expected disease. Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said: "Allah has not put the cure of my Ummah in sub- stances which are haraam for them."
Vaccines consist of najaasat and poisons. Injecting such satanic potions into the body can never be permissible in terms of the Shariah of Allah Ta'ala. These Ulama have miserably failed to comprehend this simple fact which does not require profound brains and vast knowledge for comprehension.
The vaccination programme is a stunning colossal fraud. A current vaccine fraud of massive proportion is a $19 million fraud. The National Institute of Health in the U.S.A. contributed $19 million for a research programme, but they soon realized that "something was terribly wrong with the research". The findings of the health authorities state: "The investigation found that the Respondent falsified results in research to develop a vaccine against human immuno- deficiency virus by intentionally spiking samples of rabbit sera with antibodies to provide the desired results. The falsification made it appear that rabbits immunized with the vaccine induced antibodies capable of neutralizing a broad range of HIV-1 strains."
Massive research fraud schemes are perpetrated by the big pharmaceutical companies. It is a massive Mafia operation in which top government officials are involved. The poor Molvis in Pakistan have now allowed themselves to be hoodwinked and bamboozled to support the muck and poison programme of the kufr government of Napakistan.
The $19 million vaccine research fraud is the tip of the iceberg of vaccine industry fraud. Two scientists, Stephen Krahling and Joan Wlowchoski accused some scientists of spiking mumps vaccine with animal antibodies to deceive the world into believing that these poisonous vaccines are effective. It was the fraud that had allowed the peddling of the false claim of the mumps vaccine being 95% effective, "say the scientist whistle- blowers". "In reality, the fraudulent Merk mumps vaccine actually contributed to the spread of mumps across America", the scientists explained.
"The spread of mumps, of course, results in more people buying mumps vaccines. This is how scientific fraud can produce enormous profits for vaccine companies. In many cases, vaccines actually spread the disease they claim to prevent." This is precisely the cause of the polio epidemic in Napakistan.
"The fact that an AIDS vac cine research has now been caught taking bogus AIDS vaccine in precisely the same way Merck scientists say Merk faked their vaccine tests is yet another significant red flag that screams the obvious: The vaccine industry is riddled with scientific fraud.
In the vaccine industry, fraud is part of the corporate culture, and it's found in the fraudulent science, drug price fixing, widespread bribery of doctors, the faking of "scientific" evidence and the industry's payoffs to mainstream media in the form of advertising money." The following information should be salubrious for the bamboozled Ulama of Pakistani: "Most vaccines don't work. Flu shots don't prevent the flu. Mumps and measles vaccines actually cause mumps and measles. POLIO VACCINES CAUSE WIDESPREAD PARALYSIS AND POLIO-LIKE SYMPTOMS......... It is also a fact that former Merk scientist Dr.Maurine Hilleman openly admitted on tape that vaccines contained huge numbers of cancer-causing "stealth" viruses. ...........Just to make sure vaccines are as destructive as possible, the vaccine industry makes sure that nearly all vaccines are laced with neurotoxic chemicals........ When it comes to vaccines, it's all based on fraud. Logic and science are thrown out the window. Efficacy is utterly abandoned. Vaccines never need to prove they actually work. They are accepted as a matter of fact by the followers of the reductionist medical cult known as "western medicine".
When it comes to vaccines, the entire medical system has gone stark raving mad, quite possibly because they've vaccinated each other and are quite literally suffering from chronic mercury poisoning which damages the brain. The actions of this fake AIDS vaccine researcher aren't even un- usual: they're par for the course. This is how nearly all vaccines get made! It's the only way to make deadly, contaminated genetic cocktails appear to be effective when they really aren't. Take away the fraudulent research and the vaccine industry collapses overnight. If subjected to the scrutiny of rational science, vaccines would almost immediately be declared quackery." (NATURAL NEWS)
The Ulama in Pakistan have now also been entrapped by-the Mafia quacks whose agent is the Napakistani government. It is a massive haraam boodle fraud based on a massive medical fraud in which the health of millions of children is wrecked and ruined.
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#56 [Permalink] Posted on 9th April 2014 21:51

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So a South African Alim is now teaching Pakistani Ulamah about the reality in their own country?

Anyone who has just wasted 20 seconds of their life reading the advice to Pakistanees offered by a South African Alim should disregard because there are countless Deobandi Ulamah who have no problems with it, 2 key ones being:

  1. Shaykh (Mufti) Taqi Usmani (HA) backs vaccination (already admitted by Majlis here)
  2. Shaykh (Maulana) Samiul-Haq (HA) Darul-uloom Akota Kharak (Deoband of Pakistan) and affiliated to Taliban (of Pakistan and Afghanistan) here is a signed copy

Even those whom the Taliban consult are not of this opinion!

 

Here is a detailed dissection of our dear beloved and respected Shaykh (Mufti) A.. Desai (HA) trying to advise 8+million Americans on which direction to pray!

  1. Pakistani Ulamah are in COHOTS!
  2. American Ulamah are STUPID about Qiblah
  3. South African Ulamah are friends of Shaytaan
  4. Indian Ulamah are masquerading as Fake Deobandees!

Says ONE ALIM from South Africa...

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#57 [Permalink] Posted on 10th April 2014 01:41
I do appreciate your constructive criticism my dear brother. I didn't expect you to agree with moulana desai saheb, but I'm glad that you at least read it.

Jazakullah khayran :)
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#58 [Permalink] Posted on 10th April 2014 09:54

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Asslamo Allaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh,

The hypocrisy of someone sitting in New York and advising people in Pakistan on Health care knows no bounds! It doesn’t matter what you believe it (which is STUPID and BASELESS) you know that if you child (may Allah (SWT) forbid) would get into an accident within minutes an ambulance would Wisk your beloved away while providing excellent medical care on the way and placing him or her in the hands of one of the most professionally trained medical staff in the world armed with latest technologies.

All your futile arguments about vaccinations, Obamacare, chemicals will be instantly reduced into 2 wishes:

  1. Sincere dua to Allah (SWT) to save your child
  2. Hoping that the Doctors bring their best to save your child

In rural areas of India/Pakistan this is NOT an option. I have seen villages filled with disabled children with bent limbs (way before vaccination or Monsanto ever came to our lands) and so does Shaykh (Mufti) Taqi Usmani (HA) because he is older and other Ulamah.

Girls with faces so disfigured by chickenpox and other (perfectly curable infections) that they have no hope of getting better.

People spitting blood in TB and infecting neighbourhoods, I had my classmates spit blood and then DIE when I was a little boy!

Cholera wiping neighbourhoods and this is commonly written in books of Akabir of Deoband (and generation before colonisation) and duas are mentioned in page after page after page.

DESPITE WHAT YOU READ ABOUT THIRD WORLD ON INTERNETNONE OF THIS HAPPENS ON SUCH A MASSIVE SCALE AFTER VACCINATIONS. I NO LONGER SEE HORDES OF CHILDREN COMING TO SCHOOL ON CRUTCHES WITH BENT LIMBS!

Disease is a fact of life and people always got sick throughout the history of mankind. 200 years ago people readily died from catching Streptococcal infections which today we can easily cure.

200 years ago people at sea lost teeth and died due to simple Vitamin deficiencies which we can cure with supplements.

200 years ago it was common for women to lose babies and in fact ask any Indian/Pakistani woman (back home) over 70-80 as to how many children she lost and hear the stories; look at today's women and Fetal viability rates.

Here is a list of 9 mostly DEADLY DISEASES in George Washington era:

  1. Diptheria
  2. Tuberculosis
  3. Smallpox
  4. Dysentery
  5. Malaria
  6. Quinsy
  7. Carbuncle
  8. Pneumonia
  9. Epiglottitis

Guess what? Despite YOUR NON-NENSE all of these are eradicated (partially or completely), curable (partially or completely) and NO LONGER strike in large numbers.

If you read the books in Persian history (from India) Pre-Deobandi; they were equally affected by some of these and called them "Punishments of Allah (SWT)" and asked people to be treated and above all repent and make Taubah!

Today's top 5 killers are:

  1. Ischaemic heart disease
  2. Cerebrovascular disease
  3. Lower respiratory infections
  4. Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
  5. HIV/AIDS

All of these are treated to a large extentand I guess some other deadly diseases will come along in 200 years this list will change. In fact even when Sayyidina Isa (AS) descends on Earth situation will be a LOT BETTER (much better then ever) but disease will still EXIST! People will STILL get sick!

The problem with people like you is that you are truly HYPROCRITES (English sense and not Islamic):

  1. You want Medical science to declare all ingredients but there are hundreds of herbal, homeopathic, Chinese medicines which don't declare ingredients
  2. You believe that Medicines have side-effects but you deliberately and conveniently IGNORE the side-effects of natural remedies
  3. You want independent research into medical treatments but IGNORE your own treatments e.g. you do cupping so PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS...Lets get a group of independent researches come to your house in New York and independently verify the efficacy of your claims on cupping!
  4. A Doctor has spent 8+ years learning to cure and HE IS STUPID but a High School dropout who knows cupping knows the intricacies of human body much better!

I have challenged you previously and I say it again. Let’s drop medicine, doctors, hospitals and everything else and let YOU recommend a herbal healer and lets agree to him (or her) being independently tested to determine efficacy of their treatment.

In other words, let’s put them to the same scrutiny which you would like on Pharmaceuticals! Same standards, nothing more; nothing less.

But since you are SHAMLESS INDIVIDUAL with no regard or care for human life or children all I will get is a smile because you neither have answers nor responses, just arrogance!

At the heart of your Non-Nense is hyprocrisy. Both YOU and this GERMAN NURSE SISTER will write blogs but the minute your child (may Allah (SWT) forbid)) is run by a Car you will have no qualms in dialling 911 and having the best Doctors operate on him to save his or her life! All of a sudden your blogging will cease!

I would like both of you to deny that YOU NEVER USE ANY MEDICAL SERVICE even if it means your own child DYING and justify your actions in the light of Islam.

 

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#59 [Permalink] Posted on 10th April 2014 12:01
As-Salaamu 'Alaykum maulana Muadh

If you wanted to call him a "shameless individual" and "hypocrite" you shouldn't have started your post with salaam. When you say salaam to your brother you are saying that he is safe from your hands and tongue. The brother has been speaking to you kindly, while you on the other hand just seem to want to destroy him in an argument so you can be the "winner". Its clear he wants you to leave him alone. Just live and let live man.

Learn to talk in a mature manner rather than go crazy with colors and capital letters. To flip out in an argument is a sign of hypocrisy.

Wassalaam.
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#60 [Permalink] Posted on 10th April 2014 12:04
That above was my sincere thoughts and advice. I still look up to you because of your knowledge of the deen, masha'Allah.
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