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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 4th January 2014 13:47
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''wallazina ma'ahu Ashidda'u alalkuffari''

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''wa karraha ilaikumul kufra wal fusooqa wal is'yan''
are the qualities of hazrat Sahaba Ikram rz.a

To hate or to love for the sake of Allah swt is always praiseworthy but venting our anger ineptly isnt fair, As it may ensue infra dignity repercussions from them too, so instead of passing any comments or reactions, I think, we must detach ourselves immediately from such forums or company or companionship.
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 4th January 2014 14:06
Jazakallah abu mohammed. I just read this portion:

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And I was also feeling the urge to kill them. I truly wish I could kill them.

While I stick by the reasons of anger. The above quote can be taken well out of context by the enemies of Islam so I agree with everyone. This site was already a target of Channel 4 in UK and when they found nothing, they attacked a few answers given on the Q&A about befriending Kuffar. You can read our response to that here www.muftisays.com/dispatches-channel4-lies-and-deception.php and you'll see why phrases like this are not good.

I apologise for missing that.
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 4th January 2014 15:55
sis Aisha,


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In fact I had an atehist friend and all my classmates would make fun of

islam, even though there were muslims. My atheist friend always made fun.

You know the answer I gave him?[/quote]



How could you befriend with a brother since you yourself a sister? Isn't it haram?


[quote] My atheist friend always made fun.

You know the answer I gave him? I told him, you need to respect other

religions. If they respect yours, you have to respect them. Obviously my friend

didn't care
, but I wasn't mad at him


Isn't it haram to make friends with those kuffr who make fun of Islam?
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 4th January 2014 15:58
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Sister this was long time ago. Also let me add little more. i was not born in a practising family and i didnt have much awareness of Deen until later. in the society i grow, it was okay to do these. So sister it is wrong to think that everyone comes from a good islamic societies. My aim was to point out i knewed these kind of people and these people teached me a valuable life lesson i cant forget. This is what i was trying to point out
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2014 08:21
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Sister this was long time ago. Also let me add little more. i was not born in a practising family and i didnt have much awareness of Deen until later. in the society i grow, it was okay to do these. So sister it is wrong to think that everyone comes from a good islamic societies.[/quote]


Good that Allah has guided you. Alhamdulillah.


[quote] My aim was to point out i knew these kind of people and these people teached me a valuable life lesson i cant forget. This is what i was trying to point out



�sorry sis these kuffar can't teach me anything.�
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2014 09:15
For the safety of above user before she gets flagged as a potential suspect and the safety of other members , can the mods kindly edit/remove above comments, whatever your decision can this comment be removed as well in due process, hope you understand.

جزاك الله خيرا
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2014 09:33
I've already edit my first comment after getting a notification from sister Admin. What's wrong in above comment?

somewhere else I also wrote lots of such sentences out of emotions. I wonder if I did anything wrong. We Muslims can't do anything only kuffar will do. Why? I'm getting mad at that.
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2014 10:05
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My dear canim sister

Trust me, in one thing, everyone can teach us many valuable life lesson even the kuffar. The lesson kuffar gives is, dont look down on anyone, silence and the most importantly remember how lucky we are that we are not in their state. Even seeing them, makes us remember the blessing Allah gaved us. Try to think like this my canim sister. Sister so sorry if im sounding harsh but what you are doing is looking down on them. İ maybe saying the same thing over and over again like a broken record but it is not our place to judge people. They need our duas. Even people who make fun of İslam. Did Rasullah (sallallahu alayhi wa sallem) look down on his people, while his people were mocking İslam? He (sallallahu alayhi wa sallem) prayed for them and after that you know what happened? All of his people become Muslims. My canim sister even if they mock and say horrible terrible things, we need to make dua for them and also thank Allah Ta'ala that He didnt put us in their state.
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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2014 11:38

sis Aisha, am I looking down upon kuffar? May Allah forgive me if It's so but I don't have problem with all kuffar but only with those who are really the enemies of our Islam and its people. So how can I learn anything from them? Sorry but doesn't make sense to me.


I don't want to argue sis, forgive me if it seems so, I hope Allah has given you a forgiving heart.
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2014 12:06
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Dear canim sister

i dont want to argue about this topic as well. İf i said anything hurtfull forgive me. İ was just giving advice.its your choice if you agree with me or not. You havent done anything wrong my dear canim sister. i understand you. you are saying whats true for you. İ mean i was like this to before but over time, i realized that my anger wouldnt change them in any way. İnstead its waste of my time and energy. Rather than focusing on them, i could have focused on my ibadaah. Sister plz dont think that i dont understand you. i really do. You remined me of myself in the past. :)
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2014 12:17
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So how can I learn anything from them? Sorry but doesn't make sense to me.


We learn from our mistakes and we learn from their mistakes too.

They have taught us not to be like them, not to think like them, they are setting us an example of how not to be!

The least we can do is make dua for their guidance.

We have heard plenty about some of the worst people ever who eventually embraced Islam.

Take a look at the Dutch film maker, we started threads discussing his actions and the terrible mistakes they were making and now look,he embraced Islam. From the worst form of insults to Islam, we had pictures of him inside Masjid e Nabawi offering salaam and asking for forgiveness.

We can't see what's in the heart of people or why they will do later in life, we pray for them and us all.

There is no need for this discussion to continue any further. There have been plenty if examples already.
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2014 12:22
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2014 13:24
I don't deny these things. Of course Allah can change the hearts.

I'd pray for their guidance but can't help hating them but if my prayers get accepted (i.e Allah change their hearts) then I'd give up hating and start loving them for Allah's sake.

I agree kuffar's sites shouldn't be visited.

Now fear that the sentences I wrote about k*** kuffar on anti Islamic sites might bring any harm to me and my family?
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2014 14:46
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Sister you know what you should do:
1- Dua
2- Trust Allah
3- Move on
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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2014 16:06
I feel like home- these "Sunniforumic" arguments!
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