"abu mohammed" wrote:
"Muadh_Khan" wrote:
Asslamo Allaikum,
There is an old Qur'aan by one of the students of Shah Waliullah (RA) and it contains the right "AB-JAD" for the Surahs of the Qur'aan so if someone HAS TO get a Ta'weez get it checked.
There aren't many Ulama around who understand Persian and "AB-JAD" these days because its no longer taught in Darul-ulooms, so verification would be difficult so yes the easiest action is dispose dodgy looking stuff.
Still sounds dodgy. I cant seem to agree with numeralogy. Isnt that what the Jews acussed the Prophets of too.
Just like 786 doesnt mean anything in Islam.
Asslamo Allaikum,
It doesn't have anything to do with Islam. Its a representation of Persian and a system which was used back home for centuries.
If you look at Pakistani National Identity application form (Shanakhti Card form) even today it is called "Form Baa"
Baa in the AB-JAD system represents the number "2" and that's how they were taught to count before calculators.
Did you study Maths and read about logarithms? They were used before the advent of Calculators to do complex and long calculations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logarithm
If you read old books of Fiqh that’s how they calculated Salah times and Qiblah direction (because that was the Maths of their time), today we use “google” : - ) :- ) :- )
The official language of "Muslim India" was persian and it was used in paperwork and applications etc just like today they use "Urdu OR English" and Modern Maths so there is no need to use the "AB-JAD" method.
Pick up Islamic books of Ulama even 40 years ago and the Volumes are labelled:
Jild Awwal
Jild Du'im
Jild Su'im
BUT today they will be called:
Jild 1
Jild 2
Jild 3
i.e. Volume 1, Volume 2 & Volume 3 etc because no one is taught this stuff anymore...Muslims don't use "Persian" anymore
The Arab Ulama are unaware of this method because they never used "Persian"
OR another way to explain would be "Egyptian Heiroglyphs":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_hieroglyphs
So I can write "Muhammad" in this symbolic language or I can write something else, its just a bunch of symbols so the job is to decipher the symbols and enusre that correct words are used.
Its a lot safer these days not to use "AB-JAD" because:
- People are not taught this
- There is no need or it
And stick to Qur'aan & Sunnah in Arabic .