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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 21st June 2017 04:01
Assalaamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh.

Can someone, please help me find Mufti Taqi Usmani's fatwa (English) on digital photography, and television. The very one that Mufti Emraan Vawda refuted in his 92 page book.

Jazak'Allah.
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 21st June 2017 06:50
وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

It's not exactly a full-fledged fatwā. What Muftī Emraan Vawda replied to in his book was a short excerpt from Takmilah Fatḥ al-Mulhim, Muftī Taqi Usmani's completion of Fatḥ al-Mulhim bi-Sharḥ Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim by ʿAllāmah Shabbīr Aḥmad ʿUthmānī (رحمه الله).

Here is the original Arabic excerpt:



(Taken from this PDF , found on this page. Side note: This edition of Fatḥ al-Mulhim has problems, as discussed here, but they are not relevant to the current discussion.)

Translation:

Muftī Taqi Usmani wrote:

Television

As far as television and video go, there is no doubt in their usage being ḥarām from the perspective of the many evils that they incorporate, such as pornography, lewdness, the exposition of revealing and naked women as well as many other forms of sin. However, does the ruling of taṣwīr apply to them in the sense that, if the television or video is totally free from these evils, it will then be ḥarām to view the television or video on the basis of it being taṣwīr (image)? This weak servant has reservations on this question. The image that was ḥarām was that which was drawn or sketched permanently on some medium. This was the picture which the kuffār use to worship. As far as that image which is not permanent nor is it drawn or sketched onto some permanent medium, this more closely resembles a reflection than a picture. It is clear that the image of the television and video does not permanently exist on any medium during any of its stages except in the case of film. If it is an image of a living person in the form that it appears on the screen at the exact moment during which the person is standing in front of the camera the image does not permanently exist on either the camera or the screen. It is simply electric impulses that pass from the camera to the screen and the original form of the item appears thereon. It thereafter disappears. If the image is captured on a video cassette the image is not sketched or drawn on the cassette. Electric impulses are merely recorded which do not have any shape or form. When these electric impulses travel onto the screen this original natural form then appears on screen. This image on the screen does not exist permanently thereon. It appears and disappears. Therefore at no stage is the image permanently drawn or sketched on any medium. Based on this, to place this image (found on the television or video) on the same status as a permanent image will be difficult. May Allāh Taʿālā have mercy on that person who guides me to the correct view in this matter. And Allāh (Subḥānahu wa Taʿālā) knows best.


(Taken from pg. 9 of 92 of Muftī Emraan Vawda's book with a few stylistic changes.)
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 21st June 2017 09:44
Assalaamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh.

Jazak'Allah for sharing.

Did Mufti Taqi Usmani, or his brother ever reply to this?

According TheMajlis, if I'm not mistaken, Mufti Taqi Usmani also suggested that digital photography is not haram?
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 21st June 2017 10:20
According to the Majlis, forums are not allowed. So it would be better not to discuss Majlis issues on a forum, especially when it comes to valid differences of opinions.

You are either with us or you are with The Majlis :)
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 21st June 2017 19:14
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It was just a point of reference brother. They had claimed that Mufti Taqi Usmani had declared two points in his fatwa, that caused alarm among other 'Ulema. One was regarding television, or real time streaming, and photography itself.

Brother samah highlighted a refutation by Mufti Emraan Vawda only to one of those points, and that's regarding television.
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 21st June 2017 23:04
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Yes, according to Muftī Taqi Usmani Sahib, Muftī Rafi Usmani Sahib, and the Dār al-Iftāʾ of Dār al-ʿUlūm Karachi, digital photography is permissible as long as the contents are permissible.

Muftī Rafi Usmani talks about it here:

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He tells the reporters not to take any photos of people if they will be printed, indicating that the prohibition does not apply if the pictures/videos will only appear on TV, computer, or mobile phone screens since they do not fall under the ḥukm of sharʿī taṣwīr according to them. This view of theirs is quite well known.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd June 2017 00:02
Are we bound to follow the personal views of scholars?
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd June 2017 02:31
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Do any other Deobandi 'Ulema share their view?
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd June 2017 05:15
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Yes, there are many upright ʿulamāʾ on both sides.
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd June 2017 11:48

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The Fiqh, Qur’aan, Sunnah arguments of Majlis are riddled with errors. Let whoever wants to defend them come on the forum and have an open debate.

  1. No Insults
  2. No personal attacks.
  3. Just discussions about opinion of the Majlis and the wording they use.

Nobody with any serious knowledge, gives weight to their opinion. They respect Hazrat for his age, seniority, Taqwa, work ethics etc which is different to Academic standing.  Deobandees have problem distinguishing between many of the factors…Imam Ghazali (RA) is a great scholar but he has been questioned by Ulama in Hadeeth…Imam Muslim (RA) is a Master of Hadeeth but not a Faqih…Haji Imdadul Muhajir Makki (RA) is a giant in Tassawuff but not Muhadith or Faqih.

Hazrat (DB) is a great personality but some of his opinions are extreme, unwarranted and baseless. This is the opinion of oerhwelming majority of British and South African Ulama. They won’t say it because his influence is limited and he will tear into and eat the flesh of Scholars who disagree with him (no matter how politely).

Let one of the FANBOYS an FANGIRLS, report this post to them and let them issue a 4th Fatwa on me.

Laymen Deobandees believe that Ulama are relaxing their stance and comprising with the Baatil. They have grown up with a certain mind-set and their Manhaj is the opinion of their Akabir. In some issues that is valid, in some issues life has advanced and moved on and due to genuine reasons opinions have changed.

Differences in the application of Photography is an issue of Ijtehaad. You see Ulama give a Fatwa that photography is Haram and YET come to Britain to collect Chanda for their Madrasah.

  1. Getting photographs for your VISA for collecting Chanda is permissible
  2. Making youtube Videos to defend Islam is impermissible. 

The same "upright Ulama" who consider photography Haram travel around the world by getting VISAS for travel and deem it “necessary” thus indulge in Haram.

They don’t deem the need to defend Islam on youtube as “necessary”.

Visiting dying Aunty in Gujarat or flying to Texas to get Chanda or do Aitekaaf is necessary.

The point I am making is that actions of these “upright Ulama” tells you that the application of the matter (if not the issue itself) is based on Ijtehaad.

The reason we are in this place is because nobody has got the guts to ask these “upright Ulama” Hazrat what are your reasons for indulging in Haram by coming to London?

If you deem it necessary then why do you disagree with Maulana Tarqi Jameel’s presence on youtube when he deems it necessary.

When you question these “upright Ulama” they don’t respond to you but go into their little groups and backbite you (in your absence) because that’s all they are capable of doing.   Years of study and company of Ulama have taught them to backbite people and to dishonur Muslims. This is the behavior of "reformed ones" amongst us who can speak for 2 Hours and write eloquently on facebook and Twitter about morality and Sunnah.

You are an intelligent guy, use your mind.

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd June 2017 13:29
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Nice - Try to keep a forum clean and easy flowing and that's what you get in response!

Point is, why bring issues created by the Majlis to a bunch of deceptive internet mufti's who are using Haram forums according to the Majlis? What will you gain? A deceptive response? So why waste your time? If one is genuinely wanting to know, then fine, but don't let it turn into a fued.
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd June 2017 14:58
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I'm sorry brother, are you referring to me?
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd June 2017 15:02
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Respected brother, can you confirm which Darul Iftas, or 'Ulema who oppose Mufti Taqi Usmani's position?
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd June 2017 16:23
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Am I referring to you?

I quoted myself, so I'm referring to my own post and the reaction it got!

The main point is that we don't want the forum to turn into a playground with tit for tat discussions as always happens with issues coming from the Majlis. You can see what has happened already and your reaction to it. (as you may call it "bakwaas")
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd June 2017 16:32
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I see your point.
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