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2010

Wudhu to touch the Quran!

13th September 2010
WUDHU
QURAN
TOUCH
Well well well. Dr Zakir once again I will need to take a second opinion.

We love the work you do in comparative religion, please keep it up. BUT Please stick to what you are good at "Comparative Religion"

You Say we dont need to have Wudhu to touch the Quran. Because the Quran is touched by any one and every one, and because of this reason The verse you quote would be proved to be false, hence your argument. SubhanAllah.
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Being a non Muslim is different.
A silly question from me "When do angels become Impure?"

Well Dr. I can give you ample evidence YOU DO NEED WUDHU. But to suffice I will remind you what your own Scholar says.

Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz was asked a similar question, and he said:
It is not permissible for a Muslim to touch the Qur’aan when he does not have wudoo, according to the majority of scholars. This is the view of the four imaams (may Allaah be pleased with them), and this was the view expressed in the fatwas of the Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). A saheeh hadeeth concerning that has been narrated from ‘Amr ibn Hazm (may Allaah be pleased with him), stating that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) wrote to the people of Yemen: “No one should touch the Qur’aan except one who is taahir (pure).” This is a jayyid hadeeth which has a number of other isnaads which strengthen it. Hence it is known that it not permissible to touch the Qur’aan except in a state of purity from both major and minor impurity. The same applies to moving it from place to place, if the person who is moving it is not taahir. But if he touches it or moves it with something in between, such as picking it up in a wrapper, then it is OK. But if he touches it directly when he is not taahir, this is not permitted according to the saheeh view of the majority of scholars, for the reasons stated above. With regard to reciting it, it is OK for him to recite it from memory when he is without wudoo’, or for him to read it if the Qur’aan is held by someone who asks him to correct or prompt him.

Source: http://islamqa.com/en/ref/10672

Another Scholar of your school Proves you wrong. Listen to it from 4 minutes & 30 seconds
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WOW! I dont even need Our Scholars to prove you wrong.

NEED I SAY MORE, MAY BE LATER......

......Well That time has come, as Dr Abu Ameenah Bilal Phillips says in his book regarding the Laws of Menstration that women can touch & recite the Quran during their Period. This is also refuted below.

Touching The Quran:

Allah azza wa jal says:

"That (this) is indeed an honourable recital (the Noble Quran). In a Book well-guarded (with Allah in the heaven). Which non can touch but the purified."
[Al-Waqi'ah 79]

The Companions (radiallahu anhum) were all agreed that it is forbidden to touch the Quran while one is in a state of impurity.

Abdullah ibn Abi Bakr ibn Hazm reported that the letter which the Prophet (salallahu alayhi wasallam) wrote for Amr ibn Hazm stated: "No one is to touch the Quran except one who is purified."
[Malik, al-Muwatta 108]

Because of the above verse and hadith no one in a state of impurity is allowed to touch the Quran. Abd al-Razzaq has narrated from Ata ibn Abi Rabah, al-Shabi, Tawus, Qasim ibn Muhammad and others that "they disliked the Quran to be touched without wudu."
[Abd al-Razzaq, al-Musannaf, i. 338-41]

Nevertheless, one who does not have wudu may recite it without touching it.

Recitation of the Quran in a state of janabah:

Imam Muhammad (ra) narrated from Ali ibn Abi Talib (ra) that he said on being asked about reading the Quran without wudu: "The Messenger of Allah (salallahu alayhi wa sallam) used to recite the Quran and nothing other than janabah (major impurity) stopped him from doing so." Imam Muhammad (ra) said: "We hold to it, we do not see any harm in one reading the Quran in any condition except if one is in a state of janabah. This is the opinion of Abu Hanifa (ra)."
[Abu Hanifa, K. al-Athar 70]

The person who is in a state of janabah is also not allowed to recite any portion of the Quran.
Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallahu anhuma) reported that the Prophet (salallahu alayhi wasallam) said: "The woman during her period and all those who are in the state of janabah will not read anything from the Quran."
[al-Tirmidhi, k. al-taharah, b. ma ja'a f al-junub wa al-ha'id annahuma la yaqra'an al-quran; Ibn Majah, k. al-taharah, b. ma ja'a fi qira'at al'-quran ala ghayr taharah]

The corrupted Salafi opinion:

`Aishah (radiallahu anha) reported: The Messenger of Allah (salallahu alayhi wasallam) used to remember Allah at all times.
[Muslim]

Such religious scholars take support from this Hadith who hold that the recitation of the Qur'an is permissible in a state of Janabah (resulting from coition) and menses. Salafi Scholars say that Imam Al-Bukhari is also included among those who hold this view, Allahu Alum. They say that the words "at all times'' clearly means that. The Prophet (PBUH) used to remember Allah (which includes the recitation of the Qur'an also) no matter whether he was in a state of minor or major pollution. For this reason, Sheikh Al-Albani has objected Imam An-Nawawi's mentioning these two exceptions (pollution resulting from coition and menses) in the relevant title, and has stated that there is no Hadith in support of these exceptions. In fact, the Hadith narrated by `Aishah (May Allah be pleased with her) contradicts this view. In the opinion of this school of thought, the Ahadith which prohibit the remembrance of Allah when a person is in the state of Janabah are weak in authority and are open to discussion. Thus, such Ahadith do not prove the prohibition. In the opinion of the second school of thought, which holds the opposite view, such Ahadith carry weight despite being weak in authority, because their weakness is not serious. Some of them even believe that such Ahadith come to the level of Hadith Hasan. So far logic is concerned, the viewpoint of the first school carries more weight but the reverence of the Qur'an also calls for caution. The best way to create conformity between the two views is that in inevitable situations one may go by the first view but in the ordinary circumstances it is better to follow the second view. Allah Alone knows what is right.
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posted by abu mohammed on 13th September 2010 - 16 comments

16 Comments

Yasin wrote on 13 Sep 2010
Jazakallah. Posted on the forum. I had no idea he said this, unbelievable and shocking
Blogger's Reply:
Jazakallah, This is just the beginning. What ever I shall post, InshaAllah, there will be proof to go with it. The Problem is that Dr. Zakir Naik is very good in comparative religion, therefore, our Muslim brothers and sisters accept everything he says. This sort of thing makes my blood boil. Alhumdulillah I even managed to find Salafi evidence. There was no need for me to bring our scholars into it. Because if this post gets passed around then the salafis would immediately say that it is weak. I pray to Allah that my Salafi Brothers wake up and stop blind following.
 
Yasin wrote on 13 Sep 2010
Also, was the sister of 'Umar (RA) ignorant of the ruling of zakir naik that she did not let her brother 'Umar (RA) touch the Qur'aan sayin that he is a pagan and impure hence cannot touch the verses of the holy Qur'aan when he requested to see it?
Blogger's Reply:
SubhanAllah, when I first composed the blog that was the first thing I mentioned, then I removed it, thats why at the end of my blog I said "need I say more.. maybe later." But Alhumdulillah, its common knowledge.

You cant trust the Salafis, what if they commented and said that the Hadith was weak!!!! I would have to accept the comment and publish it only to be fair and then refute it. The things we have to put up with. Allah help us.


I Have added an extra portion to the blog for further info.
 
ummi taalib wrote on 18 Sep 2010
jazakallah for the post and aameen to the du'a...when Allah opens hearts it is easy, when He closes them one does not "see/hear"...we beg His refuge
 
Mohammed Eisa Suliman wrote on 25 Feb 2011
Jazak allah khair......



Dr, need to learn some thing.... Dr, better you be a Dr, and see the patients....

Blogger's Reply:
Dr Naik is very good in his field of comparative religion, please dont get me wrong. He is much more knowlagable than I am, but it is best advised that we do not take religious verdicts from him.
 
Omer wrote on 24 Feb 2012
Asalam o ALaikum. I agree to the above mentioned reply directed to Zakir Naik. However, I have a different question. If a non Muslim wants to study Quran to learn about Islam and it's holy book, should he first of all perform a ritual of the religion he doesn't believe yet? In other words, a person who doesn't believe in islam, Why should he/she be convinced to perform wudu first to read the Quran, and how will he accept this instruction by some one while he doesn't believe in islam yet and also wants to learn about it? I personally believe that this ruling is for the Muslims. Correct me if I am wrong.
Blogger's Reply:
Jazakallah, unfortunately I'm not a scholar. I'm in no position to correct you. But I guess you are right. These rules are for us as Muslims. The Kuffar should be asked to treat it with respect, for if they really are looking for the truth, then they will respect its rules.
 
Umair wrote on 13 Jun 2013
Assalamo alaikum
Firstly, my fellow muslim brothers and sisters, avoid backbiting(choghli and gheebut).
Secondly, U can visit ur local masjid alim to ask ur masail and try not to discuss islamic matters that you have know knowledge of. In my opinion, its better to ask an alim or mufti instead of discussion by laymen like us.
Blogger's Reply:
WasSalaam, firstly this is not gheebah.

Secondly, the people who have provided evidence are scholars on Islam and the comments made by some are actually are Aalim/maulana.

In this case, even a layperson knows that Dr Zakir Naik is wrong.

May Allah guide us all and keep us steadfast on the Deen with the correct understanding.
 
Umair wrote on 15 Jun 2013
Respected sir, U were a bit harsh and i personally think that u should stop pointing fingers on fellow muslim brothers.
Somebody said on this website, "Dr, need to learn some thing.... Dr, better you be a Dr, and see the patients....". Now just assume and put urself in the shoes of the doctor. If somebody comments about u publically like this, would u not get hurt so please try to empathize. We should better ponder on our own mistakes first and avoid publicaly finding faults in others. Even if u think anybody is wrong, we should do nahianilmunkar but that should be only done secretly and not infront of others. Please do not reply. Ask an alim directly for the masla and not directly about a brother. May Allah give us hidayat. Ameen. Wallahul ilam.
 
T Miah wrote on 12 Sep 2013
Salam, The Angels are purified so none can touch the Mushaf unless their purified, makes sense. Also how many times during the day must one do wudu? Is it not makrooh to do wudu unless you intend to pray? Allah is not oppressive and does not want us to endure hardship & Allah knows best.
 
Brother wrote on 9 Mar 2014
Asalamu alaikum,

I was sitting with some brothers and a Sheikh a couple days ago and one of the brothers asked the Sheikh about touching and reciting the Qur'an without wudu. The Sheikh, who is a student of Sheikh Albani rahimullah said, that if you read from the Qur'an without wudu (even by touching it), you get hassanat. And if you read with wudu, you get even more hassanat. He sayd that the rule of touching the Qur'an without wudu belongs to the Qur'an on the table in the (7th?) heaven. So I guess not all scholars have the same opnion about this. Allahu a3lem
Blogger's Reply:
Even the respected Salafi scholars disagree with the above. The evidence is in the videos.

Why would Allah tell us that only the pure can touch the Quran when he's talking about the one in the 7th heaven. That makes it sound like there will be impure people there who have been ordered not to touch the Quran.
 
Brother wrote on 13 Mar 2014
Yes, i thought the same..

Maybe I missunderstood something. I'll ask him again.

wasalam
 
siddiq wrote on 8 Jul 2014
Non muslim is not going to read Arab Quran unless he/she is an Arabi.. A translation of Quran is all needed for non muslim to understand Quran and that too it helps only to some extent. a proper guidance is indeed needed to comprehend its complete core meanings with the light of Hadeedh.. each and every verses bear a background clarifications.
 
Adib wrote on 27 Aug 2014
Firstly, are you a scholar? Your assumptions do not explain anything at all... When one reads "this type of thing makes my blood boil", he can only come to the conclusion that you are not at peace.
Secondly, your comments prove one after the other that you did not grasp Dr. Naik's reasoning, whether or not he was wrong.
Thirdly, you clearly have a problem with Salafis, but since when does that give you the right to be disrespectful?
Finally, the "your school / my school" approach that you opted for is unhealthy and unnecessary. If you can't see that then you are probably a part of the problem.
Allahu a'lam.
 
Adib wrote on 27 Aug 2014
Firstly, are you a scholar? Your assumptions do not explain anything at all... When one reads "this type of thing makes my blood boil", he can only come to the conclusion that you are not at peace.
Secondly, your comments prove one after the other that you did not grasp Dr. Naik's reasoning, whether or not he was wrong.
Thirdly, you clearly have a problem with Salafis, but since when does that give you the right to be disrespectful?
Finally, the "your school / my school" approach that you opted for is unhealthy and unnecessary. If you can't see that then you are probably a part of the problem.
Allahu a'lam.
Blogger's Reply:
WasSalaam,

No, I'm not a scholar. Jazakallah for your insight. Dr. Naik's own schools teachers are saying otherwise, please watch the videos too.

Jzk.
 
Adib wrote on 7 Sep 2014
A Salamu Alaykum dear brother/sister,

Dr. Yasir Qadhi is 10 years younger than Dr. Zakir Naik and has never been his school teacher... Nevertheless, the two are clearly in contradiction, and according to the videos you posted, one can only conclude that they disagree. This doesn't make one of them right or wrong. Many respectable scholars have disagreed in the past.

You, on the other hand, shouldn't say things like "Please stick to what you are good at -Comparative Religion-". That is very disrespectful.

For your own sake, if you are not a scholar, please do not make assumptions.

"Do not say falsely, �This is lawful and that is forbidden,� inventing a lie about God: those who invent lies about God will not prosper." (16:116)

"Do not follow blindly what you do not know to be true: ears, eyes, and heart, you will be questioned about all these." (17:36)
 
Naz wrote on 18 Oct 2014
Assalamulaikum to all. I'm no scholar either.
Just my little input, if you choose to consider.
In the days of our Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), it is important that we remember that the Quran was recited and not compiled in a book unlike now. So when it is said in a 'purified' state, maybe it doesn't mean physically.
I could go on but let's just say Dr Zaki didn't talk without proof and I'm sure nobody wants to dirty his Quran.

It's just that it's deeper than just physical purified.

 
Seher wrote on 10 Jun 2016
Being disrespectful towards others is not gonna get us anywhere. It's ok to prove that someone is incorrect, politely. But it is not ok to humiliate someone in public even if they are wrong. Let's be dignified.
 
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