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#46 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2015 18:26

Dear Qadiyani,

Preamble:

Our success and the success of whole mankind is dependent upon obeying the commandments of Allah (SWT) as shown by Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) who lived and passed away in Madina 1400 years ago.

Your illusions and misunderstandings will be addressed systematically in a point by point manner so I suggest that you also get organised and address issues systematically.

Part 1 was stated here and summarised as follows:

  1. Prophets (AS) are chosen by Allah (SWT)

  2. They deliver the message which is revealed to them by Allah (SWT)

Qadiyani has decided to waffle post after post but conceded that he at least agrees to Part 1 of the conclusion above.

Part 2 was stated here and summarised as follows:

  1. Prophets (AS) are PERMANENT!

  2. There is NOT A SINGLE Prophet (AS) who UNBECAME a Prophet (AS)!

Part 3: Allah (SWT) took Nabi Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) to Mir'aj

This is clearly stated in the Qur'aan and Sunnah as follows:

Quraan:

[17:1] Glorious is He Who made his servant travel by night from Al-Masjid-ul-Haram to Al-Masjid-ul-AqSa whose environs We have blessed, so that We let him see some of Our signs. Surely, He is the All-Hearing, the All- Seeing.

Sunnah:

It is narrated in the Hadeeth as:

وَحَدَّثَنِي زُهَيْرُ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، حَدَّثَنَا حُجَيْنُ بْنُ الْمُثَنَّى، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْعَزِيزِ، - وَهُوَ ابْنُ أَبِي سَلَمَةَ - عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ الْفَضْلِ، عَنْ أَبِي سَلَمَةَ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ لَقَدْ رَأَيْتُنِي فِي الْحِجْرِ وَقُرَيْشٌ تَسْأَلُنِي عَنْ مَسْرَاىَ فَسَأَلَتْنِي عَنْ أَشْيَاءَ مِنْ بَيْتِ الْمَقْدِسِ لَمْ أُثْبِتْهَا ‏.‏ فَكُرِبْتُ كُرْبَةً مَا كُرِبْتُ مِثْلَهُ قَطُّ قَالَ فَرَفَعَهُ اللَّهُ لِي أَنْظُرُ إِلَيْهِ مَا يَسْأَلُونِي عَنْ شَىْءٍ إِلاَّ أَنْبَأْتُهُمْ بِهِ وَقَدْ رَأَيْتُنِي فِي جَمَاعَةٍ مِنَ الأَنْبِيَاءِ فَإِذَا مُوسَى قَائِمٌ يُصَلِّي فَإِذَا رَجُلٌ ضَرْبٌ جَعْدٌ كَأَنَّهُ مِنْ رِجَالِ شَنُوءَةَ وَإِذَا عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ - عَلَيْهِ السَّلاَمُ - قَائِمٌ يُصَلِّي أَقْرَبُ النَّاسِ بِهِ شَبَهًا عُرْوَةُ بْنُ مَسْعُودٍ الثَّقَفِيُّ وَإِذَا إِبْرَاهِيمُ - عَلَيْهِ السَّلاَمُ - قَائِمٌ يُصَلِّي أَشْبَهُ النَّاسِ بِهِ صَاحِبُكُمْ - يَعْنِي نَفْسَهُ - فَحَانَتِ الصَّلاَةُ فَأَمَمْتُهُمْ فَلَمَّا فَرَغْتُ مِنَ الصَّلاَةِ قَالَ قَائِلٌ يَا مُحَمَّدُ هَذَا مَالِكٌ صَاحِبُ النَّارِ فَسَلِّمْ عَلَيْهِ ‏.‏ فَالْتَفَتُّ إِلَيْهِ فَبَدَأَنِي بِالسَّلاَمِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏

 

It is narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (ï·º) said: I found myself in Hijr and the Quraish were asking me about my might journey. I was asked about things pertaining to Bait-ul-Maqdis which I could not preserve (in my mind). I was very much vexed, so vexed as I had never been before. Then Allah raised it (Bait-ul-Maqdis) before my eyes. I looked towards it, and I gave them the information about whatever they questioned me I also saw myself among the group of apostles. I saw Moses saying prayer and found him to be a well-built man as if he was a man of the tribe of Shanu'a. I saw Jesus son of Mary (peace be upon him) offering prayer, of all of men he had the closest resemblance with 'Urwa b. Masu'd al-Thaqafi. I saw Ibrahim (peace be upon him) offering prayer; he had the closest resemblance with your companion (the Prophet himself) amongst people. When the time of prayer came I led them. When I completed the prayer, someone said: Here is Malik, the keeper of the Hell; pay him salutations. I turned to him, but he preceded me in salutation. [Muslim]

 

The Hadeeth of course has more details of the entire journey e.g. summarised like so...


17380 حدثنا عفان قال حدثنا همام بن يحيى قال سمعت قتادة يحدث عن أنس بن مالك أن مالك بن صعصعة حدثه أن نبي الله صلى الله عليه وسلم حدثهم عن ليلة أسري به قال بينا أنا في الحطيم وربما قال قتادة في الحجر مضطجع إذ أتاني آت فجعل يقول لصاحبه الأوسط بين الثلاثة قال فأتاني فقد وسمعت قتادة يقول فشق ما بين هذه إلى هذه قال قتادة فقلت للجارود وهو إلى جنبي ما يعني قال من ثغرة نحره إلى شعرته وقد سمعته يقول من قصته إلى شعرته قال فاستخرج قلبي فأتيت بطست من ذهب مملوءة إيمانا وحكمة فغسل قلبي ثم حشي ثم أعيد ثم أتيت بدابة دون البغل وفوق الحمار أبيض قال فقال الجارود هو البراق يا أبا حمزة قال نعم يقع خطوه عند أقصى طرفه قال فحملت عليه فانطلق بي جبريل عليه السلام حتى أتى بي السماء الدنيا فاستفتح فقيل من هذا قال جبريل قيل ومن معك قال محمد قيل أوقد أرسل إليه قال نعم قيل مرحبا به ونعم المجيء جاء قال ففتح فلما خلصت فإذا فيها آدم عليه السلام فقال هذا أبوك آدم فسلم عليه فسلمت عليه فرد السلام ثم قال مرحبا بالابن الصالح والنبي الصالح قال ثم صعد حتى أتى السماء الثانية فاستفتح فقيل من هذا قال جبريل قيل ومن معك قال محمد قيل أوقد أرسل إليه قال نعم قيل مرحبا به ونعم المجيء جاء قال ففتح فلما خلصت فإذا يحيى وعيسى وهما ابنا الخالة فقال هذا يحيى وعيسى فسلم عليهما قال فسلمت فردا السلام ثم قالا مرحبا بالأخ الصالح والنبي الصالح قال ثم صعد حتى أتى السماء الثالثة فاستفتح فقيل من هذا قال جبريل قيل ومن معك قال محمد أوقد أرسل إليه قال نعم قيل مرحبا به ونعم المجيء جاء قال ففتح فلما خلصت فإذا يوسف عليه السلام قال هذا يوسف فسلم عليه قال فسلمت عليه فرد السلام وقال [ ص: 209 ] مرحبا بالأخ الصالح والنبي الصالح ثم صعد حتى أتى السماء الرابعة فاستفتح فقيل من هذا قال جبريل قيل من معك قال محمد قيل وقد أرسل إليه قال نعم قيل مرحبا به ونعم المجيء جاء قال ففتح فلما خلصت قال فإذا إدريس عليه السلام قال هذا إدريس فسلم عليه قال فسلمت عليه فرد السلام ثم قال مرحبا بالأخ الصالح والنبي الصالح قال ثم صعد حتى أتى السماء الخامسة فاستفتح فقيل من هذا قال جبريل قيل ومن معك قال محمد قيل أوقد أرسل إليه قال نعم قيل مرحبا به ونعم المجيء جاء قال ففتح فلما خلصت فإذا هارون عليه السلام قال هذا هارون فسلم عليه قال فسلمت عليه قال فرد السلام ثم قال مرحبا بالأخ الصالح والنبي الصالح قال ثم صعد حتى أتى السماء السادسة فاستفتح قيل من هذا قال جبريل قيل ومن معك قال محمد قيل أوقد أرسل إليه قال نعم قيل مرحبا به ونعم المجيء جاء ففتح فلما خلصت فإذا أنا بموسى عليه السلام قال هذا موسى فسلم عليه فسلمت عليه فرد السلام ثم قال مرحبا بالأخ الصالح والنبي الصالح قال فلما تجاوزت بكى قيل له ما يبكيك قال أبكي لأن غلاما بعث بعدي ثم يدخل الجنة من أمته أكثر مما يدخلها من أمتي قال ثم صعد حتى أتى السماء السابعة فاستفتح قيل من هذا قال جبريل قيل ومن معك قال محمد قيل أوقد أرسل إليه قال نعم قيل مرحبا به ونعم المجيء جاء قال ففتح فلما خلصت فإذا إبراهيم عليه السلام فقال هذا إبراهيم فسلم عليه فسلمت عليه فرد السلام ثم قال مرحبا بالابن الصالح والنبي الصالح قال ثم رفعت إلي سدرة المنتهى فإذا نبقها مثل قلال هجر وإذا ورقها مثل آذان الفيلة فقال هذه سدرة المنتهى قال وإذا أربعة أنهار نهران باطنان ونهران ظاهران فقلت ما هذا يا جبريل قال أما الباطنان فنهران في الجنة وأما الظاهران فالنيل والفرات قال ثم رفع إلي البيت المعمور قال قتادة وحدثنا الحسن عن أبي هريرة عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم أنه رأى البيت المعمور يدخله كل يوم سبعون ألف ملك ثم لا يعودون إليه ثم رجع إلى حديث أنس قال ثم أتيت بإناء من خمر وإناء من لبن وإناء من عسل قال فأخذت اللبن قال هذه الفطرة أنت عليها وأمتك قال ثم فرضت الصلاة خمسين صلاة كل يوم قال فرجعت فمررت على موسى عليه السلام فقال بماذا أمرت قال أمرت بخمسين صلاة كل يوم قال إن أمتك لا تستطيع لخمسين صلاة وإني قد خبرت الناس قبلك وعالجت بني إسرائيل أشد المعالجة فارجع إلى ربك فاسأله التخفيف لأمتك قال فرجعت فوضع عني عشرا قال فرجعت إلى موسى فقال بما أمرت قلت بأربعين صلاة كل يوم قال إن أمتك لا تستطيع أربعين صلاة كل يوم وإني قد خبرت الناس قبلك وعالجت بني إسرائيل أشد المعالجة فارجع إلى ربك فاسأله التخفيف لأمتك قال فرجعت فوضع عني عشرا أخرى فرجعت إلى موسى فقال لي بما أمرت قلت أمرت بثلاثين صلاة كل يوم قال إن أمتك لا تستطيع لثلاثين صلاة كل يوم وإني قد خبرت الناس قبلك وعالجت بني إسرائيل أشد المعالجة فارجع إلى ربك فاسأله التخفيف لأمتك قال فرجعت فوضع عني عشرا أخرى فرجعت إلى موسى فقال لي بما أمرت قلت بعشرين صلاة كل يوم فقال إن أمتك لا تستطيع لعشرين صلاة كل يوم وإني قد خبرت الناس قبلك وعالجت بني إسرائيل أشد المعالجة فارجع إلى ربك فاسأله التخفيف لأمتك قال فرجعت فأمرت بعشر صلوات كل يوم فرجعت إلى موسى فقال بما أمرت قلت بعشر صلوات كل يوم فقال إن أمتك لا تستطيع لعشر صلوات كل يوم فإني قد خبرت الناس قبلك وعالجت بني إسرائيل أشد المعالجة فارجع إلى ربك فاسأله التخفيف لأمتك قال فرجعت فأمرت بخمس صلوات كل يوم فرجعت إلى موسى فقال بما أمرت قلت أمرت بخمس صلوات كل يوم فقال إن أمتك لا تستطيع [ ص: 210 ] لخمس صلوات كل يوم وإني قد خبرت الناس قبلك وعالجت بني إسرائيل أشد المعالجة فارجع إلى ربك فاسأله التخفيف لأمتك قال قلت قد سألت ربي حتى استحييت منه ولكن أرضى وأسلم فلما نفذت نادى مناد قد أمضيت فريضتي وخففت عن عبادي حدثنا محمد بن جعفر قال حدثنا سعيد بن أبي عروبة عن قتادة بن دعامة عن أنس بن مالك عن مالك بن صعصعة عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم أنه قال بينما أنا عند الكعبة بين النائم واليقظان فسمعت قائلا يقول أحد الثلاثة فذكر الحديث قال ثم رفع لنا البيت المعمور يدخله كل يوم سبعون ألف ملك إذا خرجوا منه لم يعودوا فيه آخر ما عليهم قال ثم رفعت إلي سدرة المنتهى فإذا ورقها مثل آذان الفيلة فذكر الحديث قال فقلت لقد اختلفت إلى ربي عز وجل حتى استحييت لا ولكن أرضى وأسلم قال فلما جاوزته نوديت أني قد خففت على عبادي وأمضيت فرائضي وجعلت لكل حسنة عشر أمثالها حدثنا محمد بن بكر قال أخبرنا سعيد عن قتادة عن أنس بن مالك عن مالك بن صعصعة رجل من قومه فذكره  "

 

Summary of Part 3:

  1. We Muslims believe in Miraj as it is mentioned in the Qur'aan and Hadeeth

Do you mind clarifying the Qadiyani belief about Miraj? Do you believe in it or not?

Thanks

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#47 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2015 18:29
Ahmadian just follow the rules and stop going around in circles, to bad your 51k followers will look down at you on twitter now and hopefully they will realise ahmadiyah is not even islam in the first place, I invite you and them to revert back to the true Islam

Your posts were censored for going around in circles, and the only one contradicting is you.

You keep mentioning Muadh Khan saying there will be a Prophet and me saying there won't, Maulana Yasin explained the ahadith to you , which part of it doesn't make sense to you ?? because right now that's all your moaning about.
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#48 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2015 18:46
I just spent 10 minutes cleaning up this thread and sending all unrelated bickering to another thread here.. and no there's more posts in that time.

WARNING: ONLY MUADH, THE THREAD STARTER AND THE QADIYANI IS ALLOWED TO POST IN THIS THREAD. The rest of the posts will be DELETED with no recovery option. Muadh is taking a step by approach. Jinn is the thread starter and the Qadiyani is the challenged one. Please keep it simple.
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#49 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2015 18:50

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Heading for Asar Jamaat and will return after Salah until then hopefully the Qadiyani can asnwer in a simple like whether he believes in Miraj or not!
 

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#50 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2015 19:39

Dear Qadiyani,

Preamble:

Our success and the success of whole mankind is dependent upon obeying the commandments of Allah (SWT) as shown by Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) who lived and passed away in Madina 1400 years ago.

Your illusions and misunderstandings will be addressed systematically in a point by point manner so I suggest that you also get organised and address issues systematically.

Part 1 was stated here and summarised as follows:

  1. Prophets (AS) are chosen by Allah (SWT)

  2. They deliver the message which is revealed to them by Allah (SWT)

Qadiyani has decided to waffle post after post but conceded that he agrees with both points.

Part 2 was stated here and summarised as follows:

  1. Prophets (AS) are PERMANENT!

  2. There is NOT A SINGLE Prophet (AS) who UNBECAME a Prophet (AS)!

Qadiyani has decided to waffle post after post but conceded that he agrees

Part 3  was stated here and summarised as follows:

  1. We Muslims believe in Miraj as it is mentioned in the Qur'aan and Hadeeth:

This time the Qadiani decided to:

  • Leave the forum
  • Leave the Twitter discussion the subject and answer on a Twiter discussion about Pakistan Cricket!

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Part 4: Sayyidina Isa (AS) came BEFORE Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam)

The Qur’aan very clearly and categorically predicts  the coming of Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) from Nabi Isa (AS) as follows:

[61:6] (Remember) when Isa, son of Maryam, said, .O children of Isra‘il, I am a messenger of Allah sent towards you, confirming the Torah that is (sent down) before me, and giving you the good news of a messenger who will come after me, whose name will be AHmad.. But when he came to them with manifest signs, they said, .This is a clear magic.

Summary of Part 4:

  1. We believe that Nabi (AS) came FIRST, PROPHESISED the coming of Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) and then he came.

If you DISAGREE please state your evidence.

If you AGREE (so far) please state clearly that you AGREE.

I will continue the discussion based on your response.

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#51 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2015 22:05

Part 5: Demonstration of Qadiyani Ignorance in 5 Steps:

  1. Step 1: We all agree that Prophets (AS) are appointed by Allah (SWT) and NO ONE can just claim to be a Prophet and they speak from what Allah (SWT) says. We ask the Qadiyanees to prove how Allah (SWT) appointed Mirza?
  2. Step 2: We all believe that all Prophets (AS) are PERMANENT i.e. you cannot become a Prophet (AS) and then get your licence revoked (Astaghfiruallah) and then get it again. Once you are a Prophet (AS), you are a Prophet (AS) even in the afterlife your rank and stature will be recognised. 
  3. Step 3: When Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) went for Miraaj he lead the ENTIRE JAMAAT of Prophets (AS) [see words in RED] and when he ascended the heavens they called him Nabi [see words in RED]. This is obviously continuous from point above but I wanted to show you that Nabi is a Nabi FOREVER and they call each other with that honorable title. This point also proves that the most superior leads the people in Salah i.e. since our Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) is the best of humanity he became the Imam! We ask the Qadiyanees to prove how Isa (AS) is superior to  Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) to revoke/change his Sharia?
  4. Step 4: Sayyidina Isa i.e. Son of Mary (AS) came BEFORE Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) otherwise how can he Predict about the coming of Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam)! Prediction is of the future why would you predict the past?

Step 5: Bringing It all together

Allah (SWT) calls Prophets NABI, Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) calls Prophets NABI and they call each other NABI I mean what do the Qadiyanees want us to call them other than NABI?

The Qadiyani shows us the Hadeeth and jumps up and down deliriously saying look calls Isa (Son of Mary) [AS] is called NABI so why don’t you believe that there is another NABI coming?

Point 1:

We say read the Hadeeth NOWHERE does it address the final entry point of Isa (Son of Mary) [AS] as NABI it actually says:

إِذْ بَعَثَ اللَّهُ الْمَسِيحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ فَيَنْزِلُ عِنْدَ الْمَنَارَةِ الْبَيْضَاءِ

When Isa (Son of Mary) [AS] is appointed THEN he will descend upon the White Minaret.

Point 2:

The Qadiyanees (of Pakistan) say that you have mistranslated the Hadeeth and the word “Ba-Aa-Tha” is from BaThat and “Ba-Aa-Tha” is used in the Qur’aan for Prophethood exclusively for Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) and they present this verse as evidence:

[62:2] He is the One who raised amidst the unlettered people a messenger from among themselves who recites to them His verses, and purifies them, and teaches them the Book and the wisdom, while they were earlier in open error.
 

We say calm down before you get a heart attack! We show them the same Hadeeth which they present to us 3-4 lines forward where Ya’jooj and Ma’jooj are described and ask Qadiyanees are they your Prophets because the same words are used?

وَيَبْعَثُ اللَّهُ يَأْجُوجَ وَمَأْجُوجَ

Point 3:

We ask the Qadiyanees SHOW that Prophethood of Sayyidina Isa (AS) is DISCONNECTED and then RE-CONNECTED (or elevated) at the time of descension?

Point 4:

We ask Qadiyanees as to why Sayyidina Isa (AS) will refuse to lead the Ummah of in Prayer after he descends? During the miraculous journey Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam)  was made to lead all other PROPHETS (AS) to establish superiority and here a PROPHET is refusing to lead NORMAL people, why?

أخبرني الحسن بن حكيم المروزي ، ثنا أحمد بن إبراهيم الشذوري ، ثنا سعيد بن هبيرة ، ثنا حماد بن زيد ، عن أيوب السختياني ، وعلي بن زيد بن جدعان ، عن أبي نضرة ، قال : أتينا عثمان بن أبي العاص يوم الجمعة لنعارض مصحفنا بمصحفه ، فلما حضرت الجمعة أمرنا فاغتسلنا وتطيبنا ، ورحنا إلى المسجد ، فجلسنا إلى رجل يحدث ثم جاء عثمان بن أبي العاص فتحولنا إليه ، فقال عثمان - رضي الله عنه - : سمعت رسول الله - صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم - ، يقول : " يكون للمسلمين ثلاثة أمصار : مصر بملتقى البحرين ، ومصر بالجزيرة ، ومصر بالشام ، فيفزع الناس ثلاث فزعات فيخرج الدجال في عراض جيش فيهزم من قبل المشرق ، فأول مصر يرده المصر الذي بملتقى البحرين ، فتصير أهلها ثلاث فرق : فرقة تقيم وتقول نشامه وننظر ما هو ، وفرقة تلحق بالأعراب ، وفرقة تلحق بالمصر الذي يليهم ، ثم يأتي الشام [ ص: 675 ] فينحاز المسلمون إلى عقبة أفيق فيبعثون بسرح لهم ، فيصاب سرحهم فيشتد ذلك عليهم ، وتصيبهم مجاعة شديدة وجهد ، حتى إن أحدهم ليحرق وتر قوسه فيأكله ، فبينما هم كذلك إذ ناداهم مناد من السحر : يا أيها الناس ، أتاكم الغوث ، فيقول بعضهم لبعض : إن هذا لصوت رجل شبعان ، فينزل عيسى ابن مريم - عليه الصلاة والسلام - عند صلاة الفجر ، فيقول له إمام الناس : تقدم يا روح الله فصل بنا ، فيقول : إنكم معشر هذه الأمة أمراء بعضكم على بعض ، تقدم أنت فصل بنا ، فيتقدم فيصلي بهم فإذا انصرف أخذ عيسى - صلوات الله عليه - حربته [ فينطلق ] نحو الدجال فإذا رآه ذاب كما يذوب الرصاص ، فتقع حربته بين ثندوته فيقتله ، ثم ينهزم أصحابه فليس شيء يومئذ يجن منهم أحدا ، حتى إن الحجر يقول : يا مؤمن هذا كافر فاقتله " " هذا حديث صحيح الإسناد على شرط مسلم بذكر أيوب السختياني ، ولم يخرجاه " .

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Qadiyanee ran away so how can I give you a step 6? :P

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#52 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2015 15:53

Dear Qadiyani,

Preamble:

Our success and the success of whole mankind is dependent upon obeying the commandments of Allah (SWT) as shown by Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) who lived and passed away in Madina 1400 years ago.

Your illusions and misunderstandings will be addressed systematically in a point by point manner so I suggest that you also get organised and address issues systematically.

Part 5 was concluded here.

Part 6: Was Isra’ and Mi‘raaj a Dream?

It would appear that the Qadiyanee with 51,000+ twitter followers has plucked up courage again to start an argument and this time instead of addressing the already open issues he has gone off a tangent and started discussing a new issue.

The Qadiyanees (in direct contrast) to Muslims believe that the events of Isra and Miraj were a DREAM and not physical, why? Firstly, because (fully) believing in this event DESTROYS the entire basis and foundation of this cult. Secondly, because there have been heretics, atheists (and a very small number of Scholars due to their mistake) have held this view and the very nature of Qadiyani’ism is to create divisions in the Ummah by exploiting and airing differences.

Qadiyani strategy on Isra’ and Mi‘raaj:

Broadly, there are 3 separate issues connected with this night:

  1. Issue 1: Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) going on a Journey of Isra’ and Mi‘raaj.
  2. Issue 2: Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) meeting Allah (SWT)
  3. Issue 3: Did it happen ONCE or more then ONCE?

The Qadiyani strategy is to first jumble up all 3 issues and mash them into a single issue. Then quote references of first issue for 2nd and references for second issue for first and so on. Then leave the standard commentaries and opinions and quote you OFF THE WALL references (which you have never heard of) to create doubts in your mind.

Let’s explore the Qadiyani tactics and respond to the deception…

Response 1: If Isra’ and Mi‘raaj was a dream then…

We know that the Quraysh of Makkah reacted in absolute astonishment when Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) described his Journey to Isra’ and Mi‘raaj, so much so that they decided to TEST Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) and then even SOUGHT verification from travelling caravans to seek confirmation of the incidents (and circumstances) described by Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam).

Why would they (Quraysh) go to such extremes if this was a dream? What is so unbelievable about a dream? A person can dream anything they want in a dream all sorts of things which cannot physically happen.

You can dream to be the President of United States, people will raise an eyebrow to say it’s weird but that’s about it.

I can narrate that I dreamed that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyani died of dysentery in his own vomit and faeces; what’s so unbelievable…

O What! That actually happened; can we scratch that last example please…

Response 2: Isra’ and Mi‘raaj is part of Aqeedah of Islam & Muslims

I said Aqeedah of Islam and Muslims so I absolutely don't expect the Qadiyanees to accept it; they have NOTHING to do with Islam

 ÙˆÙŽØ§Ù„مِعْرَاجُ حَقٌّ. وَقَدْ أُسْرِيَ بـِالنَّبـِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَعُرِجَ بـِشَخْصِهِ فِي الْيَقَظَةِ إِلَى السَّمَاءِ، ثُمَّ إِلَى حَيْثُ شَاءَ اللَّهُ تَعَالَى مِنَ العُلَى، وَأَكْرَمَهُ اللَّهُ تَعَالَى بـِمَا شَاءَ،

فَأَوْحَى إِلَى عَبْدِهِ مَا أَوْحَى (مَا کذب الفواد ما رای) فصلی اللھ علیھ وسلم فِی الاخرۃ والاولی

39. Al-Mi`raj (the Ascent through the heavens) is true. The Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, was taken by night and ascended in his bodily form, while awake, through the heavens, to whatever heights Allah willed for him. Allah ennobled him in the way that He ennobled him and revealed to him what He revealed to him, "and his heart was not mistaken about what it saw" (al-Najm 53:11). Allah blessed him and granted him peace in this world and the next.

Response 3: Isra’ and Mi‘raaj (primary verse) in the Qur'aan

سُبۡحَـٰنَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَسۡرَىٰ بِعَبۡدِهِۦ لَيۡلاً۬ مِّنَ ٱلۡمَسۡجِدِ ٱلۡحَرَامِ إِلَى ٱلۡمَسۡجِدِ ٱلۡأَقۡصَا ٱلَّذِى بَـٰرَكۡنَا حَوۡلَهُ Û¥ لِنُرِيَهُ Û¥ مِنۡ ءَايَـٰتِنَآ‌Ûš إِنَّهُ Û¥ هُوَ ٱلسَّمِيعُ ٱلۡبَصِيرُ

[17:1] Glorious is He Who made his servant travel by night from Al-Masjid-ul-Haram to Al-Masjid-ul-Aqsa whose environs We have blessed, so that We let him see some of Our signs. Surely, He is the All-Hearing, the All- Seeing.

The word used in the Qur’aan is “Abd” and there is no dictionary of Arabic language which gives the definition of “Abd” as spiritual or soul ALONE. Take a look at the following verse in the Qur’aan where the same root word “Abd” is used and look at the translation:

وَمَا خَلَقۡتُ ٱلۡجِنَّ وَٱلۡإِنسَ إِلَّا لِيَعۡبُدُونِ

[51:56] I did not create the Jinns and the human beings except for the purpose that they should worship Me.

Do you worship Allah (SWT) in a dream or does your soul worship according to this verse?

Qadiyanees have a very serious problem with this verse which is the primary verse for Isra’ and Mi‘raaj so they hardly EVER quote it because they can't explain it!

Response 4: Isra’ and Mi‘raaj (Secondary verse) in the Qur'aan and Qadiyani Deception

Here the Qadiyanees create deception by quoting you this verse from the Qur’aan:

مَا كَذَبَ ٱلۡفُؤَادُ مَا رَأَىٰٓ

[53:11] The heart did not err in what he saw.

All I will do is quote you the whole part of this discussion from the same Surah:

مَا كَذَبَ ٱلۡفُؤَادُ مَا رَأَىٰٓ
أَفَتُمَـٰرُونَهُ ۥ عَلَىٰ مَا يَرَىٰ
وَلَقَدۡ رَءَاهُ نَزۡلَةً أُخۡرَىٰ
عِندَ سِدۡرَةِ ٱلۡمُنتَهَىٰ
عِندَهَا جَنَّةُ ٱلۡمَأۡوَىٰٓ
إِذۡ يَغۡشَى ٱلسِّدۡرَةَ مَا يَغۡشَىٰ
مَا زَاغَ ٱلۡبَصَرُ وَمَا طَغَىٰ
لَقَدۡ رَأَىٰ مِنۡ ءَايَـٰتِ رَبِّهِ ٱلۡكُبۡرَىٰٓ


[53:11] The heart did not err in what he saw.[53:12] Do you quarrel with him in what he sees? [53:13] Indeed he saw him another time [53:14]by Sidrat-ul-Muntaha (the lote-tree in the upper realm), [53:15] near which there is Jannat-ul-Ma‘wa (the Paradise of Abode), [53:16] when the lote-tree was covered by that which covered it. [53:17] The eye neither went wrong, nor did exceed the limit.[53:18] He has indeed seen a part of the biggest signs of your Lord.

12 year old Arabic students know what “Basar” means! But in case someone is in doubt here are two examples from the Qur’aan (there are many more).  In the second example both words are used!

يَسۡـَٔلُ أَيَّانَ يَوۡمُ ٱلۡقِيَـٰمَةِ
فَإِذَا بَرِقَ ٱلۡبَصَرُ
وَخَسَفَ ٱلۡقَمَرُ
وَجُمِعَ ٱلشَّمۡسُ وَٱلۡقَمَرُ

[75:6] He asks, .When will be this Day of Resurrection? [75:7] So, when the eyes will be dazzled, [75:8] and the moon will lose its light, [75:9] and the sun and the moon will be joined together,

لَّذِى خَلَقَ سَبۡعَ سَمَـٰوَٲتٍ۬ طِبَاقً۬ا‌Û– مَّا تَرَىٰ فِى خَلۡقِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ مِن تَفَـٰوُتٍ۬‌Û– فَٱرۡجِعِ ٱلۡبَصَرَ Ù‡ÙŽÙ„Û¡ تَرَىٰ مِن فُطُورٍ۬

[67:3] who has created seven skies, one over the other. You will see nothing out of proportion in the creation of the Rahman (the All-Merciful Allah). So, cast your eye again. Do you see any rifts?

12 year old Arabic students know what “Ra'aa” means! But in case someone is in doubt here is a very common example from the Qur'aan:

أَلَمۡ تَرَ كَيۡفَ فَعَلَ رَبُّكَ بِأَصۡحَـٰبِ ٱلۡفِيلِ

[105:1] Have you not seen how your Lord dealt with the People of the Elephant?

It is ABSURD to try to state one verse, strip it out of context and try to make your point…

Response 5: Isra’ and Mi‘raaj was a dream otherwise why would Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) be asked to wake up? Qadiyani Deception

Qadiyanees again produce the snippet of a Hadeeth (as follows) and claim that this was a dream otherwise why would he be asked to wake up and he (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam)  (indeed) woke up in Haram:

قَالَ فَاهْبِطْ بِاسْمِ اللَّهِ‏.‏ قَالَ وَاسْتَيْقَظَ وَهْوَ فِي مَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ
 

On that Gabriel said, "Descend in Allah's Name." The Prophet (ï·º) then woke while he was in the Sacred Mosque (at Mecca).
 

Once again let us quote you the full Hadeeth which explains itself.

حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْعَزِيزِ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، حَدَّثَنِي سُلَيْمَانُ، عَنْ شَرِيكِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، أَنَّهُ قَالَ سَمِعْتُ ابْنَ مَالِكٍ، يَقُولُ لَيْلَةَ أُسْرِيَ بِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم مِنْ مَسْجِدِ الْكَعْبَةِ أَنَّهُ جَاءَهُ ثَلاَثَةُ نَفَرٍ قَبْلَ أَنْ يُوحَى إِلَيْهِ وَهْوَ نَائِمٌ فِي الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ، فَقَالَ أَوَّلُهُمْ أَيُّهُمْ هُوَ فَقَالَ أَوْسَطُهُمْ هُوَ خَيْرُهُمْ‏.‏ فَقَالَ آخِرُهُمْ خُذُوا خَيْرَهُمْ‏.‏ فَكَانَتْ تِلْكَ اللَّيْلَةَ، فَلَمْ يَرَهُمْ حَتَّى أَتَوْهُ لَيْلَةً أُخْرَى فِيمَا يَرَى قَلْبُهُ، وَتَنَامُ عَيْنُهُ وَلاَ يَنَامُ قَلْبُهُ وَكَذَلِكَ الأَنْبِيَاءُ تَنَامُ أَعْيُنُهُمْ وَلاَ تَنَامُ قُلُوبُهُمْ، فَلَمْ يُكَلِّمُوهُ حَتَّى احْتَمَلُوهُ فَوَضَعُوهُ عِنْدَ بِئْرِ زَمْزَمَ فَتَوَلاَّهُ مِنْهُمْ جِبْرِيلُ فَشَقَّ جِبْرِيلُ مَا بَيْنَ نَحْرِهِ إِلَى لَبَّتِهِ حَتَّى فَرَغَ مِنْ صَدْرِهِ وَجَوْفِهِ، فَغَسَلَهُ مِنْ مَاءِ زَمْزَمَ بِيَدِهِ، حَتَّى أَنْقَى جَوْفَهُ، ثُمَّ أُتِيَ بِطَسْتٍ مِنْ ذَهَبٍ فِيهِ تَوْرٌ مِنْ ذَهَبٍ مَحْشُوًّا إِيمَانًا وَحِكْمَةً، فَحَشَا بِهِ صَدْرَهُ وَلَغَادِيدَهُ Ù€ يَعْنِي عُرُوقَ حَلْقِهِ Ù€ ثُمَّ أَطْبَقَهُ ثُمَّ عَرَجَ بِهِ إِلَى السَّمَاءِ الدُّنْيَا فَضَرَبَ بَابًا مِنْ أَبْوَابِهَا فَنَادَاهُ أَهْلُ السَّمَاءِ مَنْ هَذَا فَقَالَ جِبْرِيلُ‏.‏ قَالُوا وَمَنْ مَعَكَ قَالَ مَعِي مُحَمَّدٌ‏.‏ قَالَ وَقَدْ بُعِثَ قَالَ نَعَمْ‏.‏ قَالُوا فَمَرْحَبًا بِهِ وَأَهْلاً‏.‏ فَيَسْتَبْشِرُ بِهِ أَهْلُ السَّمَاءِ، لاَ يَعْلَمُ أَهْلُ السَّمَاءِ بِمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ بِهِ فِي الأَرْضِ حَتَّى يُعْلِمَهُمْ، فَوَجَدَ فِي السَّمَاءِ الدُّنْيَا آدَمَ فَقَالَ لَهُ جِبْرِيلُ هَذَا أَبُوكَ فَسَلِّمْ عَلَيْهِ‏.‏ فَسَلَّمَ عَلَيْهِ وَرَدَّ عَلَيْهِ آدَمُ وَقَالَ مَرْحَبًا وَأَهْلاً بِابْنِي، نِعْمَ الاِبْنُ أَنْتَ‏.‏ فَإِذَا هُوَ فِي السَّمَاءِ الدُّنْيَا بِنَهَرَيْنِ يَطَّرِدَانِ فَقَالَ مَا هَذَانِ النَّهَرَانِ يَا جِبْرِيلُ قَالَ هَذَا النِّيلُ وَالْفُرَاتُ عُنْصُرُهُمَا‏.‏ ثُمَّ مَضَى بِهِ فِي السَّمَاءِ فَإِذَا هُوَ بِنَهَرٍ آخَرَ عَلَيْهِ قَصْرٌ مِنْ لُؤْلُؤٍ وَزَبَرْجَدٍ فَضَرَبَ يَدَهُ فَإِذَا هُوَ مِسْكٌ قَالَ مَا هَذَا يَا جِبْرِيلُ قَالَ هَذَا الْكَوْثَرُ الَّذِي خَبَأَ Ù„ÙŽÙƒÙŽ رَبُّكَ‏.‏ ثُمَّ عَرَجَ إِلَى السَّمَاءِ الثَّانِيَةِ فَقَالَتِ الْمَلاَئِكَةُ لَهُ مِثْلَ مَا قَالَتْ لَهُ الأُولَى مَنْ هَذَا قَالَ جِبْرِيلُ‏.‏ قَالُوا وَمَنْ مَعَكَ قَالَ مُحَمَّدٌ صلى الله عليه وسلم‏.‏ قَالُوا وَقَدْ بُعِثَ إِلَيْهِ قَالَ نَعَمْ‏.‏ قَالُوا مَرْحَبًا بِهِ وَأَهْلاً‏.‏ ثُمَّ عَرَجَ بِهِ إِلَى السَّمَاءِ الثَّالِثَةِ وَقَالُوا لَهُ مِثْلَ مَا قَالَتِ الأُولَى وَالثَّانِيَةُ، ثُمَّ عَرَجَ بِهِ إِلَى الرَّابِعَةِ فَقَالُوا لَهُ مِثْلَ ذَلِكَ، ثُمَّ عَرَجَ بِهِ إِلَى السَّمَاءِ الْخَامِسَةِ فَقَالُوا مِثْلَ ذَلِكَ، ثُمَّ عَرَجَ بِهِ إِلَى السَّمَاءِ السَّادِسَةِ فَقَالُوا لَهُ مِثْلَ ذَلِكَ، ثُمَّ عَرَجَ بِهِ إِلَى السَّمَاءِ السَّابِعَةِ فَقَالُوا لَهُ مِثْلَ ذَلِكَ، كُلُّ سَمَاءٍ فِيهَا أَنْبِيَاءُ قَدْ سَمَّاهُمْ فَأَوْعَيْتُ مِنْهُمْ إِدْرِيسَ فِي الثَّانِيَةِ، وَهَارُونَ فِي الرَّابِعَةِ، وَآخَرَ فِي الْخَامِسَةِ لَمْ أَحْفَظِ اسْمَهُ، وَإِبْرَاهِيمَ فِي السَّادِسَةِ، وَمُوسَى فِي السَّابِعَةِ بِتَفْضِيلِ كَلاَمِ اللَّهِ، فَقَالَ مُوسَى رَبِّ لَمْ أَظُنَّ أَنْ يُرْفَعَ عَلَىَّ أَحَدٌ‏.‏ ثُمَّ عَلاَ بِهِ فَوْقَ ذَلِكَ بِمَا لاَ يَعْلَمُهُ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ، حَتَّى جَاءَ سِدْرَةَ الْمُنْتَهَى وَدَنَا الْجَبَّارُ رَبُّ الْعِزَّةِ فَتَدَلَّى حَتَّى كَانَ مِنْهُ قَابَ قَوْسَيْنِ أَوْ أَدْنَى فَأَوْحَى اللَّهُ فِيمَا أَوْحَى إِلَيْهِ خَمْسِينَ صَلاَةً عَلَى أُمَّتِكَ كُلَّ يَوْمٍ وَلَيْلَةٍ‏.‏ ثُمَّ هَبَطَ حَتَّى بَلَغَ مُوسَى فَاحْتَبَسَهُ مُوسَى فَقَالَ يَا مُحَمَّدُ مَاذَا عَهِدَ إِلَيْكَ رَبُّكَ قَالَ عَهِدَ إِلَىَّ خَمْسِينَ صَلاَةً كُلَّ يَوْمٍ وَلَيْلَةٍ‏.‏ قَالَ إِنَّ أُمَّتَكَ لاَ تَسْتَطِيعُ ذَلِكَ فَارْجِعْ فَلْيُخَفِّفْ عَنْكَ رَبُّكَ وَعَنْهُمْ‏.‏ فَالْتَفَتَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم إِلَى جِبْرِيلَ كَأَنَّهُ يَسْتَشِيرُهُ فِي ذَلِكَ، فَأَشَارَ إِلَيْهِ جِبْرِيلُ أَنْ نَعَمْ إِنْ شِئْتَ‏.‏ فَعَلاَ بِهِ إِلَى الْجَبَّارِ فَقَالَ وَهْوَ مَكَانَهُ يَا رَبِّ خَفِّفْ عَنَّا، فَإِنَّ أُمَّتِي لاَ تَسْتَطِيعُ هَذَا‏.‏ فَوَضَعَ عَنْهُ عَشْرَ صَلَوَاتٍ ثُمَّ رَجَعَ إِلَى مُوسَى فَاحْتَبَسَهُ، فَلَمْ يَزَلْ يُرَدِّدُهُ مُوسَى إِلَى رَبِّهِ حَتَّى صَارَتْ إِلَى خَمْسِ صَلَوَاتٍ، ثُمَّ احْتَبَسَهُ مُوسَى عِنْدَ الْخَمْسِ فَقَالَ يَا مُحَمَّدُ وَاللَّهِ لَقَدْ رَاوَدْتُ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ قَوْمِي عَلَى أَدْنَى مِنْ هَذَا فَضَعُفُوا فَتَرَكُوهُ فَأُمَّتُكَ أَضْعَفُ أَجْسَادًا وَقُلُوبًا وَأَبْدَانًا وَأَبْصَارًا وَأَسْمَاعًا، فَارْجِعْ فَلْيُخَفِّفْ عَنْكَ رَبُّكَ، كُلَّ ذَلِكَ يَلْتَفِتُ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم إِلَى جِبْرِيلَ لِيُشِيرَ عَلَيْهِ وَلاَ يَكْرَهُ ذَلِكَ جِبْرِيلُ، فَرَفَعَهُ عِنْدَ الْخَامِسَةِ فَقَالَ يَا رَبِّ إِنَّ أُمَّتِي ضُعَفَاءُ أَجْسَادُهُمْ وَقُلُوبُهُمْ وَأَسْمَاعُهُمْ وَأَبْدَانُهُمْ فَخَفِّفْ عَنَّا فَقَالَ الْجَبَّارُ يَا مُحَمَّدُ‏.‏ قَالَ لَبَّيْكَ وَسَعْدَيْكَ‏.‏ قَالَ إِنَّهُ لاَ يُبَدَّلُ الْقَوْلُ لَدَىَّ، كَمَا فَرَضْتُ عَلَيْكَ فِي أُمِّ الْكِتَابِ Ù€ قَالَ Ù€ فَكُلُّ حَسَنَةٍ بِعَشْرِ أَمْثَالِهَا، فَهْىَ خَمْسُونَ فِي أُمِّ الْكِتَابِ وَهْىَ خَمْسٌ عَلَيْكَ‏.‏ فَرَجَعَ إِلَى مُوسَى فَقَالَ كَيْفَ فَعَلْتَ فَقَالَ خَفَّفَ عَنَّا أَعْطَانَا بِكُلِّ حَسَنَةٍ عَشْرَ أَمْثَالِهَا‏.‏ قَالَ مُوسَى قَدْ وَاللَّهِ رَاوَدْتُ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ عَلَى أَدْنَى مِنْ ذَلِكَ فَتَرَكُوهُ، ارْجِعْ إِلَى رَبِّكَ فَلْيُخَفِّفْ عَنْكَ أَيْضًا‏.‏ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَا مُوسَى قَدْ وَاللَّهِ اسْتَحْيَيْتُ مِنْ رَبِّي مِمَّا اخْتَلَفْتُ إِلَيْهِ‏.‏ قَالَ فَاهْبِطْ بِاسْمِ اللَّهِ‏.‏ قَالَ وَاسْتَيْقَظَ وَهْوَ فِي مَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ‏.


Narrated Anas bin Malik: The night Allah's Messenger (ï·º) was taken for a journey from the sacred mosque (of Mecca) Al-Ka`ba: Three persons came to him (in a dreamy while he was sleeping in the Sacred Mosque before the Divine Inspiration was revealed to Him. One of them said, "Which of them is he?" The middle (second) angel said, "He is the best of them." The last (third) angle said, "Take the best of them." Only that much happened on that night and he did not see them till they came on another night, i.e. after The Divine Inspiration was revealed to him. (Fath-ul-Bari Page 258, Vol. 17) and he saw them, his eyes were asleep but his heart was not----and so is the case with the prophets: their eyes sleep while their hearts do not sleep. So those angels did not talk to him till they carried him and placed him beside the well of Zamzam. From among them Gabriel took charge of him. Gabriel cut open (the part of his body) between his throat and the middle of his chest (heart) and took all the material out of his chest and `Abdomen and then washed it with Zamzam water with his own hands till he cleansed the inside of his body, and then a gold tray containing a gold bowl full of belief and wisdom was brought and then Gabriel stuffed his chest and throat blood vessels with it and then closed it (the chest). He then ascended with him to the heaven of the world and knocked on one of its doors. The dwellers of the Heaven asked, 'Who is it?' He said, "Gabriel." They said, "Who is accompanying you?" He said, "Muhammad." They said, "Has he been called?" He said, "Yes" They said, "He is welcomed." So the dwellers of the Heaven became pleased with his arrival, and they did not know what Allah would do to the Prophet (ï·º) on earth unless Allah informed them. The Prophet (ï·º) met Adam over the nearest Heaven. Gabriel said to the Prophet, "He is your father; greet him." The Prophet (ï·º) greeted him and Adam returned his greeting and said, "Welcome, O my Son! O what a good son you are!" Behold, he saw two flowing rivers, while he was in the nearest sky. He asked, "What are these two rivers, O Gabriel?" Gabriel said, "These are the sources of the Nile and the Euphrates." Then Gabriel took him around that Heaven and behold, he saw another river at the bank of which there was a palace built of pearls and emerald. He put his hand into the river and found its mud like musk Adhfar. He asked, "What is this, O Gabriel?" Gabriel said, "This is the Kauthar which your Lord has kept for you." Then Gabriel ascended (with him) to the second Heaven and the angels asked the same questions as those on the first Heaven, i.e., "Who is it?" Gabriel replied, "Gabriel". They asked, "Who is accompanying you?" He said, "Muhammad." They asked, "Has he been sent for?" He said, "Yes." Then they said, "He is welcomed.'' Then he (Gabriel) ascended with the Prophet (ï·º) to the third Heaven, and the angels said the same as the angels of the first and the second Heavens had said. Then he ascended with him to the fourth Heaven and they said the same; and then he ascended with him to the fifth Heaven and they said the same; and then he ascended with him to the sixth Heaven and they said the same; then he ascended with him to the seventh Heaven and they said the same. On each Heaven there were prophets whose names he had mentioned and of whom I remember Idris on the second Heaven, Aaron on the fourth Heavens another prophet whose name I don't remember, on the fifth Heaven, Abraham on the sixth Heaven, and Moses on the seventh Heaven because of his privilege of talking to Allah directly. Moses said (to Allah), "O Lord! I thought that none would be raised up above me." But Gabriel ascended with him (the Prophet) for a distance above that, the distance of which only Allah knows, till he reached the Lote Tree (beyond which none may pass) and then the Irresistible, the Lord of Honor and Majesty approached and came closer till he (Gabriel) was about two bow lengths or (even) nearer. (It is said that it was Gabriel who approached and came closer to the Prophet. (Fate Al-Bari Page 263, 264, Vol. 17). Among the things which Allah revealed to him then, was: "Fifty prayers were enjoined on his followers in a day and a night." Then the Prophet (ï·º) descended till he met Moses, and then Moses stopped him and asked, "O Muhammad ! What did your Lord en join upon you?" The Prophet (ï·º) replied," He enjoined upon me to perform fifty prayers in a day and a night." Moses said, "Your followers cannot do that; Go back so that your Lord may reduce it for you and for them." So the Prophet (ï·º) turned to Gabriel as if he wanted to consult him about that issue. Gabriel told him of his opinion, saying, "Yes, if you wish." So Gabriel ascended with him to the Irresistible and said while he was in his place, "O Lord, please lighten our burden as my followers cannot do that." So Allah deducted for him ten prayers where upon he returned to Moses who stopped him again and kept on sending him back to his Lord till the enjoined prayers were reduced to only five prayers. Then Moses stopped him when the prayers had been reduced to five and said, "O Muhammad! By Allah, I tried to persuade my nation, Bani Israel to do less than this, but they could not do it and gave it up. However, your followers are weaker in body, heart, sight and hearing, so return to your Lord so that He may lighten your burden." The Prophet (ï·º) turned towards Gabriel for advice and Gabriel did not disapprove of that. So he ascended with him for the fifth time. The Prophet (ï·º) said, "O Lord, my followers are weak in their bodies, hearts, hearing and constitution, so lighten our burden." On that the Irresistible said, "O Muhammad!" the Prophet replied, "Labbaik and Sa`daik." Allah said, "The Word that comes from Me does not change, so it will be as I enjoined on you in the Mother of the Book." Allah added, "Every good deed will be rewarded as ten times so it is fifty (prayers) in the Mother of the Book (in reward) but you are to perform only five (in practice)." The Prophet (ï·º) returned to Moses who asked, "What have you done?" He said, "He has lightened our burden: He has given us for every good deed a tenfold reward." Moses said, "By Allah! I tried to make Bani Israel observe less than that, but they gave it up. So go back to your Lord that He may lighten your burden further." Allah's Messenger (ï·º) said, "O Moses! By Allah, I feel shy of returning too many times to my Lord." On that Gabriel said, "Descend in Allah's Name." The Prophet (ï·º) then woke while he was in the Sacred Mosque (at Mecca). [Bukhari]

 

Note 3 fundamental differences between the incidents of this Hadeeth and what we normally know of Isra’ and Mi‘raaj:

  1. Difference 1: This happened in at least 2 (may be more) nights while the physical ascension which the Qur’aan refers to (see response 3) happened in ONE NIGHT (categorical verse of the Qur’aan)
  2. Difference 2: There is no mention of Isra (travel to Masjidul Aqsa) in this narration which the Qur’aan refers to (see response 3) categorically
  3. Difference 3: There is no Buraaq mentioned herein i.e. the mode of transport is not mentioned and judging by the words of the narration there is every possibility that this is another Journey.

It is therefore the opinion of Ulama that our was blessed with Miraj NOT ONCE but multiple times.

Response 6: Qadiyani Deception about sighting of Allah (SWT) and linking it to Isra & Miraj

Qadiyanees then try to further convolute and confuse the issue by presenting the Hadeeth about (physical) sighting of Allah (SWT) with the event of Isra & Miraj, lets produce the Hadeeth in full:

حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى، حَدَّثَنَا وَكِيعٌ، عَنْ إِسْمَاعِيلَ بْنِ أَبِي خَالِدٍ، عَنْ عَامِرٍ، عَنْ مَسْرُوقٍ، قَالَ قُلْتُ لِعَائِشَةَ Ù€ رضى الله عنها Ù€ يَا أُمَّتَاهْ هَلْ رَأَى مُحَمَّدٌ صلى الله عليه وسلم رَبَّهُ فَقَالَتْ لَقَدْ قَفَّ شَعَرِي مِمَّا قُلْتَ، أَيْنَ أَنْتَ مِنْ ثَلاَثٍ مَنْ حَدَّثَكَهُنَّ فَقَدْ كَذَبَ، مَنْ حَدَّثَكَ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا صلى الله عليه وسلم رَأَى رَبَّهُ فَقَدْ كَذَبَ‏.‏ ثُمَّ قَرَأَتْ ‏

‏لاَ تُدْرِكُهُ الأَبْصَارُ وَهُوَ يُدْرِكُ الأَبْصَارَ وَهُوَ اللَّطِيفُ الْخَبِيرُ‏
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‏وَمَا كَانَ لِبَشَرٍ أَنْ يُكَلِّمَهُ اللَّهُ إِلاَّ وَحْيًا أَوْ مِنْ وَرَاءِ حِجَابٍ‏
‏ وَمَنْ حَدَّثَكَ أَنَّهُ يَعْلَمُ مَا فِي غَدٍ فَقَدْ كَذَبَ ثُمَّ قَرَأَتْ ‏
‏وَمَا تَدْرِي نَفْسٌ مَاذَا تَكْسِبُ غَدًا‏
‏ وَمَنْ حَدَّثَكَ أَنَّهُ كَتَمَ فَقَدْ كَذَبَ ثُمَّ قَرَأَتْ ‏
‏يَا أَيُّهَا الرَّسُولُ بَلِّغْ مَا أُنْزِلَ إِلَيْكَ مِنْ رَبِّكَ‏
‏ الآيَةَ، وَلَكِنَّهُ رَأَى جِبْرِيلَ Ù€ عَلَيْهِ السَّلاَمُ Ù€ فِي صُورَتِهِ مَرَّتَيْنِ‏.‏

Narrated Masruq:I said to `Aisha, "O Mother! Did Prophet Muhammad see his Lord?" Aisha said, "What you have said makes my hair stand on end ! Know that if somebody tells you one of the following three things, he is a liar: Whoever tells you that Muhammad saw his Lord, is a liar." Then Aisha recited the Verse: 'No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision. He is the Most Courteous Well-Acquainted with all things.' (6.103) 'It is not fitting for a human being that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration or from behind a veil.' (42.51) `Aisha further said, "And whoever tells you that the Prophet knows what is going to happen tomorrow, is a liar." She then recited: 'No soul can know what it will earn tomorrow.' (31.34) She added: "And whoever tell you that he concealed (some of Allah's orders), is a liar." Then she recited: 'O Apostle! Proclaim (the Message) which has been sent down to you from your Lord..' (5.67) `Aisha added. "But the Prophet (ï·º) saw Gabriel in his true form twice." [Bukhari]

This hadeeth has NOTHING to do with Isra or Miraj at all! On the issue of physical sighting of Allah (SWT) Darul-uloom Deoband responds:

This is an issue on which there is difference of opinion. According to Hadhrat ibn Abbas [r.a], Hadhrat Abu Zar [r.a] and one group of Ulama, Prophet [s.a.w] did see Allah on the night of Miraj. Then according to group from the above group, Prophet [s.a.w] saw Allah with naked eyes while other group says it was with the eye of the heart.

According to Hadhrat Aisha [r.a], Hadhrat Anas [r.a] and a a group of Ulama are of the opinion that Prophet [s.a.w] didn't see Allah on the night of Miraj. In conclusion, there is no clear cut proof regarding this issue and nothing can be said with certainty.

and Allah knows best.

Response 7: Qadiyani Deception about how can Prophets Pray?

We (Muslims) believe that the Prophets (AS) are alive in their grave and they pray and there are many narrations on this matter but here is one example:

أنس بن مالك رضي الله عنه أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم قال : الأنبياء أحياء في قبورهم يصلون

Sayyidina Anas (RA) narrates that said that the Prophets are alive in their graves and they pray [Bazzar]

If we believe that the Journey of Isra and Miraj was PHYSICAL then we have no problems believing that Allah (SWT) gathered all of the Prophets in Masjidul-Aqsa.

The problem with Qadiyanees is that since they are not Muslims they have difficulty digesting M-I-R-A-C-L-E-S so they keep hatching up on (silly) argument after another.

After replying to so many of silly Qadiyanee arguments; I am bored now! :P

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#53 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2015 18:57
Syyed Salman Gilani sahb very funny (Urdu) poetry about Mal'oon Mirza Qadiyani.


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#54 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2015 18:58
What he said in this^^ poem is fact.
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#55 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2015 19:16
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this is the kind of stuff the Jews of madinah did. Disgusting behavior
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#56 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 04:46
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Moulana! This poem just proves the lose character of mirza and these are all facts. Ambiya a.s are ma'asoom, with high character, akhlaq etc. But Mirza was adulterer,used abusive language (there is a complete book 'mughlzat e mirza' that compiled his abusive language), he was also mentally retarded. He also easily lay in his daily life. He even swindled prostitutes. Then why not unveil his character? If it is allowed in nasar/prose then why not in nazam/poetry?
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#57 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 05:06
Asking this just for my islah with no intention of argumentation. Gustakhi ma'af.
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#58 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 09:33
السلام عليكم

I didn't read this fact before (underlined). Can anyone cite reference please? It will be an excellent answer to whole Qadiyanism.

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#59 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 10:12
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This "mubahila" and some others are mentioned in part 1 of book "Tohfa e Qadiyaniat" by moulana Muhammad Yousaf Ludhyanwi RhA.
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#60 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2015 07:28
salam

I think its good to restriction who can post in this thread so only knowledgeable will be able to engage in the discussion..
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