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#136 [Permalink] Posted on 26th September 2015 18:37
Are all owaisi tariqat in the world obsessed with dreams khasf ilham?
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#137 [Permalink] Posted on 26th September 2015 19:33
Below is a brief commentory and actual translation of Shaykh Ahmed Sirhindi mujadid alfe sani , who basically explains how having kashf does not make one any better than the other , thought was relevant to this thread

"The Mujaddid here explains why mystic visions and unveilings that some Sufis experience are ultimately valueless. Many sufi aspirants experience many other-worldly visions and states, sees lights and colors and realizes other-worldly knowledge. Many others do not. But when they reach the destination, which is God-realization, none of these two groups have any superiority over each other.
With respect to their states (halat), the aspirants can be divided into two groups:
1. Either he will have unveilings (kashf) and knowledge (ma`rifat)
2. Or he will be the ignorant and bewildered (arbab-i jahl va hayrat).
But after traversing (ti) the waystations (manazil) and upveiling the veils (hizb), both of these groups “arrive on” [the same destination]. No group can claim an advantage (maziyat) over the other group in that “arrival.”

Now the Mujaddid employs an analogy to explain why these two groups have the same rank.
It is like when two individuals who reach the Kaaba from a distant place. One of them comes seeing all the interesting things (tamasha) [beside the road] from that place of departure. And he understands (danistan) those things as much as he can understand. And the other individual comes with both of his eyes closed understanding (ittila`) nothing on the road from the place of departure.
On the matter of arriving at the Kaaba, both individuals are equal and neither one has any superiority (ziyadati) in this arrival over the other, although there is a great difference between them in learning about the places onthe road (manazil-i rah).
Regardless of to whichever group the sufi belongs, he becomes ignorant and bewildered (jhl, hayrat) when he realizes God. Then he realizes that he knows nothing about God and he could never know God.
However, once they have reached (rasidan) the destination, both of them definitely (dharuri) become ignorant (jahl). It is because when one truly knows (ma`rifat) the person (dhat) of Allah, he realizes that he knows nothing about Him and that he can never know Him (ma`rifat)."

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#138 [Permalink] Posted on 26th September 2015 19:52
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SubhanAllah !

Great post. May Allah bless you !
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#139 [Permalink] Posted on 27th September 2015 03:55
الانتباہ فی سلاسل اولیاءاللہ کے صفحہ نمبر 30 پر میں نے پڑھا ہے کہ خواجہ نقشبند نے روحانی فیض خواجہ عبدالخالق سے حاصل کیا ان کی موت کے بعد. اور شیخ ابو علی نے خوجہ ابو الحسن خرقانی کی روح سے فیض حاصل کیا, ان کی موت کے بعد, اور ابو الحسن خرقانی نے روحانی فیض حضرت بایزید بسطامی کی روح سے اخذ کیا. باطنی طریقہ سے نہ ظاہری طریقہ سے, کیونکہ بایزید بسطامی کی وفات حضرت ابو الحسن خرقانی کی پیدائش سے مدت مدیدہ پہلے ہو چکی تھی اور حضرت بایزید بسطامی نے فیض روحانی, روح سیدنا امام جعفر صادق جو سیدنا موسی کاظم کے فرزند ہیں, ان سے بطریق باطنی لیا, نہ کہ بطریق ظاہر. کیونکہ بایزید بسطامی کی پیدائش بعد مدت مدیدہ امام جعفر سے ہوئی اور اسی طرح حضرت قاسم نے نے حضرت سلمان فاسی کے روح سے فیض حاصل کیا. اور یہ فیض ممکن ہی نہیں ہے بغیر باطنی روحانی کے.
کیا کوئی عالم مجھے یہ بتا سکتا ہے کہ یہ کیسے ممکن ہے؟ ان سب نے بغیر ظاہری وسیلہ کے روح سے اخذ فیض کیسے حاصل کر لیا. انہوں نے اپنے زمانے کے علماء کو اس بات کے کیا ثبوت پیش کئے. اب اہل قبور بزگ قبروں سے نکل کر عوم الناس کے سامنے ان بزرگوں کو خلافت دینے اور دستاربندی کرنے سے رہے...
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#140 [Permalink] Posted on 27th September 2015 19:42
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I don't know about that, but some of us seem to be obsessed about it over here. We are obsessed with those discussions which involve an underground* aspect to it.

*Those discussions which only a select few can know about; stuff that cannot be found in conventional texts but have to be mastered by the chosen ones.
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#141 [Permalink] Posted on 27th September 2015 19:45
Amazingly we would have thought the chosen ones are the ashaab. (May Allah be pleased with all of them)
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#142 [Permalink] Posted on 28th September 2015 05:37
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Yes true !

If such 'questions' did not exist,we would not be discussing them today. Where there is a 'question' there is an urge to find an answer,sometimes we succeed,mostly we fail.....

Islam in itself is a very simple Din. I wish we had remained content with what Allah and his Rasool pbuh has told us. But history tells us that we have a tendency to jump into philosophical discussions and try to unlock the occult mysteries.

In our good times we translated the 'Greek philosophy' into Arabic which created 'questions' prompting Uluma to find an 'answer' to them,as a result we found ourself involved in the complex discussions of ZAT and SIFAT, how the creation was created by the creator,Wahdat ul wujood and then as a reaction to that Wahdat us shuhood etc.

We conveniently forgot that Knowing or experiencing those things was NOT a criteria on which we will be judged in Akhera. The criteria was IMAN and AMAL E SALEH.

The truth is simple and straightforward, may be our own minds are twisted.
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#143 [Permalink] Posted on 12th February 2020 20:32
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Khwaja Abdul Rahim from LANGAR MAKHDOOM was the Physical Shaikh of Molana Allah Yar Khan
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#144 [Permalink] Posted on 13th February 2020 12:09
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