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You may not have meant it, but your post gives the impression as if the strike call by Maulana is ‘ ‘in response’ to the speech !
That is not the case...
Maulana has been against IK since long, after elections he did not accept the results and suggested that the opposition should not take oath as members of the assembly. He has announced his intention of a sit in many months ago, and since then has held very successful rallies for mobilising masses for it in 15 different cities of Pakistan, attracting huge crowds of his followers. Only the date is announced recently. It has nothing to do with UNGA speech or the current developments in Kashmir....
When Imran Khan speaks in the UN he is Maulana's Prime Minister too. Maulana's opposition should have ceased the moment Imran Khan left for the UN. After the speech the Maulana must have been graceful enough to appreciate it. At the most he must have shut up and even that would be in bad faith.
And faith is the issue here. That the Maulana has been opposing Imran Khan for long is in itself simply bad faith. Elections do take place in democracies and so many times those people get elected whom we do not like. Unless the elected person is like our Prime Minister there should not be this long standing animosity towards Imran Khan just because he got elected as the PM. Add to it the fact that Imran Khan waited for so long in a most graceful manner.
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I kept writing, and although my posts are not worth reading or remembering , still if by chance you happened to read them, i repeatedly wrote in my posts.“Despite all the good intentions etc IK does not have the required capabilities to fulfil his agenda”...
I do read your posts and in particular I had made the intention to reply to your comments about the contributions of the people like Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. sadly time and energy simply do not permit me to do as much as I want to do and as much as has to be done. That is why I keep requesting my brothers and sisters to share my burden.
Coming to lack of Imran Khan's capabilities. Please remember this itself is not in good faith to start your argument with the assertion that Imran Khan does not have the capabilities to implement his agenda.
In case of Mr Modi in India we have seen what a disastrous manager of economic affairs he has proved to be and how inapt he is in dealing with the foreign dignitaries and how abjectly he sits in the lap of the oligarchs and how shamelessly the Saffron agenda of Muslim lynching went on in his government. This is the type of evidence that one needs before passing on the judgement that Imran Khan is incompetent.
I am not very good at matters social and matters economic and hence I find it very difficult to comment on those. And it does not help that my experience can not be first hand but having said that I have not found any significant news on his inaptness in matters economic and social management.
And that where I am flabbergasted at your aversion to Imran Khan. I would understand it if your focus was the fact that Imran Khan was ignoring Chinese atrocities against Uyghur Muslims.
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One may see many good things in his dreams, but when one wakes up to the realities, one finds them starkly different..
My brother some things do start by dreaming a rosy picture and it is distressing that you want to deny that to Imran Khan in particular and Pakistan in general. please understand that you have to give him a decent chance. That unfortunately you have not done.
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Imran khan refuses to wake up, and it seems now it is too late for him :(
Again I fail to understand that when he has given such a wonderful performance in international diplomacy it becomes a monumental evidence against him.
For Maulana Fazl-ur-Rahman I do understand that he is simply playing the tune that is soothing to his financiers - the US but about you I fail to understand. You are too young to feel a competitive jealousy, too young to get a sixth sense about real life experiences and I doubt that you are influential enough to be bought by the CIA. Yet you are inexplicably inclined towards the Maulana whom the circumstances tell us to be wary of and you are inclined against Khan Sahab who might be the best thing that has happened to the Muslim Ummah after Jinnah.
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It is unfortunate to watch that the advisers of IK are still suggesting to him that every thing is fine and Maulana does not have the required strength to do it... For from it, Maulana is not only very well prepared, have motivated and prepared his youth, rehearsed it 15 times, and now feels confident enough to announce the date.
I am not convinced about Maulana's reliability, well prepared he might be. He better be well prepared so as to answer to those who finance him.
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I am not a Maulana lover. I voted for PTI candidate, and I still have hopes in IK, the problem is, IK himself seems to have lost all interest. He was a fighter but the way he blissfully ignored this ‘political threat’ can only be defined as ‘overconfidence’ or ‘ignorance’ or ‘share stupidity’. This could have been handled politically, and it is still possible. A businessman and a politician, both can not afford to be arrogant...
Brother either you support Maulana or Imran Khan. And you better make your mind clear about it. It helps.
It is very inconvenient to have a state of indecision. For example I was in state of indecision about Uncle-Nephew duo of Jamiat-e-Ulema-e-Hind Maulana Arshad Madani and Maulana Mahmood Madani. It was a difficult situation for me. Only now the picture is becoming slightly clear. I can not trust these two Maulanas too.
And please understand I do enormous benefit of doubt to people. For example I have decided to accept bot Kaleem Siddiqui Sahab of Phulat and Pir Zulfiqar Ahmed Sahab Naqshbandi in spite of controversial reports about them.
But three Maulanas that I have mentioned earlier are completely out for me.
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If IK was up-to his status, he would have known that so far his government is a total failure, his personal popularity has declined, the economy has gone down, the rupee is drastically devalued, the inflation rate has jumped from 3.2 to double figures and the people are feeling the pinch of it. It is not that he has not borrowed money, he has taken loans not only from IMF but from Saudi, UAE, Qatar, China and world bank. If the previous governments had taken loans, they had kept prices in control and fought wars in FATA and Karachi, had almost managed the load shedding etc. We have yet to see any constructive measures in the pipeline by this government, leave alone on the ground. His party and his cabinet is in disarray....
Fine. all this might go against him. So far it has not. Kindly do go against him but my brother I am not still convinced by your evidence and arguments. And even if Maulana Fazl-ur-rahman manages to throw some mud at him I am not going to be a fan of the Maulana. There is too much circumstantial evidence against him.
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Can his one speech in UNGA, make him a perfect politician or prime minister ? Hardly.
I suppose at this stage I must divulge to you that the west will take at least six months to the new reality that he has created. And that is a lot. The only other significant progress in the affairs of Muslim Ummah in last fifty years has been the ones by the Taliban.
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I repeat, speeches are made and forgotten. Jamal Abdul Nasir was a much better orator than IK, so was Saddam. IK made one strategic blunder on Kashmir, HE RULED OUT WAR WITH INDIA ON THE ISSUE, only a ‘threat’ of war could have made international community listen to him. He gives threat of war ‘if Pakistan is attacked’. There was hardly any chance left for India to withdraw its decisions on Kashmir. Today, if someone blames him for a sellout on Kashmir please don’t reject him off hand, there is substance in it....
I am sorry I do not agree nor I am taking your advice. I apologize that we have a rather biggish difference of opinion.
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Sorry for all the above, but I had a feeling you are not fully in picture...
Thank you for the reminder but I still do not agree.
