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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 11:17
www.nytimes.com/2025/05/09/opinion/trump-iran-israel.html

This Israeli Government Is Not Our Ally
May 9, 2025


By Thomas L. Friedman
Opinion Columnist

Dear President Trump,

There are very few initiatives that you’ve undertaken since coming to office that I agree with — except in the Middle East. The fact that you are traveling there next week and meeting the leaders of Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar — and that you have no plans to see Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Israel — suggests to me that you are starting to understand a vital truth: that this Israeli government is behaving in ways that threaten hard-core U.S. interests in the region. Netanyahu is not our friend.

He did think he could make you his chump, though. Which is why I am impressed by how you have signaled to him through your independent negotiations with Hamas, Iran and the Houthis that he has no purchase on you — that you will not be his patsy. It clearly has him in a panic.

I have no doubt that, generally speaking, the Israeli people continue to see themselves as steadfast allies of the American people — and vice versa. But this ultranationalist, messianic Israeli government is not America’s ally. Because this is the first government in Israel’s history whose priority is not peace with more of its Arab neighbors and the benefits that greater security and coexistence would bring. Its priority is the annexation of the West Bank, the expulsion of the Palestinians of Gaza and the re-establishment there of Israeli settlements.

The notion that Israel has a government that is no longer behaving as an American ally, and should not be considered as such, is a shocking and bitter pill for Israel’s friends in Washington to swallow — but swallow it they must.

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 11:23
‘Honey, he’s had enough of you’: Trump’s Mideast moves increasingly seem to sideline Israel

www.timesofisrael.com/honey-hes-had-enough-of-you-trumps-...

After campaigning on his backing for Israel, analysts say US president no longer taking Netanyahu into account amid series of decisions that suggest shift from first term policies

“Trump is signaling to Netanyahu, ’Honey, I’ve had enough of you,’” Israeli commentator Dana Fahn Luzon said on a TV debate this week over Trump’s recent deal with the Houthi terror group, which has been firing missiles at Israel. “That he didn’t update us, that he couldn’t say it … He doesn’t take Netanyahu into account.”

A shift soon began to emerge, and has accelerated in recent weeks:

  • In March, a US negotiator entered direct talks with Hamas. The talks quickly ended after they did not achieve their intended goal, a hostage release, but they were unprecedented.
  • On April 7, as Netanyahu traveled to the White House in what he said was a bid to remove US tariffs on Israeli imports, Trump announced they would remain for the time being.
  • During the White House visit, Trump announced that the United States would conduct direct negotiations with Iran, Israel’s chief adversary and Netanyahu’s bête noire.
  • Some reports from those negotiations indicate that they may result in something similar to the Obama-era Iran deal, which Netanyahu loathed.
  • Weeks later, Axios reported that on his first foreign trip next week, Trump hoped to hold a summit with Arab states — and not Israel, which he currently has no plans to visit.
  • Then, on May 6, Trump announced that the United States and the Houthi terror group in Yemen had reached a truce — without requiring the Houthis to stop attacking Israel. Israeli officials were reportedly surprised by the deal, and Netanyahu vowed to “defend ourselves alone.”
  • Trump has also reportedly pressured Israel to let aid into Gaza, following a two-month stoppage.
  • On Thursday, Reuters reported that Trump was no longer demanding that Saudi Arabia recognize Israel as part of a broader pact with the United States — leaving a deal that would have been Netanyahu’s holy grail by the wayside.
  • Finally, on Friday, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth scrapped his planned Israel trip to instead accompany Trump on his Middle East sojourn.


Critics and supporters of Netanyahu and Trump alike are noticing. On Thursday, the front page of Yediot Aharonot, an Israeli daily seen as critical of Netanyahu, blared that Trump had a “policy of surprises” when it came to Israel.

“The Americans are advancing a deal with the Saudis, advancing a deal with Iran, advancing a new regional outline… but the Americans don’t take Netanyahu or Israel into account,” tweeted Yair Golan, head of The Democrats left-wing party. “President Trump, whom Netanyahu saw as a strategic partner for his survival, understands today that Netanyahu isn’t an asset but a liability.”

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 12:02
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 12:19
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Yawn, getting boring now.

They remain as one.
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 12:25
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But we must not forget what the Quran tells us!

Loading Qur'aan Verse

So, I would hold back that yawn :)
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 12:33
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Emanuel Macron after months of supporting Israel with weapons:

"What Benjamin Netanyahu is doing in Gaza is a DISGRACE.

"It's a tragedy and it's horrible," says Emmanuel Macron about the situation in Gaza.

He asserts that "it's not up to [him]" to call it a genocide, but rather up to specialists and historians.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 14:11
If this is indeed true, the world might see another "JFK" happening.
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 14:46
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They are not christians.
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 14:52
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Could be!

But we can only hope for a good outcome.

Could also be possible that this is a hype to get Saudi deals and then Trump comes out of his closet. We remain positive inshaAllah

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Neither are Christians, real Christians. It is what it is.

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 16:54
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Trump will say what you want to hear then go against everyone, just ask the arab/muslim voters in teh US who voted for him.
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 17:08
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 20:19
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Khalissee
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TRUMP: “Gaza’s leader take delight in raping, murdering and torturing innocent people. Can’t have it.”

Israelis are the ONLY ones who've been PROVEN to rape and torturing innocent people

It was all an act. Trump is a fraud
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 20:49
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I have seen these as well. But let's see how things progress (some old tweets will resurface for and against)
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 22:04
"When Someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time"
Maya Angelou.
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 22:11

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The khaleejis just gave America a one trillion reward for committing a genocide


Actually it's closer to 2 so far, with Saudi and Qatar combined and he has not even landed in U.A.E. yet.
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