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#61 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd November 2023 14:37
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In the last few days and as cited by the Israeli publication, Haaretz has admitted their Apache helicopter gunships carried out indiscriminate attack.

The thing is no one has really pushed Morgan to provide independent evidence for his claims. I thought Hijab would and he did to a very limited extent, in his first appearance but he seemed too busy presenting academic arguments of International law, UN resolutions. Of which the average viewer does not care a jot about.

Andrew Tate did a good job of throwing Morgans accusations back in his face.

But the atrocity propaganda has not been challenged. Unfortunately we are not fully organised like the Zionists in countering propaganda.

The Zionists have a principle that not a single claim goes unchallenged. Even when they blatantly guilty and exposed they still lie and challenge.

And we do not have anyone really great in dealing with the media .The American Muslims have three or four but in U.K. we are lagging behind.

Impression. I am getting is that so far the best presenters of counter arguments have been non-Muslims. We have white American and European teenagers fact checking and countering the propaganda better then we are.

I also find it Dis-concerting, that Muslim reps are going on TV and then giving them selves a victory lap afterwards. For one or two good points despite a poor performance overall.
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#62 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd November 2023 14:55
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The Zionists have a system put in place, that is often found in the Corporate world. That is you review your performance or you have a team that reviews or you do both. See how well you did and how to counter a point better the next time. They train, review and practice over and over again. That’s why their appearances seem very synchronised with each other.

And as Muslims everything we are doing is more ad-hoc or on the fly.
The reason is we don’t have people trained and employed full time to do this. Propaganda management costs a lot of money.

Secondly they the Zionists make sure no claim goes unchallenged. they will challenge even the most absurd things. And try to reframe everything.

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#63 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd November 2023 15:39
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Alhumdulillah, Muslims don't need propaganda.

They (The non-Muslims) plot and plan but Allah is the Best of Planners!

Where the Muslims fail is when they have Wahn. When they are disobedient. Where they buy one lie, they get sold all the others and turn a blind eye. Hence we pick up on their lies and keep talking about it until it gets through and apparent. Repeat the truth over and over and let those who shout, "You still on about it" eat their own words with time!

Allah didn't shy away from repeating Himself. When He wanted something to be drilled in, He repeated it over and over and over
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Over and over and over again

How many times did Allah have to repeat it, yet we still deny many of His favours

We need to pick up and rip the lies apart until the truth is not just known, but accepted as the final outcome. Until the liars are exposed and await their punishment by the law or in the hereafter.
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#64 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd November 2023 15:55
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You misunderstood what I meant was Muslims need to effectively counter propaganda.

And what I meant by Propaganda management, is challenging and countering the lies and deceptions of the enemy.
( how ever I should have separated the two sentences to avoid confusion)

The Zionists use Propaganda dissemination, and disinformation and the muslims in turn need a propaganda management strategy in order to expose their lies.

We cannot just sit around and let the Zionists get away with lie after lie and fabricated atrocity propaganda in order to justify their genocide.
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#65 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd November 2023 15:57
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#67 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd November 2023 14:12
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#68 [Permalink] Posted on 25th November 2023 00:35
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#69 [Permalink] Posted on 25th November 2023 01:46
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youtu.be/oTDG2OzyYg0?feature=shared

Here is Hijabs analysis and review of his performance, on Piers Morgan show. The debate with Rabbi Schmulley.
He still thinks arguing points of international law is the way to debate.and the reason he did not use words like genocide and ethnic cleansing are, because somebody could rebuff those claims by saying the Israelis actions don’t meet the international law definition, of genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Sounds completely absurd to me, considering neither Schmulley nor Piers Morgan were too concerned with those things. And we’re happy to throw out fabricated and unverified claims. Let alone claims that meet certain academic standards.

Nor have the western media,or politicians been too bothered about calling Russian actions in Ukraine as Genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Piers Morgan show is a propaganda and entertainment channel, not an Academic arena. Morgan himself in programme uses “ I believe” and “ I feel” and “ I think” etc. As justification for what he is saying rather then any academic or journalistic standard. Not sure who is advising Hijab. But when you get an opportunity to appear on a huge platform
You have to use words like “genocide” “ethnic cleansing” repeatedly.

Even professor Norman Finkelsten did not bother with such academic and intellectual semantics.

Just unapologetically said things as they are, in his fiery defence of the Palestinians with Morgan.
And refused to condemn Hamas or the Palestinians.
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#70 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2023 11:06
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#71 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2023 12:48
GBNews called each and every prisoner of Israel, A convicted terrorist!

Even children under 10 are convicted terrorists.

Whilst many MSM were pro covid narrative, GBNews were mostly anti vaccine. Whereas the tables have now turned. GBNews have been very pro lies. They are even using Al Jazeera as false evidence to prove their fake narrative (completely out of context and lies) unbelievable pro Israeli

Many MSM outlets have slowly started to expose the lies and propaganda (most probably for PR ratings)

twitter.com/realstewpeters/status/1728617202251899157?t=h...

These are not terrorists but they get tortured beyond belief!
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#72 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2023 14:22
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#73 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2023 22:12
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#74 [Permalink] Posted on 27th November 2023 17:56
twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1729185397303914672?t=R...

BREAKING: LETTER FROM ISRAELI HOSTAGE TO HAMAS

“To the generals who have accompanied me in recent weeks, it seems we will part ways tomorrow, but I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your extraordinary humanity shown towards my daughter, Emilia.

You were like parents to her, inviting her into your rooms whenever she desired. She acknowledges feeling like all of you are her friends, not just friends, but truly beloved and good.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for the many hours you spent as caregivers.

Thank you for being patient with her and showering her with sweets, fruits, and everything available even when it was not.

Children should not be in captivity, but thanks to you and other kind people we met along the way, my daughter felt like a queen in Gaza...

In general, she acknowledges feeling like the center of the world. She hasn't met anyone on our long journey, from the rank and file to the leadership, who didn't treat her with gentleness, affection, and love.

I will forever be a prisoner of gratitude because she did not leave here with a lifelong psychological trauma. I will remember your kind behavior, granted here despite the difficult situation you were dealing with yourselves and the severe losses you suffered here in Gaza. I wish in this world we could truly be good friends.

I wish you all health and well-being... Health and love to you and your families' children.

Many thanks.

Danyal and Emilia"
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#75 [Permalink] Posted on 28th November 2023 15:22
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I'm picking up nothing but Subliminal Messaging from Elon Musk!
“On the Gaza situation there is no choice but to kill those who insist on murdering civilians"
"Change the education so that the new generation of murderers is not trained to be murderers"
"To build prosperity"

Then he shares this and many more things that have multiple meanings
x.com/elonmusk/status/1729511790638145918?s=20

What is on his mind (except for the sponsors)?
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