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#151 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2024 14:57

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Rasulullah SAS or Hazrat Abu Bakr RA or Hazrat umar RA (during his initial period) didn't challenge Roman and Persian empires.

They waited for compatibility. (not 100%)

If the goal is to achieve rewards in aakhirath through martyrdom then it is guaranteed, but victory in duniya, we need eternal sabr.

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#152 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2024 15:19

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the power change in New Delhi from Manmohan singh to Modi has brought change in kashmiri struggle, Why? They know who is in power now.

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#153 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2024 15:49

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I could counter every point you are making. But I cannot be bothered, I am too old too tired. And its pointless to argue with someone who has already made up their mind.
No matter how erroneous their argument.

From what I can tell your premise is muslims are too weak to do anything so they should accept whatever fate befalls them they should do nothing. They should not put trust in ALLAH because ALLAH will not help them. They should not do mujahidah and struggle against the oppressors they will only make their situation worse.

If the oppressors want to take their land, demolish their homes, drive them out, steal their wealth and resources, kill their families, imprison and torture them, rape their wives and daughters. Demolish their mosques ban the practice of their religion.They should humbly accept it.

I am just glad that the sahabah and all the succeeding generations in the last 1400 plus years did not have your mindset. Otherwise Islam as a religion and muslims as a people would be extinct and no longer exist.

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#154 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2024 18:02

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You are responding to typical tablighi mentality, I'm sorry to say.

When it suits them, they'll remind us of 950 years of Nuh عليه السلام and the trials of Yunus عليه السلام Yusuf عليه السلام Musa عليه السلام and so on.

When it comes to Qital? Need I say more?

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#155 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2024 18:18

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Tablighis also train the way qital trainers do and prepare for khurooj. They even use the persecution of phalestenians for tashkeel of khurooj, they say, we need lot of duas so let us go on khurooj and wake up in tahajjud and do dua. And this haalaath are due to aamaal of ummah.

Wallah what I wrote in my earlier posts are my personal views.

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#156 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2024 18:26

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Rasulullah (saw)

and the Sahaba رضى الله عنها also didn't wait to invent ballistic missiles before fighting in the Ghazwa-e-Badr. The people of those era undertook Jihad to spread Islam. Their wisdoms for fighting or not fighting the enemy cannot be applied to this era. The Muslims of today are not even ready to partake in Jihad for the mere defense of the Ummah and you want them to wait for the acquisition of military hardware? Once again, that would leave no difference between the kuffar and the Muslims.

We are Muslims, we are supposed to do Jihad against the kuffar whether or not the nusrat of Allah comes. So stop trying to incite the ghairah of Allah by suggesting He has abandoned us. He is istigna of such emotional manipulation.

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#157 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2024 18:29

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You also know that immediately after Badr, Rasulullah SAS didn't send expeditions to Rome and Persia.

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#158 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2024 21:16

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Send TJ's to the IDF, what a brilliant idea.

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#159 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2024 01:29

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Whoever started it should end it.

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#160 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2024 09:33

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I'm guessing this is referencing your displeasure with the fact that Hamas initiated a war. Well, you do realize that during the era of Rasulullah (saw)

and the Sahaba رضى الله عنها, the Persians and the Romans wouldn't have dared invade Muslims lands and persecute the Muslims? Israel has been doing exactly that for more than 70 years so the situation cannot be compared to what you are comparing it to.

How can you expect a persecuted people like the Palestinians to have prepared for the war before attacking by amassing military hardware? They wouldn't have been allowed by the Zionist regime and the kuffar of the world anyways. They were enslaved they didn't have many options.

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#161 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2024 10:14

I think some people's solution is for Palestinians to surrender control of west bank and gaza to Israelis and live as second class citizens in the state of Israel.

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#162 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2024 10:47

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Let us decide, what are the other feasible options.

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#163 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2024 10:55

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The think tank has missed to foresee the consequences of its offences.

They were not aware that their opponent doesn't have human values, has a worst record on human rights, doesn't believe in rules of war. And moreover the world is behind him.

Hence, they fired rockets from residential area, while satellite were watching all this. They had hidden barracks near residential areas, hospitals, colleges etc (and may be without consent of the local residents), the enemy's spy eyes in the skies were watching this. The enemy didn't hesitate to bomb the place where military activity were going on.

For them who believe in qitaal, a lakh deaths of ordinary citizens is a small sacrifice, natural.

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#164 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2024 18:01

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Actions are judged by intentions, so each man will have what he intended.
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#165 [Permalink] Posted on 16th May 2024 18:25

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جزاك الله خيرا و احسن الجزاء

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