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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 15th October 2023 13:01
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 15th October 2023 17:36
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This is coming to my mind:

Is this not nusrah from Allah swt that:

1. There is a regime change in Israel. A moderate leader takes over, he moves back to mutually agreed borders with phalestenians. Arab leaders invest a large amount in phalestine, phalestenians progress, their HDI Human development index gets better than Malaysia.

2. Regime change in India, like Rahul takes over, Kashmir returns to happy days of pre 2014 under manmohan Singh. Large inflow of international tourists into Kashmir.

3. Religious freedom is restored in Russia and China.

It is possible if Allah intents.

Sorry, my words hurt many who believe that "Qitaal is the only solution" "we shall not rest until Hudoodullah is restored in Pakistan"
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 15th October 2023 19:02
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(1) That is highly delusional, there are no moderate leaders in Israel. Others are even more vile than him.

Secondly this has been planned for sometime. Analysts have been predicting for the last few years that Israelis have were planning a major propaganda event in order to exterminate and ethnically cleansed Palestinians.

(2) Again more delusion even if Ghandi comes to power people will not allow him to reverse the policy on Kashmir.

Macron in France belongs to the liberal party, in order to get into and hold on to power he has waged a war against Islam.

In England the opposition Labour leader is doing the same.

You should be more concerned then everyone else. What is happening now in Gaza is now a precedent, it means an example has been set.

India is the most likely country in the near future to follow it.

The BJP now has the opportunity. To Create a huge propaganda event portray the Muslims of Kashmir and India as barbarians and then Kill them without mercy.

And all the western countries and media will fully support them.

This is theme the enemies of Islam have been building for the last 30 years. The narrative being

“ Islam is a cancer and the genocide of Muslims is chemotherapy”.

What we are seeing in Europe right now is unprecedented. the media and politicians openly calling for a genocide. In Gaza.

Any one who speaks against the bloodshed is vilified, Palestinian flag is vilified and protests in support of Palestine are vilified. The entire machinery of western states political and media is being utilised in support of a genocide.

The solution is a pious Muslim ruler, who will take a stand for the oppressed.
We need a Salahudin, and our condition as Muslims is so low anc heedless we will continue to produce Hosni Mubaraks, and Sissis.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 17th October 2023 13:07
This story comes to mind.

One oppressor asked a shaykh "We are dominating you, it clearly indicates that god is with us"

The shaykh replied "Shepherd keeps dogs with flock of sheep. When a sheep leaves the flock and runs away, the duty of dogs is to bark at the sheep and force them to return to the flock. There ends the duty of dogs"............ "We have moved away from god, god has sent you to force us to return to god"

Return to Allah!!
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 17th October 2023 14:08
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 17th October 2023 16:10


This is getting circulated across India.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 17th October 2023 21:02
Where the flipping hell are our scholars!

Dhorat
Mangera
Lambada
Ibn Adam

Not a flipping word . Never in my life have I felt ashamed to be Muslim and so depressed and despondent

1000 dead from 1 bomb on hospital

Ulema and apostate regimes are still asleep.
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 17th October 2023 23:13
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2023 01:07
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Bismillah.

This is a propaganda war, and perhaps it is better to leave that in the hands of those who specialise in that field. Deobandi Madaris and institutions since 2007 have been on the target list of the establishment. After the Times newspaper went after Riyad Ul Haq for doing a series on zionism. Both he and the entire Deobandi school were targetted. Even calls to retrict their institutions and ban them.

Having a seperation in these two fields is probably better. Otherwise we could end up like the french muslims with everything being shutdown.

And ALLAH knows best.

I believe Shaykh Zahir Mahmood is the one who speaks on the issue of Ghaza.Quite often.

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2023 01:26
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Bismillah.

The first Gulf War in 1990 and the relentless Islamaphobic rhetoric led to a revival of deen in this country.
And led to the awakening of the youth.

As for GAZA , Saudi prince gave an interview a few weeks ago about being in advanced negotiations, to fully recognise Israel, and create diplomatic and economic ties.

This last week of Israeli attacks and western hypocrisy and the outrage in the Muslim world has set that back.

Plight of the Palestinians which had been abandoned by the arabs is now back on the agenda. Arab public has spoken and made it clear this issue is non-negotiable.

Today the Arab Ambassadors at the U.N. gave a very forceful press conference, publically attacking and criticising Israel.

Huge protests across the muslim world. All the Arab leaders which had established ties with Israel are on the back foot.

Muslims from east to west of every nation have united on the social media platforms. And are defending the Palestinians.

An entire younger generation of muslims have been awakened;

There are things happening by the grace of ALLAH, Islam is a religion that is revived in the face of oppression.

The Kufar who a few days ago were talking about ethnically cleansing GAZA are now on the back foot, following the murders carried out by Israeli air strikes.

And the Zionists and media used to act with rage and deny when ever anyone mentioned the power of their lobby in the western media, and political establishments.

Now they have exposed themselves and the non-muslims across the world are clearly seeing the truth of Zionism.

And ALLAH know best.

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2023 08:46
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The General Secretariat of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (#OIC) has finalized preparations for an open-ended emergency extraordinary meeting of the OIC Executive Committee at the ministerial level to discuss the aggression against the #Gaza Strip…


نشستاً، گفتاً ، برخاستاً۔

The final comments;"Lunch was good"
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2023 13:15
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Yes shaykh zahir did do talk I heard this morning but I dont see why u make excuses for scholars but not the pathetic Arab regimes?

Why can't we condemn both. Msb will argue if he doesn't do as he told he will lose throne, if scholars speak they say we dnt want to be cancelled

Not that Israel hadn't already crossed red lines but if the ummah in few weeks go back to normal I pray I return back to Allah than live and let this go unanswered
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2023 15:51
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x.com/5Pillarsuk/status/1714651440306638909?s=20

GAZA IS CALLING! EMERGENCY LIVESTREAM

Join 5Pillars tonight at 9pm (BST) for an emergency livestream on Gaza with prominent scholars, duat and activists from the UK.

One of the battlegrounds between truth and falsehood of this war on Gaza has been the internet and the online front.

Therefore it is important EVERYONE tunes in, and RT/QT this to all your followers.
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2023 16:55
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Bismillah.

I don’t think you fully understood what I was trying to say. Or perhaps it’s my fault I was not clear.

(1) My view is that we need people who are specialists in Geo-politics or in debating to represent us. Ulemah are not necessarily the best qualified.

(2) It’s not a question of ulema themselves getting cancelled. There has been a periodic media propaganda campaign over the last 16 years or so, about the Deobandi Sect being extremist. And calls for The Madrassahs attached to Deobandis, the Deobandi masjid, and Deobandi ulemah influenced charities and even hospital chaplains and prison chaplains to be outlawed. And banned.

I ask you if that happens will that be a good thing?

Both Dar Ul Ilm Of Mufti Ibraheem Limbada, and Mufti Ibn Adam have been targeted in documentaries, and in articles in the past.

(3) The division of labour should be divided like it was during British, colonialism. There were those who gave advice behind the scenes and focused on running institutes of learning and those who focused on a campaign for freedom from the British.

I am sure all the Ulemah across the U.K. will have mentioned the plight of Palestinians in their khutbahs.

But the reigns for the political arena have been handed to others whilst they give advice behind the scenes.

Prime example is the new Voice of truth channel on YouTube. It is run by two young Deobandi Ulema
And they have had several programmes on their live podcast. About Palestine in the last week.
Featuring Daniel Haqiqatjou, Moazaam begg, Roshan M Salish, Robert Carter. Infact Daniel Haqiqatjou is on a tour of the U.k. and has done several and is due to do another one on Palestine on Sunday.

Here is a link and all their live streams, during the last two weeks.

youtu.be/pYHJrWxoo-A?feature=shared

What you are seeing is not Ulemah being ambivalent. But a very smart division of Labour. And anticipating any backlash calling for the shutting down of Madrassahs before it happens.

(4) I am old enough to remember when we would get Maulanas and elderly committee members who barely spoke English, going on to represent Muslims and embarrassing the entire community. I am glad the Maulanas are staying in their lane.

This is the first conflict situation were we have had, articulate Muslims in both America and U.K. representing Islam and Palestine and doing better then these Ulemah could.

I will post a few links on the post below.

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2023 17:16
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Bismillah.

If you have been searching for good Muslim representation and counter arguments. Watch the following,

Piers Morgan the Israeli apologist got tore up twice in two days both those have over 5 million views.

youtu.be/4idQbwsvtUo?feature=shared
By Bassem Yousef who used sarcasm and ridicule.

And by Mohammed Hijab
youtu.be/9jBgGY2Ww9Q?feature=shared

Then we have people like Sami al Hamadi. Who are very good political analysts.

youtu.be/9jBgGY2Ww9Q?feature=shared

And a solid group of people in America that have been going, on the likes of CNN news and countering the Israeli narrative.

Anyways watch the above three Sami Al Hamadi is a very good analyst.

The likes Zeeshan of Zeeshan on his smile2channel.

And Ali Dawah on his channel both have a huge following, and offering a defence.

If you are feeling despondent this 20 minute
Talk by Sami al Hamdi is A MUST WATCH. It is very powerful.

youtu.be/VOzMUrwfX_8?feature=shared
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