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#616 [Permalink] Posted on 25th July 2025 08:54

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This plandemic wasn't an anti Muslim conspiracy, although the Muslims were targeted as mentioned earlier, along with BAME.

These anti Muslims and racists were also victims.

And if the information is coming from experts in the field who are not Muslims, so what?

Yes, there were and always will be haters with Credible information that is being shared based on the findings of experts.

So, the best thing to do is "Ascertain the Truth"

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Alhumdulillah, this is what was done and not one of us are regretful of our actions them or now.

The regretful ones are those who were coerced into taking the vaccine. The only people who I have respect for in doing so, are those who did it for the sake of being with their parents etc etc.

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#617 [Permalink] Posted on 25th July 2025 09:18

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Thats your opinion however misguided it can be, but why post from dubious sites and from posters who do nothing but peddle hate?

Many people do not ascribe to your views, people can be killed in ways other than vaccines, but to plant doubt and suspicion in people minds about medications is dubious and not on moral grounds, and as a muslim its clearly wrong peddling untruth from liars.

If you dont want to take the covid vaccine or general vaccines thats your choice, but dont peddle disinformation with no proof from the social media wild west then qualify it with quranic ayahs, you are not qualified as a alim or on medical grounds to make spurious claims.

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#618 [Permalink] Posted on 25th July 2025 10:29

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Where has anyone said anything about medication? Please don't misinterpret posts and put words in to my mouth.

A vaccine is not medicine!

You are one who can't even answer a simple question which exposes so much about what went on and you accuse me of lying. Such hypocrisy!

Answer if you are thruthfull

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If you cannot answer, say so and we'll tell you, with proof. And if you refuse to answer, it's simple, you are in denial and therefore, either regretful over what you have done or cannot comprehend any other possibility.

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#619 [Permalink] Posted on 25th July 2025 12:56

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My bad. I answered because he'll just troll on

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#620 [Permalink] Posted on 25th July 2025 18:22

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Good advice lol.

Anyways, I hope sincerely that your sight has gained better vision after the episode you experienced a couple of years ago.

To be honest, everyone will now have some sort of experience of weaker eyesight. Not because they were vaccinated, that's a whole different type of weakness. Rather, the weakness many others will be experiencing now is due to blue light coming from screens!

Cutting down on screen time will definitely reduce weakness in the eyes.

Now I just wait for saracen 1 to call me a conspiracy theorist who gets his scientific proof from social media islamophobes lol

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#621 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2025 10:32

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If I agree with whatever is presented to me, my imaan shall get dented.
The following persons present their view with so called authentic proofs.
Zakir naik, maududi, salman nadvi, engineer mirza, ghamadi, farhath hashmi, sir syed, meraj rabbani, Tauseefur rahman, albani, ahmed raza khan, tahir qadri etc.

I recall Qari Tayyib sab RA, if we start agreeing with people who present their view with proofs, by evening our Aqeedah will be reversed. Set some usools before you study the proofs presented to you.

Mufti Shafi Sahib RA had a strange view, that:

Wherever there is no definite conclusion and there are multiple possibilities. And when many people apply their mind over it, then there must be difference of opinion. There are two possibilities that there can be no difference of opinion:

1. All of them are ignorant, that, without applying their mind, they agree with others opinion.
2. They all are hypocrites, they have different personal opinion but they hide it and agree with others opinion.

But if they are neither hypocrites nor fools, but sensible and honest men, then there will be difference of opinion.

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#622 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2025 11:12

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Make use of these teachings in deen.

When you are buying a car, do you look in the books of fiqh for various opinions or do you speak to those with knowledge in cars?

You could use that analogy against what I'm saying, true. But then would you then ignore the designer of the car who is warning not to drive the petrol car with diesel, or would you take the word of the mechanic, who says, it's not tried and tested, but we can experiment?

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#623 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2025 12:04

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Taqleed is to have faith in an expert.
Like, you believe in car manufacturer instructions, and you also believe that the car manufacturer is accountable for his instructions.

Now some tom dick and harry suggest that adding 10% diesel in petrol car, that improves efficiency and prove it. We won't accept it, we believe that this man has no accountability, he shall vanish and we will be at receiving end
Similarly there are suggestions on social media, but are they accountable? can I sue them in court. They shall argue that they suggested and didn't dictate.

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#624 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2025 12:37

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Precisely!

The vaccines were an experiment!
The vaccines were an experiment!
The vaccines were an experiment!

Not tried and tested
Not tried and tested
Not tried and tested

Specialists were silenced
Specialists were silenced
Specialists were silenced

Now back to the designer or inventor.

With just 2 people in the equation. What did they say.

1: The inventor of the PCR test
2: One of the inventors of the mRNA tech

Both people who should not have been silenced.

What did each of them say about their products?

Hint: answers in the forum. Dr. Robert Malone (mRNA) and Kary Mullis (PCR)

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#625 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2025 13:09

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Let us go back to covid period (a few claim it didn't exist),

did anyone offer 100% screening test
Did anyone offer 100% cure
Did anyone offer 100% guaranteed preventive measures
Did anyone offer harmless vaccines.

No!!!!

Authorities who were accountable offered whatever resources they had at that time. And they didn't hide the harms in the cure or vaccines.

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#626 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2025 14:41

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The visuals of the masks, social distancing, synchronised news and lies were the only thing infecting people.

The flu AKA covid-19 was in everyones face because of the above mentioned.

So back to the original Question.

How many that died of covid-19 died outside of hospital?

Don't deviate away from this question please.

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#627 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2025 15:16

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The visuals of the masks, social distancing, synchronised news and lies were the only thing infecting people.

The flu AKA covid-19 was in everyones face because of the above mentioned.

I am sure Covid did exist,
No cure for this disease
It was fatal
It was contagious

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So back to the original Question.

How many that died of covid-19 died outside of hospital?

Don't deviate away from this question please

I have no data. In your country, how many patients didn't visit hospital after acute breathing issues. Such patients would have died at home.

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#628 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2025 15:47

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Now Do you visit a hospital :
1. Which didn't kill patients during covid
2. Which didn't admit patients with acute breathing issues, saying, it is ordinary flue, adviced them to go back and stay at home and get cured without any medical attention and patients were cured.
3.didn't attempt for covid medicine.

Name the hospital.

If you don't believe in present medical system, reject them totally. But you won't, you are compelled to visit the same hospital, which you claim that they murdered patients. Why? What changed now, the same doctors can inject poison now and it will not be recorded, they can do wrong diagnosis, prescribe wrong medication. Or do you have an oasis in desert

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#629 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2025 18:04

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Non that I know, died outside of the hospital.

Every known death at the time, blamed on covid, were all inside a hospital. Even fit people. Including relatives that I know of

You can answer based on the deaths outside of the hospital that you know of, period!

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#630 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2025 18:26

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1. In your country, how many patients didn't visit hospital after acute breathing issues
In my place, None shall stay at home with covid symptoms.
........ It is like, questioning why most of the coma or acute cardiac issues patients die in hospital. Because they need hospitalisation. They won't die at home.
2. Why were fit and healthy people were hospitalized. What stops now, even now these hospitals can kill patients.

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