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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 12th January 2021 15:14

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1. Who pays the salary for these extra hire?
2. What's the hourly rate?
3. When do they hire? Is there a threshold of minimum bookings? Would they hire if they just had to vaccinate 5 people in the day?

This would be location/country specific!
1: GP confederation via the funding provided by the NHS
2: Let's just say a doctor would do 5 vaccines in the hour if that's how one would like to work it out. The nurse or vaccinator would get less than one third than the doctor and the admin would get what the doctor would get for 1 vaccination. The stewards and some admins actually volunteer and to be fair, I'm sure some nurses and doctors would also volunteer
3: They hire as per need. This would be based on numbers and quantity of vaccines, not for small numbers.

Re the monitoring, yes, correct. Only 15 minutes on the premises. Thereafter, I couldn't tell you specifically

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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 13th January 2021 12:13

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2 & 3: Jazakallah

GP confederation? So the pay doesn't come out of the payment they receive for giving the vaccines as they claimed?

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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 13th January 2021 12:39

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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 15th January 2021 12:13

www.gov.uk/government/news/past-covid-19-infection-provid...

Past COVID-19 infection provides some immunity but people may still carry and transmit virus

Study finds past coronavirus (COVID-19) infection provides some immunity for at least 5 months, but people may still carry and transmit the virus.

Published 14 January 2021
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People infected with COVID-19 in the past are likely to be protected against reinfection for several months, a Public Health England (PHE) study has found, although experts cautioned those with immunity may still be able carry the virus in their nose and throat and therefore have a risk of transmitting to others.

PHE has been regularly testing tens of thousands of health care workers across the UK since June for new COVID-19 infections as well as the presence of antibodies, which suggest people have been infected before.

SIREN study leaders are clear this first report provides no evidence towards the antibody or other immune responses from COVID-19 vaccines, nor should any conclusions to be drawn on their effectiveness. The SIREN study will consider vaccine responses later this year.

PHE scientists working on the study have concluded naturally acquired immunity as a result of past infections provide 83% protection against reinfection, compared to people who have not had the disease before. This appears to last at least for 5 months from first becoming sick.

While the SIREN study will continue to assess whether protection may last for longer, this means people who contracted the disease in the first wave may now be vulnerable to catching it again.

Between 18 June and 24 November, scientists detected 44 potential reinfections (2 ‘probable’ and 42 ‘possible’ reinfections) out of 6,614 participants who had tested positive for antibodies. This represents an 83% rate of protection from reinfection.

PHE also warned that although those with antibodies have some protection from becoming ill with COVID-19 themselves, early evidence from the next stage of the study suggests that some of these individuals carry high levels of virus and could continue to transmit the virus to others.

It is therefore crucial that everyone continues to follow the rules and stays at home, even if they have previously had COVID-19, to prevent spreading the virus to others. Remember to wash hands regularly, wear face coverings and make space from others to help reduce the likelihood of passing on the virus.

It is vital that, with cases at their highest level to date and the R number above 1 across the country, people do everything that they can to avoid the risk of transmitting the virus to other people.

Professor Susan Hopkins, Senior Medical Advisor at Public Health England and the SIREN study lead said:

This study has given us the clearest picture to date of the nature of antibody protection against COVID-19 but it is critical people do not misunderstand these early findings.

We now know that most of those who have had the virus, and developed antibodies, are protected from reinfection, but this is not total and we do not yet know how long protection lasts. Crucially, we believe people may still be able to pass the virus on.

This means even if you believe you already had the disease and are protected, you can be reassured it is highly unlikely you will develop severe infections but there is still a risk that you could acquire an infection and transmit to others. Now more than ever it is vital we all stay at home to protect our health service and save lives.

We are immensely grateful to our colleagues in the NHS for giving up their time to volunteer, and whose continued participation at a time of great stress is making this research possible.

Background information
PHE’s SIREN (SARS-CoV-2 Immunity and Reinfection EvaluatioN) study has performed regular antibody and PCR testing on 20,787 healthcare workers, including frontline clinical staff and those in non-clinical roles, from 102 NHS trusts since the study commenced in June. 6,614 of these participants tested positive for COVID-19 antibodies upon recruitment.

Of the 44 potential reinfections identified by the study, 2 were designated ‘probable’ and 42 ‘possible’, based on the amount of confirmatory evidence available. If all 44 cases were confirmed, it would represent an 83% rate of protection from reinfection, while if only the 2 ‘probable’ reinfections were confirmed, the rate would be 99%. Further research is ongoing to clarify this range.

The study found that antibody protection after infection lasts for at least 5 months, on average, and scientists are currently studying whether protection may last for longer. This means that many people who contracted the disease in the first wave may now be vulnerable to catching it again.

Both of the 2 ‘probable’ reinfections reported having experienced COVID-19 symptoms during the first wave of the pandemic, but were not tested at the time. Both patients reported that their symptoms were less severe the second time. None of the 44 potential reinfection cases were PCR tested during the first wave, but all tested positive for COVID-19 antibodies at the point of recruitment to the study.

This analysis occurred prior to the widespread dissemination of the new variant VOC202012/01, further work is underway in the laboratory to understand whether and to what extent antibodies also provide protection from this variant and future analysis will assess the impact of VOC202012/01 on symptomatic and asymptomatic infections in healthcare workers.

The study will continue to follow participants for 12 months to explore how long any immunity may last, the effectiveness of vaccines and to what extent people with immunity are able to carry and transmit the virus.

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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2021 08:56

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Norway Warns of Vaccination Risks for Sick Patients Over 80

(Bloomberg) -- Norway said Covid-19 vaccines may be too risky for the very old and terminally ill, the most cautious statement yet from a European health authority as countries assess the real-world side effects of the first shots to gain approval.

Norwegian officials said 23 people had died in the country a short time after receiving their first dose of the vaccine. Of those deaths, 13 have been autopsied, with the results suggesting that common side effects may have contributed to severe reactions in frail, elderly people, according to the Norwegian Medicines Agency.

“For those with the most severe frailty, even relatively mild vaccine side effects can have serious consequences,” the Norwegian Institute of Public Health said. “For those who have a very short remaining life span anyway, the benefit of the vaccine may be marginal or irrelevant.”

The recommendation does not mean younger, healthier people should avoid being vaccinated. But it’s an early indication of what to watch as countries begin to issue safety monitoring reports on the vaccines. Emer Cooke, the new head of the European Medicines Agency, has said tracking the safety of Covid vaccines, especially those relying on novel technologies such as messenger RNA, would be one of the biggest challenges once shots are rolled out widely.

Pfizer and BioNTech are working with the Norwegian regulator to investigate the deaths in Norway, Pfizer said in an e-mailed statement. The agency found that “the number of incidents so far is not alarming, and in line with expectations,” Pfizer said.

Allergic reactions have been uncommon so far. In the U.S., authorities reported 21 cases of severe allergic reactions from Dec. 14-23 after administration of about 1.9 million initial doses of the vaccine developed by Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE. That’s an incidence of 11.1 cases per million doses, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Though both Covid-19 vaccines approved so far in Europe were tested in tens of thousands of people -- including volunteers in their late 80s and 90s -- the average trial participant was in his or her early 50s. The first people to be immunized in many places have been older than that as countries rush to inoculate nursing-home residents at high risk from the virus.

Norway has given at least one dose to about 33,000 people, focusing on those considered to be most at risk if they contract the virus, including the elderly. The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine approved late last year has been used most broadly, with a similar shot from Moderna Inc. approved earlier this month also now being administered.

Of 29 cases of potential side effects investigated by Norwegian authorities, almost three-quarters were in people age 80 or older, the regulator said in a Jan. 14 report.

In France, one frail patient died in a care home two hours after being vaccinated, but authorities said given the patient’s previous medical history there is no indication the death was linked to the vaccine. The French pharmaceutical safety agency on Thursday reported four cases of severe allergic reactions and two incidents of irregular heartbeat after vaccination.

The first Europe-wide safety report on the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine will probably be published at the end of January, the regulator’s key medicines committee said Friday. Vaccine makers are required to submit data monthly.

In the U.K., which has carried out more immunizations per capita than anywhere else in Europe, authorities will assess safety data and plan to publish details of suspected reactions “on a regular basis,” the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency said, without giving a date.

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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2021 12:00

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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2021 16:08

Pfizer, Oxford and other Vaccines. One of the other being Moderna.

Why Would I trust Moderna?

Well because if you look into their history on vaccines, they have developed a method of modifying mRNA by first transfecting it into human cells, then dedifferentiating it into stem cells which could then be further redifferentiated into desired target cell types. Amazing!

So it looks like they know what they are doing.

Quiz!
How many vaccines do Moderna have prior to Covid-19? (awaiting your answers)
This answer will raise hope for those going for it ;) look it up with your qualified trained eye and ability to understand the technology behind it.

With so much experience and the number of vaccines by Moderna, it's a no brainer.

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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 20th January 2021 02:39

From former Prime Minister of UK's website

institute.global/policy/how-government-should-call-shots-...

Building (and Maintaining) Trust in Vaccines
Strategies to promote widespread acceptance of a Covid-19 vaccine must be based on public perceptions, attitudes, and trust. Health-care workers play a vital role in promoting this acceptance. For example, a systematic review of the shingles vaccine that evaluated uptake among older adults found that recommendations from primary-care physicians consistently played a significant role in generating high demand for the vaccine.

The UK government should consider partnering with the Vaccine Confidence Project at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine on a public information campaign.

Vaccine uptake requires public trust in government, and this could help prepare the British people for the rollout of vaccinations.

The current trust deficit must be addressed immediately and needs to be an ongoing effort.

Interesting that the idea of getting health care workers to be injected first is to gain the trust of the nation and at the same time, on the same webpage, they talk about documenting results to get a better understanding on the efficacy of the vaccine and what kind of results it will produce, including side effects and all the other unknowns.

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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 20th January 2021 02:53

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How many vaccines do Moderna have prior to Covid-19?

From what I've gathered, this is the first ever vaccine or drug!

I heard that from a Doctor.

Also
www.wsj.com/articles/inside-moderna-the-covid-vaccine-fro...

Wall Street Journal wrote:

The Covid Vaccine Front-Runner With No Track Record hasn’t yet developed an approved drug,

At the year’s start (referring to 2020), few outside the world of biotech had heard of a Boston-area company with a New Age name and unproven approach to drugmaking. Most in the industry who did know Moderna Inc. doubted its prospects. Investors barely had interest in the company, which had yet to produce a medicine.The Covid Vaccine Front-Runner With No Track Record and an Unsparing CEO
The upstart hasn’t yet developed an approved drug....

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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 20th January 2021 11:29

America's Frontline Doctors;

Qualified Attorney and Qualified Doctor, Dr Simone Gold. Very well trained Eye lol

She was fired from her post because she treated a patient and the patient recovered in 12 hours. She was fired because the hospital where she worked was ordered to fire her by the "insurance company" not because of medical negligence.

youtu.be/xFntHpk1uok

She answers all of Abu Muhammad's legitimate questions (which I also put together as facts, just need to get it authenticated by reliable sources to prove his point)

She covers BAME in reference to older vaccines too.

Please go ahead and say stupid things like "She's been fired, you can't listen to her" Where is the justice in that?

She's done a great job to create a platform for many more honest doctors who don't have a voice and are being struck off for their honesty and knowledge.

1.2 million views in a couple of weeks and 20 million views in an hour of from another piece of information shared by doctors alike.

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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 20th January 2021 11:49

Child bearing women should not take these vaccines until the Placenta questions are answered. (Question discussed in video)

Don't dismiss this as Christian nut jobs. This is a valid question posed by doctors, scientist's, lawyer's

Every time you discuss this topic, please use the term EXPERIMENTAL

This is a war of words. First it was the Wuhan virus, then SARS cov2 then Covid-19. Don't use these words.

*Are you going to take the EXPERIMENTAL vaccine?*

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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 20th January 2021 13:22

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Child bearing women should not take these vaccines until the Placenta questions are answered. (Question discussed in video)

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Mothers who are of childbearing age should not take this vaccine until more research is conducted and results are known.

Women who are conceiving or women who are of childbearing age?

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#43 [Permalink] Posted on 20th January 2021 13:34

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I just watched this too.

She mentions a bit of both but more specifically women of childbearing age due to the unknowns and then documented works of specialists from Pfizer.

Hope that helps.

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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 20th January 2021 14:16

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Simone Gold, MD, has not worked with Cedars-Sinai Medical Center or any of its offices or affiliates since 2015. For three weeks in late-2015, Dr. Gold was employed on a per diem basis by Cedars-Sinai Medical Network, a component of Cedars-Sinai. She worked during this brief time in a network urgent care clinic.

Dr. Gold is not authorized to represent or speak about any information on behalf of Cedars-Sinai.

www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/cedars-sinai-statement-july...

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#45 [Permalink] Posted on 20th January 2021 14:19

DOCTOR SIMONE GOLD WHO JOINED CAPITOL ATTACKS LEADS A FAR-RIGHT CAMPAIGN AGAINST COVID-19 VACCINE

theintercept.com/2021/01/14/capitol-riot-covid-vaccine-do...

Are you guys really taking your medical advice from trump nut jobs?

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