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#76 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 17:06

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You should take your leave to a more suitable platform of the ones you follow

Brother Yasin, have you been following Maripat Sahab's various social, political, and literary threads on the forum over the last eight years? Do you understand the significance of his writings on those very important topics? Maripat Sahab has diligently kept himself away from engaging brothers on certain acrimonious topics, because he knows there is no closure to be had in pursuing those discussions. Even in this particular thread, his default response was to deescalate and admit defeat, yet the brothers continued to question him.

How can it be fair to completely ignore Maripat Sahab's enormous contributions and invite him to leave only because of a disagreement in an already contentious topic?

If we push away all those who are well wishers of the ummah because we do not see eye to eye on certain limited topics, how can we ever expect unity in the broader ummah? Those who wield power are under the greatest pressure to show the most magnanimity.

However, brother Yasin, this is your forum, and you are our ameer. We are immensely grateful to you and your team for putting in decades of your time and energy to provide such a unique platform for Muslims. This was supposed to be for the London youth only but Allah Taala accepted your sincerity and made it a global phenomenon. I cannot pretend to understand what you and your team had to go through all these years to keep the forum going, and keeping peace between the brothers. We can only appeal to your sense of graciousness to add some flexibility to the forum. May Allah Taala make it easy for you, ameen.

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#77 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 17:15

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You are in no position to judge Aalims (who you call Maulvees in an almost derogatory way).

I seek refuge with Allah Taala if I have ever given you the impression that I mean anything derogatory by the use of the word maulvi. My dear respected grandfather is known with great admiration in my ancestral village as Maulvi Abdul Haq RA.

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#78 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 17:35

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Allah سبحانه وتعالى will not raise a person amongst the Muslims if he worshipped Allah all his life and did great work but dies a Kaafir and shows their true colours. Similarly, 8 years of work means nothing if you end with your true colours. My replies are not to his previous posts, my post above was in reply to his wrong, spiteful, uneducated, unprofessional and proven wrong posts of recent. He even showed qualities of pride in a recent post which I'd like to ignore. I have no respect for him anymore and will not pretend to.

People like him are more dangerous than ignorant people who simply say "I don't know anything about this". You will be drawn towards him not because of his previous work but because his ideology and conclusions align with yours.

You can repeat "It's your forum" a million time and it won't make it true. I constantly feel it belongs to the public of Haque. If you're on the Haqq, you will 100% feel like it's yours. Once one becomes a Fitnah of misinformation, Allah سبحانه وتعالى will save the forum from that person.

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#79 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 21:32

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Inclining to the truth!

If we know 2+2=4 and one day, people of authority say 2+2=5, how can you ever justify yourself?

Our great imams went to prison because they wouldn't degrade themselves to lies and injustices.

If there was a doubt that 1.987+2.013=4 then by all means, investigate it and ascertain the truth. Once proven beyond doubt and you still disagree, you have led to yourself, to your brothers and sisters and to your offspring and Ummah!

When we have adopted this behaviour, naturally you will find comfort with the disbelievers.

You will love them and you will be raised with them!

Here, all I can see is frustration of exposure. It wasn't intended to go this way, but due to Maripats understanding of how the Muslims are at fault, of course we will not succeed because our purpose is not to please the kuffar, it is to expose their lies. Lies that we believe is true. So true that today 2+2=5!

This thread is only visible to a handful of people, not the public and not the rest of the members. So everyone respect is still maintained. No one has been defamed or insulted.

If you didn't like the reflection in the mirror, it is only due to hypocrisy.

The people sold one lie, we bought it and continued to sell it.

This is our future generation, still selling lies, our elders, still selling lies.

Dajjals work is becoming so easy it make me sick to the core, but you guys want to keep believing in lies and promoting them.

Shame on you in many levels.

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#80 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 21:50

Bismillah.

So the original poster makes post calling out Professor Maripat.

The when the Professor gives his perspective. He is told to leave.

How is that fair.?

So how about making these type of threads private were the like minded individuals alone who are all in agreement are invited to participate.?????

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#81 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 22:13

Brother Maripat was called out on his belief that Muslims are to blame, even for Palestine!

He wants to leave and said he'd leave. It's his call. No one telling him to leave. If this thread was in the open public section, I'm sure it wouldn't have looked this bad.

He does not have to accept any findings.

I called him out because of his belief in the lies and then sharing them as if they were true.

I wanted to show my brother that basic physics are lies based on his understanding.

Either physics is wrong and what they teach are all lies, or they say they agree, what we were shown was lies. But instead, "I concede" with no explanation!

My brother can continue and share as long as he wants, no one is stopping him but himself!

But if I see my other brothers being blamed in the basis of lies, I will stand up for them and I don't care who is in front of me, be it you, abu mohammed or even Yasin!

A lie is a lie and this question and the answer proves newton's theory that it was a lie.

The only way the Muslims could've carried out 9/11 would be with the aid of the Djinn and Magic.

Otherwise, there was no way my brothers in islam could've done 9/11

I didn't want to do this, but can I ask the mods to PM the comments made by Maripat in the Palestine thread please. Then you Will see why I opened this thread

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#82 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 22:16

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Where has anyone "told" him to leave?

Then you can decide what is fair and what isn't.

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#83 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 22:20

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Plight of Palestinians

Plight of Palestinian people is at the core of engagement of Muslim world with the west.

After ousting of USSR from Afghanistan the Mujahideen were open to other missions and Al Qaida executed 9/11.

It is well known that Mujahideen before Taliban were under US patronage via ISI.

Then the Taliban took over from the Mujahideen.

It is unlikely that it happened without US knowledge or patronage.

It is well known that Al Qaida had origins under US patronage.

ISIS is AQIS, Al Qaida in Iraq and Sham.

So all four Mujahid movements, the Mujahideen, the Taliban, Al Qaida and the ISIS are basically US products.

After 9/11 the Taliban refused to hand over Osama Bin Laden to the US and the US invasion ensued.

Al Qaida executed 9/11 because of Palestine problem.

Of course US interventions in Iraq, Syria, Libya and possibly in Algeria were independent of Israel connection but Palestine is a big issue.

At the moment the Arabs have regularized their relationship with Israel.

No Arab-Israel war for some time. The Arabs want to focus on Iran.

Clearly Palestine problem goes on the back burner.

This is real politik.

Only after solving the Iran problem we can think of any other issues.

Even Pakistan and Turkey will be paying more attention of Arab-Iran tussle than Palestine problem.

We at MS, on the other hand, can pay attention to the details of Palestinian problem.

Because of their own follies the Jewish people ended up in exile for a long time and in 1917 a British politicians came up with the Balfour declaration and the Jewish people started migrating from Europe to Palestine. In 1948 Israel was created on Palestinian land.

Today Palestinians are confined to jail like pockets and about 57 Muslim countries can do little to get them a fair deal.US is the dominant world power and the Zionists have enough money engendered political grip in the US to thwart any attempt at justice for Palestinians.

Palestinians are under sort of house arrest and we Indian and Pakistanis do not have enough muscle power or other power to make a difference.

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#84 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 22:40

yes this post. i simply can't believe this nonsense.

I'm so glad it was taken out of public view so quickly. That acrion has protected the Muslims from mockery and protected maripat from losing dignity and respect that he has earned over such a long time.

whoever removed his post was protecting the ummah and our brother from shame.

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#85 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 23:44

Bismillah.

I dont see what is so complex about this the Zionists and their allies and lobbies control the politicians of the west the multi-national corporations be they pharmaceutical companies, the banking system everything else in between. And they also control both the global main stream media corporations and the Social media companies.
Their official narratives on everything are coloured with fabrications, lies, omissions and gross misrepresentations. Nothing they say can be trusted.

The rulers of the muslim world are sell outs. And complicit in the oppression of muslims.

The average muslims like me are struggling to hold on to their deen in this day and age. Because we live in a time were its like holding on to cinders.

Clutching Cinders by Shaykh Riyadh Ul Haq

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#86 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 23:58

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You will be drawn towards him not because of his previous work but because his ideology and conclusions align with yours.

Brother Yasin, are you sure?

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#87 [Permalink] Posted on 14th March 2022 00:06

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I constantly feel it belongs to the public of Haque.

Brother Yasin, please explain to me what you mean by the public of Haque.

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#88 [Permalink] Posted on 14th March 2022 00:46

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100% sure. It doesn't mean I'm 100% right. I'm just 100% sure.

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public adjective (PEOPLE)

Relating to or involving people in general, rather than being limited to a particular group of people.

of preposition (POSSESSION)

used to show possession, belonging, or origin:

Haque [Arabic] Trans: truth noun

- the actual fact or facts about a matter
- the real facts about a situation, event, or person

I'm sure you're capable of putting it all together as if it wasn't crystal clear to begin with.

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#89 [Permalink] Posted on 14th March 2022 03:06

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Haque

Brother Yasin, you used the word Haque with a capital H, and you gave me the definition of the English word truth. Is "public of truth" the same thing as "public of Haque?"

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#90 [Permalink] Posted on 14th March 2022 03:12

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100% sure. It doesn't mean I'm 100% right. I'm just 100% sure.

Brother Yasin, does this mean I can also post things I am 100% sure about, even if it might not be 100% right?

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