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#61 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2022 22:02
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I agree with you.
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I watched most of this and have almost finished watching it too. (Although it would help if you could edit your post and sort the link out, I can't edit posts in the debate section)
Very interesting so far.
They don't go into who did it or even how they did it. They only go through what had actually happened to the towers.

Interestingly though, Dr. Judy Wood said that there were no plans! That was impossible and she gave her very legitimate reasons. She also talked about an undisclosed expert who said that there was technology to do such things, in fact, she even mentioned holograms and how holograms were used to display the name Allah in the air to scare the people and it worked!

Then after about 40 minutes, it got side tracked into the covid hoax. Even in there she makes mention of a specialists doctor and asks the doctor what they have to lose if they spoke up and exposed the fraud. She said the doctor replied, "My licence".

Can you imagine the fear everyone has to just speak up. They are afraid of losing their jobs and possibly their lives!

Anyways, will continue to watch the new latest video from February 2022 www.bitchute.com/video/VTblICiQTfhD/
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#62 [Permalink] Posted on 1st March 2022 08:30
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Tesla passed away in 1943. Have we seen this technology used in war time scenarios over the last 80 years?

We have seen and not seen many types of tech but all sorts of technology exists.

Did we see two 110 story buildings turn to dust in front of our eyes or not?

If yes, the technology exists, existed and didn't necessarily have to be the same used by Tesla!

If no, you are not speaking the truth!

So, what will it be?
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#63 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2022 03:28
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Do you disagree with the 3,000+ architects and engineers
Brother Yasin, is this an appeal to authority?
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#64 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2022 16:57
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No, it's a question if he rejects 3000+ architects in favour of the governments advice from 1 single company who couldn't explain their outcome when interviewed and the questions raised accompanied evidence and explanations. Appeal to Authority lacks evidence. Here it was provided.

Nice try though.
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#65 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2022 17:53
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Thank you. I am trying hard to learn from you. I'm glad you have a sense of humor about this. I was fearful you might turn out to be a khushk mizaj maulvi (scholar of dry temperament.) The fact that you are very gracious in the face of ad hominen attacks is a very heartening sign of your emotional maturity. Mashallah. May Allah Taala give you barakah in your ilm (knowledge) and hilm (graciousness.)
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#66 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2022 18:20
I thought I'd just add something here.

We all tend to say "3" buildings went down. WTC 1, 2, and 7 that's technically correct.

However, EVERY building with the WTC prefix was destroyed!

ALL of them and ONLY them disintegrated to some degree!



How come?
Why?
Laws of physics changed for the day?
Even Erin (the tornado) took a 130° turn away from the world trade centres

Perhaps they used their weather control technology that even President JFK spoke about in the 60's
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#67 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 02:29
I just wanted to let Maripat Sahab know that I was away from the forum when this thread discussion was taking place, otherwise I would have tried to add my own thoughts in support of Maripat Sahab's point of view. However since the topic is now stale, I hope Maripat Sahab is now feeling better and returns to posting his thoughts and analyses on issues of the ummah in his inimitable style.

I am reminded of the naseeha given to Maulana Sajjad Nomani DB by his illustrious father Maulana Manzur Nomani RA. He said if you decide to dedicate your life to serving the ummah, know that you will receive nothing but derision and animosity from the ummah in return, so if your service is for the sake of Allah Taala alone then you will prevail, else you will lose your footing and withdraw from service to the ummah.

Maripat Sahab has weathered too many storms to be easily affected by the behaviour of brothers on this thread, but I can understand the need to step away temporarily to gather one's thoughts before returning to the pitch.

Colonel Sahab's ban should also soon be coming to an end and I sincerely hope he too returns to the forum to post. A generation of young Muslims owe their Islam to him, and another generation is now in need of his tough love and guidance.

May Allah Taala make us all keys to the gates of goodness and locks on the gates of wickedness. Ameen.
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#68 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 04:53
Interesting. So the brothers who are trying to expose the duplicity of the kuffar and mushrikeen are serving who? Themselves? Whereas the ones who are trying to defend the kuffar are serving the Ummah.

I myself am not doing any service to the Ummah, but if anyone has the right to complain about derision and animosity being directed towards them, it's these honorable brothers who have spent a lot of time exposing what the kuffar have been trying to pass off as truth.

It is ridiculous that the Muslim Ummah is completely confused about where their loyalties should lie, but then wonders how will a bunch of Muslims get misguided by Dajjal, when the answer is right in front of us, clear as day. Dajjal is about causing confusion in the hearts and minds and we are exhibiting those very symptoms even before his emergence into mainstream.
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#69 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 10:54
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I just wanted to let Maripat Sahab know that I was away from the forum when this thread discussion was taking place, otherwise I would have tried to add my own thoughts in support of Maripat Sahab's point of view. However since the topic is now stale, I hope Maripat Sahab is now feeling better and returns to posting his thoughts and analyses on issues of the ummah in his inimitable style.

I understand ya akhi.

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I am reminded of the naseeha given to Maulana Sajjad Nomani DB by his illustrious father Maulana Manzur Nomani RA. He said if you decide to dedicate your life to serving the ummah, know that you will receive nothing but derision and animosity from the ummah in return, so if your service is for the sake of Allah Taala alone then you will prevail, else you will lose your footing and withdraw from service to the ummah.

I know that for quite some time.
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Maripat Sahab has weathered too many storms to be easily affected by the behaviour of brothers on this thread, but I can understand the need to step away temporarily to gather one's thoughts before returning to the pitch.

There was a storm on SF called Harris Hammam. I was affected by that greatly. Our young Maulawis were affected much more. In my life I had weathered four more such storms.

My pitch is economic, political, social and security situation of Indian Muslims. I have been trying to figure out the things at SF and here at MS. I am more or less done.

My own place, AMU, did not provide any environment for the same. So I am thankful to MS for hosting me for so long.

But I had to exercise lot of Sabr to stay around. Harris Hammam is a bad character but being an insider he knew every single weakness of our young Maulawis and used them ruthlessly. Yet I did not have a single point on which I could confront him. Being a Maulawi he knew how return the insults.

By now I am exhausted by exercise of Sabr.

Problem does not center around interpretation of 9/11 videos. It is about Maulana Fazlur Rahman and Uncle-Nephew Madani duo - Arshad and Mehmood.

Maulawis expect that I should be deferential to them. Maulawis forget that all three of these Maulanas are political activists. In political field difference of opinion is inevitable.

I still put my faith in Deoband for Deen.


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Colonel Sahab's ban should also soon be coming to an end and I sincerely hope he too returns to the forum to post. A generation of young Muslims owe their Islam to him, and another generation is now in need of his tough love and guidance.


This Forum belong to Maulawis. People like me have been guests. I have several times thanked the hosts for providing the environment for doing very nerve wreaking (for me) analysis.

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May Allah Taala make us all keys to the gates of goodness and locks on the gates of wickedness. Ameen.

I also say Aameen to that.
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#70 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 10:58
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No, it's a question if he rejects 3000+ architects in favour of the governments advice from 1 single company who couldn't explain their outcome when interviewed and the questions raised accompanied evidence and explanations. Appeal to Authority lacks evidence. Here it was provided.

Nice try though.

It is about believing or rejecting conspiracy theories of some Maulawis having no authority in Physics.
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#71 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 11:18
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This reply is not about the post quoted above.

In an earlier post you had most graciously suggested that I should be indulgent towards the young Maulawis. That is very honourable proposition. Personally I can barely manage that. I have my limitations as a human being. More than that I do feel that this is very felicitous thing to do that. I also admit that service to Deen is higher service than worldly service to Ummah that I have been focusing upon. But at some point of time it became clear to me that I want my reward from Allah SWT in the field of worldly affairs.

So while there will be people like you and many others whom I shall miss but I have lost interest here. I have to put it on record that SF and MS have been the best companies that I have enjoyed. You will be surprised that the second company that I like after SF and MS is of the non-Muslims of my research community.

Company of my Shaikh has taught me lots of things to deal with losses like the one I am talking about but still it is difficult to deal with this change that I am implementing.

Incidentally yesterday Professor Ariful Islam called me a Maulawi. Before that late engineer Ahmed Salim Pirzada had called me a Maulawi three times.

If Maulawis dislike me and the worldly people call me a Maulawi then I must be doing at least something right. (Just kidding.)
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#72 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 14:22
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3000+ architects, hundreds of cgi/composite experts are not Mawlawis I can assure you. But that won't mean anything to you as you're infatuated with the official terrorist and criminal Kuffar government's explanation of bespoke physics that only applies to 9/11. No amount of evidence will suffice for you. You should take your leave to a more suitable platform of the ones you follow like reddit, Twitter, YouTube or Facebook.

We won't stop sharing the truth and it'll probably make you sick. So my advice for your mental health is to join those who you follow in this world and pray that you're not raised with them in the hereafter.
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#73 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 16:18
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I have to put it on record that SF and MS have been the best companies that I have enjoyed. You will be surprised that the second company that I like after SF and MS is of the non-Muslims of my research community.
I am not surprised in the least, because outside of deeni majalis which I am most comfortable in, I too am most at home in the company of the mostly non Muslim experts in my area of expertise.

When I was far from deen, I thought maulvis knew nothing. When Allah Taala brought me closer to deen, I understood the high status of maulvis.

There is a brother in our neighborhood who runs a stationary. He once told me that a college degree is useless in the real world. I asked him how much he had studied, and he told me he only studied up to high school.

I know many college undergraduates who tell me a postgraduate education is useless. I know many secular people who tell me maulvis are useless.

It is a human failing. We cannot appreciate what we've never been properly exposed to.

Someone who has not worked in professional research can never fathom Maripat Sahab's expertise.

I only listen to maulvis in their proven field of expertise, as I do with all other professionals in their proven respective fields.

I refuse to accept the negative personal opinion of any one alim about another alim, no matter his lofty status, because I know he is after all only human. I only accept the opinions of reputable institutions in such matters.

For years in my youth, I was wholly taken in by slick presentations on certain contentious topics. It was only after being exposed to a rigorous professional research environment that I learnt how to sift through information and separate the authentic from the dubious. I owe that aspect of my development to the harsh critical cross examination of my reasearch advisors. Someone who has not been through that grinding mill cannot possibly understand what professional research is all about.
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#74 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 16:27
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that won't mean anything to you as you're infatuated with the official terrorist and criminal Kuffar government's explanation of bespoke physics that only applies to 9/11.
I respectfully urge you brother Yasin to reconsider your words, unless you mean only to engage in light hearted banter using sarcasm.
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#75 [Permalink] Posted on 13th March 2022 17:06
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I meant every word with sincerity. No point sugar coating reality.

Neither of you are in any position to judge Aalims. Even though I can confirm you are right and I can say that most Aalims are not Aalim Baa Amal and nor are many clued on about worldly matters which they should be, according to your own lies about following experts which you have proven not to with the reason that you are in no position to deny the experts lies, the same applies here. You are in no position to judge Aalims (who you call Maulvees in an almost derogatory way).
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