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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 19th February 2022 16:34
I have to address another quote of yours that would have made an entire Majlis of Iblees proud.

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The Maulawi class has very troublesome attitude towards Science in general and Physics in particular. Hence my difficulty is not specific about Asaaghir.


Ulamaa have done proud by sciences, advancements and documentation throughout history. Ulamaa were never taken in by the lustful glitz and glamour of your scientism.

Brother, I mean this in the most clear way possible. Your constant thoughts to your most highest capacity running 24 hours straight cannot even compare to an accidental thought of Ulamaa with the clarity Allah bestows on their knowledge. Do not look down upon Ulamaa. It wasn't difficult to destroy your cartoon theory and it's laughable how someone like you can assume you can comment on Ulamaa of science.

Ulamaa never struggled with sciences. Scientism struggled with Ulamaa and you'll never get close to it inshaAllah.
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 19th February 2022 17:52
I will start appreciating and trusting modern-day "science" when it is able to actually present something scientific that is truly impartial and not influenced by the people who are in power at a certain moment in time.

The so-called "scientists" need to stop pretending they are still in the era of Newton when at the very least science was still science.
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 19th February 2022 17:56
If this is the state of our teachers, God help us!

Like the man said in the video, even a 6 year old knows that wasn't real!

Collapse v free-fall, huge difference. That's not even like comparing a barelwi to a deobandi. More like comparing an Nigerian and a Chinese man.

I am in dismay!
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 19th February 2022 18:51
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I would appreciate if you could tell me what your thoughts are on the following.

Q1: WTC 7: Did it collapse or was it a controlled demolition?

Q2: WTC 7: Did it come down at free fall speed?

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When I pressed Muadh on this building, he admitted he wasn't aware of certain facts I presented to him, yet he produced a booklet within days after the incident and missed vital information but will still stick to what the government sold, SubhanAllah.
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2022 09:57
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I would appreciate if you could tell me what your thoughts are on the following.

Q1: WTC 7: Did it collapse or was it a controlled demolition?

Q2: WTC 7: Did it come down at free fall speed?

A1: In my view it was a collapse.
A2: A collapse is slightly different from free fall.
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When I pressed Muadh on this building, he admitted he wasn't aware of certain facts I presented to him, yet he produced a booklet within days after the incident and missed vital information but will still stick to what the government sold, SubhanAllah.

Muadh Khan is a human being and he can commit mistakes. I am not admitting that he committed mistake in above case.

Mr Yasin took absolutely unwarranted action against him in a case that did not deserve such a harsh treatment.

It is your forum and you can take similar action against me. I shall not be missing you people.

But Allah SWT will award you people for hosting me all along.

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2022 09:57
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Absolute definition of brainwashed. I'm sorry you're so beyond fooled that you cannot even understand your own contradictions and absurdity of cartoon physics and animations.

I just wanted to be sure by asking some simple questions before I kept an eye on your uneducated knowledge in this matter.

You believe in your own words that a tiny insignificant pigeon can cause huge damage to engines. Made from flesh and tiny bones. We've seen photos and videos, yes there is evidence. Physics confirms this. It can be replicated. Then at the same time, you believe this same fragile plane that could not withstand flesh and bones penetrated a steel reinforced concrete building like a hot knife through butter and clearly fell FREE FALL shown with a timer accurate to 1/1000th second and claiming it wasn't when you can observe it.

If you think that is science then this is a perfect example of how Allah can use the same knowledge to guide those whom he wills and how he can lead astray to a dangerous dark reality where pride and arrogance is all that surrounds him and he cannot even fathom basic stupidity.

In civilized society this is called misbehavior.
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I have to address another quote of yours that would have made an entire Majlis of Iblees proud.

On the Judgement Day I do not want to be held because of you and hence I am forgiving you.
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Ulamaa have done proud by sciences, advancements and documentation throughout history. Ulamaa were never taken in by the lustful glitz and glamour of your scientism.

This is compounded ignorance.
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Brother, I mean this in the most clear way possible. Your constant thoughts to your most highest capacity running 24 hours straight cannot even compare to an accidental thought of Ulamaa with the clarity Allah bestows on their knowledge. Do not look down upon Ulamaa. It wasn't difficult to destroy your cartoon theory and it's laughable how someone like you can assume you can comment on Ulamaa of science.

You deserved Harris Hammam.
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Ulamaa never struggled with sciences. Scientism struggled with Ulamaa and you'll never get close to it inshaAllah.

See my earlier comment.
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I will start appreciating and trusting modern-day "science" when it is able to actually present something scientific that is truly impartial and not influenced by the people who are in power at a certain moment in time.

The so-called "scientists" need to stop pretending they are still in the era of Newton when at the very least science was still science.

You are immensely polite as compared to that imbecile Yasin and thanks for that.
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If this is the state of our teachers, God help us!

Like the man said in the video, even a 6 year old knows that wasn't real!

Collapse v free-fall, huge difference. That's not even like comparing a barelwi to a deobandi. More like comparing an Nigerian and a Chinese man.

I am in dismay!

You too are very polite and thus I shall take the opportunity to opine on a technical point that I can not in answer to fool Yasin.

It was not the plane that cut through the WTC tower like a hot knife through butter. The plane melted into the tower and lost its existence just like the pigeons get melted into plane engines.
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2022 12:22
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It was not the plane that cut through the WTC tower like a hot knife through butter. The plane melted into the tower and lost its existence just like the pigeons get melted into plane engines.

The plane melted INTO the tower or the plane melted IN the tower?

My view is that the plane could not have fully entered the plane, could not have penetratreated fully into the tower, could not have melted its way into the tower.

If we go by your opinion that the plane melted once inside the tower, that would mean everyone and everything inside the plane would've also melted.

With the exception of the black box! But if the planes fuel was capable of melding the towers, then I'm certain the black box would've melted along with every passenger.

Also with the exception of the passports held by the hijackers which were found a few blocks away.

Now we have to understand how a tower, the plane, the people, all got burnt and melted with the exception of the passport!

Science, maths, physics, Newton, Einstein and the rest of them put together can never answer this question so we will just have to accept the government's narrative as truth beyond doubt :(

In civilized society this is called lies
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2022 12:44
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One of the most consistently used facts by 9/11 conspiracy theorists is that the grade of steel used in the World Trade Center simply couldn't melt at the temperatures fires created when jetliners slammed into the structures. And they're right. Steel's melting point is 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit (1510 Celsius).

Steel's melting point is 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit (1510 Celsius). Yet jet fuel only burns between 800 and 1500 degrees Fahrenheit (426.7 and 815.5 Celsius)

Looks like the term "conspiracy theorists" is used for those who belive in the government's defence. The tides have turned!

We live in a world where science is no longer required.

We use science to understand the scriptures hidden meanings.

Today, we only believe what they tell us to believe, hence why the importance of waking up to lies is given in this forum!

Things can be made to appear as intended, not necessarily represent what happened
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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2022 12:53
Assalamualaikum.

We have very few places left where civilized discussions can take place.

Everyone please pause a little, and do not let your emotions get the better of you.

At the end of the day we are still talking to our brothers and sisters here.
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2022 19:56
Bismillah.

Leave the good professor alone.
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 21st February 2022 10:57
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Muadh Khan is a human being and he can commit mistakes. I am not admitting that he committed mistake in above case.

Mr Yasin took absolutely unwarranted action against him in a case that did not deserve such a harsh treatment.

Mr Khan is promoting mass murder, genocide and terrorism in the guises of government wars and killing innocentcivilians. He is a covert Hanbali and goes by the name Abu Salih al Hanbali when it suits him (read his comments on youtube videos) and a Hanafi when he's on forums. At least HH is open about his views.

We have been blinded by his breakdowns but the reality has become very apparent.

I have a thread challenging Muadh, I have sent it to his group of wifaqul ulama to pass on to Muadh. He or his ulama have failed to respond and now I learn that he has also abandoned this group of ulama.

Muadh Khan is quick to expose Hanafi ulama with fraud, deception, perversion, bribery and so on, but he cannot accept that the kuffar regimes can ever cause harm to their own people, kill masses of people. He has labelled certain ulama as sell-outs but cannot for the life of him accept that the kuffar can also be sell outs.

Muadh is filled with knowledge and has used that to convince people to follow him. Sometimes rightly and at other times by bullying.


This thread was to challenge you my brother (Maripat - in a nice way) and I believe you have accepted defeat indirectly yet you will still promote your idea that Muslims are to blame for 9/11.

I was hoping to expose Gandhi with his links to the templars, how he was placed in a specific educational institute for this purpose. How he deceived his people and last but not least, how he was a pervert and gay! But I feel I would be wasting my time as what is in the hearts of people has been etched into it so badly that no matter what evidence is brought forward, no matter how logical the presentation is, your kind will not budge.

I will find some time to do a short post on facts that have till now been dismissed as theories. It will cover a few topics with very basic points many will be able to relate to in one way or another!
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 21st February 2022 11:40
It's not just the problem of one guy. Most Muslims will rant about other Muslims being hazrat worshippers all the while worshipping the kuffar and mushrikeen themselves. For the sole reason that the latter group appears to be successful in terms of the dunya. The desire to be included amongst the "successful" and "civilized" is so desperate, they will not hear one word against them.
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 21st February 2022 14:02
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At the end of the day a lot comes down to this. Dunya.

Indians tend to be lured a lot more easily than others.
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 21st February 2022 18:56
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I'm not good at this and I should leave it to the experts who know how to make everyone follow each step of the way until the final question is asked. So I'll skip to the end :( well almost :)

Here's one I did earlier ;)
www.muftisays.com/forums/24-help--support/13020-how-to-re...

It will provide every answer to brother Maripat InshaAllah.

Undisputed :)
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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 21st February 2022 21:47
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“The [Twin Tower] building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on
your screen door.”—Frank A. DeMartini, Architect and WTC Construction Manager
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