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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 15:02

Asalamualaikum respected brothers.

This is sort of confusing, so, I'll try to be clear.

1) On Monday, I woke up to fast, and awoke at 07:00am for Sehri, and thought the end time was 07:23am (end of Fajr time). The actual end time for Sehri was 05:42am (start of Fajr time).

I got the 2 mixed up. Are my fasts valid?

2) On Tuesday, I woke well the start of Fajar time, but got the actual time wrong by a few minutes, and likely continued eating after that time, and even brushed my teeth. I realised this yesterday when checking the time for today on our timetable.

Can, some brothers kindly clarify.

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 15:13

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I have to ask about a very serious problem pertaining to my fasts.I am a hanafi muslim and want an answer according to that.Now this the problem which refers to one being completely and innocently ignorant.It is a problem regarding to Ramadan fasts and the the missing ramadan fasts which are kept afterwards.Islam has a very humanistic approach and I want a correct answer to the problem as I am confused and worn away.I belong to Pakistan.Since my childhood my parents and their grand parents used to say that you can keep on eating until the Adhan of Fajar,till the last azan.Now in almost every ramadan I and my family used to eat And there are about 450 fasts which i kept like this including the qaza fasts.Now when I am an adult I am so depressed as a mufti sahib told me all your fasts are invalid as you should have concluded your eating at the start of adhan.It is now not humaly possible to keep all those fasts.I have got so low spirited that I have stopped fasting my remaining qaza fats as Allah have not accepted my previous fasts.I have given up!!! Then I turned to awebsite www.islam.qa.com which says that"It is obligatory for the fasting person to refrain from things which break the fast from the true dawn until the sun sets. What is means is when dawn breaks, not the adhaan. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

�and eat and drink until the white thread (light) of dawn appears to you distinct from the black thread (darkness of night)�

I gained hope now another mufti sahib told me that Your fasts are not valid.What should I do now.Is there an alternate or I will have to keep All 450 fasts which I think is a great ordeal and now how can I do it.I mean are you not supposed to be given some compensation or the rule is that strict.
jazakallah khair

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Firstly, make taubah to Allah for the fasts you have performed incorrectly. Insha Allah, Allah will forgive this mistake of yours.

Secondly, what is meant in the verse below:
'...and eat and drink, until the white thread of dawn appear to you distinct from its black thread; then complete your fast Till the night appears...' (Surah Al-Baqarah, verse 187), in terms of the white thread refers to subh saadiq (true dawn). As you have mentioned, a person is required to start fasting from subh saadiq till sunset (Ta'leemul Haq).

There are many ways to check the timings of subh saadiq and one of it is by looking at the sky to see whether one can sight the 'white' light spreading across the horizon from the eastern side. Another method is by the commencing of adhaan. When the adhaan is heard, that means subh saadiq has started, thus a person should stop eating and drinking. It does not mean that when the adhaan ends will the time of subh saadiq begin.

If none of these methods are available to a person, then he should consult the given timetable of the salaah times. Based on this, he will be able to see when Fajr starts and then cease the actions that will break a person's fast then.

Since your actions only require qadhaa of the fasts that you have performed incorrectly, you will not need to make kaffarah (expiation). Fidyah (compensation) on the other hand, can only be given by very old people who have no strength to fast anymore or people with severe sickness and has no hope in recovering after Ramadhaan (Ta'leemul Haq). Other people are therefore not entitled to pay fidyah.

The best way for you to make up for your fasts is to strive on fasting during the sunnah days for a person to fast which are:

1) 9th and 10th of Muharram (2 days)
2) 13, 14 and 15th of every lunar month (33 days excluding Ramadhan)
3) 6 days of Shawwal (6 days)
4) Mondays and Thursdays (88 days excluding Ramadhan)

*Extracted the sunnah days of fasting from Nurul Idhoh

Insha Allah, you will be able to complete your qadhaa fast soon as long as you are determined and steadfast. If you calculate, you are able to complete your qadhaa fasts within 3 1/2 years insha Allah. A whole lot faster if on top of performing the recommended sunnah fast, you perform the fast of Nabi Dawood ('alaihis salaam) - to fast every other day, and this is the most beloved fast to Allah Ta'ala.

May Allah make things easy for you.

And Allah knows best.

Wassalam.

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 15:18

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None of this really answers my questions.

I'm doing Kaffarah, and been told any fasts missed/broken, you've to start the entire cycle again. That's 60 days non-stop.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 15:18

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If I get up late in the morning to fast after Fajr Salaat , can I still say neeyat and start fasting?

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One can make the intention after Subah Sadiq (Fajr time) as long as one did not eat food etc. However, It is virtuous to make Niyyah of fast during Subah Sadiq. (Al Fiqhul Hanafi Wa Adillatuhu Vol. 1 Pg. 363)

To read more, please refer to: qa.muftisays.com/index.php?viewpage=viewQA&question=2657

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 15:22

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1) If someone breaks a nafil fast is kaffara necessary if a) the fast was breaken for no reason b) was broken with a valid reason i.e. being sick 2) Sometimes when I am keeping a nafil fast like the fast of Shawwal and someone offers food early in the day. I break the fast and keep it later. Is this bad?

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1. In both instances (a and b), only Qadhaa and no Kaffaarah is necessary. (Tahtaawi pg.377)

2. This act should be refrained from as it is Makrooh to do so. (Shaami vol.2 pg.328 – 329). Sayyiduna Abu Hurayra (Radhiallaahu Anhu) reports that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, ?When any of you are invited (for meals) he should attend, if is not fasting he should partake of the meals and if he is fasting he should make Du?aa for that person.? (Sahih Muslim)

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 15:24

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I broke a furdh fast in Ramadan.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 15:24

The Fiqh of Fasting

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In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Ta`limu’l-Haq chapter on Fasting (Sawm) taught by Shaykh Abdur-Rahman ibn Yusuf on Sunday, October 20th, 2002 and Sunday November 3rd, 2002. Notes in brackets [such as (F: )] are from Faraz Rabbani.

Fasting in the month of Ramadan is one of the five pillars of Islam.

Fasting in the month of Ramadan is fard upon every Muslim, male and female, who is sane and mature.

Almighty Allah has promised great reward for those that fast, whilst severe punishment is in store for those who do not fast in the month of Ramadan.

Fasting has many physical, moral and social benefits. However, Allah has made fasting compulsory so that we become pious, God-fearing and God-conscious.

Fasting in Islam means to stay away from eating, drinking and cohabitation from true dawn (subh sadiq, beginning of fajr time) to sunset with an intention of fasting.

TYPES OF FAST

There are eight types of fasting. They are as follows:

Specific obligatory (fard) fast: Fasting for the whole month of Ramadan once a year.

Non-specific obligatory (fard) fast: The duty upon one to make up a fast missed in the month of Ramadan with or without a valid reason.

Specific necessary (wajib) fast: To vow to keep a fast on a specific day or date for the sake of Allah, upon the fulfillment of a wish or desire (nadhr)

Non-specific necessary (wajib) fast: To vow or pledge to keep a fast without fixing any day or date, upon the fulfillment of a wish (nadhr). Those fasts which are kept for breaking one’s qasm (oath) also fall under this category.

Confirmed sunna fast: Those fasts which the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) kept and encouraged others to keep. E.g., fasting on the 9th and 10th of Muharram, and the 9th of Dhul Hijja, etc.

Recommended fast: All fasts besides fard, wajib, and sunna are mustahabb. E.g., fasting on Mondays and Thursdays.

Disliked fast: Fasting only on the 9th or 10th of Muharram or fasting only on Fridays. Some scholars hold it permissible to fast on the 9th and 10th of Muharram since distinguishing our fast from that of the Jews no longer applies, as the Jews no longer fast on those days.

Impermissible fast: It is haram to fast on five days during the year. They are: `Eid al-Fitr, `Eid al-Adha, and three days after `Eid al-Adha.

THE INTENTION (Intention)

The intention of fasting is necessary. If a person stays away from all those things that break one’s fast without an intention, the fast will not be valid.

It is not necessary to express the intention verbally as intention simply means to intend. Thus, the firm determination of the heart will suffice. However, it is better to express the intention verbally also: Bi sawmi ghadin nawaytu (‘And I intend to fast tomorrow’)

The time for intention lasts up to midday for specifically obligatory, specifically necessary, sunna and recommended fasts. This is mid-way between the beginning of fajr time to sunset (the beginning of maghrib time).

The intention for non-specifically obligatory and non-specifically necessary fasts must be made before the beginning of fajr time.

[F: The time for intention starts from Maghrib time of the night before.]

DU`A AT THE TIME OF BREAKING FAST

Allahumma inni laka sumtu wa bika amantu wa `ala rizqika aftartu or

Allahumma laka sumtu wa bika amantu wa `alayka tawakkaltu wa `ala rizqika aftartu

(‘O Allah, I have fasted for You, believed in You, placed my trust in You, and broken my fast on your provision’)

MUSTAHABBS IN FASTING

To partake of the pre-dawn meal (suhur) before fajr time enters.

To delay this meal to a little before fajr time.

To break the fast immediately after sunset.

To break one’s fast with dry or fresh dates if available. If dates are not available, then with water.

To make the intention at night.

THINGS DISLIKED WHILE FASTING

To chew gum, rubber, plastic items or other such things (F: which are chewed, but not swallowed, and nothing reaches the stomach, for otherwise the fast would be broken).

To taste any article of food or drink and spit it out (F: without anything being swallowed). If a woman has a very ill tempered husband, it is permissible for her to taste the food, provided it does not go down her throat.

To collect one’s saliva in the mouth and then to swallow it, trying to quench thirst.

To delay a bath that has become obligatory intentionally until after fajr time.

To use paste or tooth powder to clean one’s teeth. It is permitted to use a miswak of any permissible fresh branch or root (tooth stick). [If one wishes to use toothpaste, one should brush one’s teeth before the fast begins.]

To complain of hunger and thirst.

To take the water too much up the nostrils when cleaning the nose.

To gargle more than necessary (f: because if any water goes down the throat, even accidentally, the fast is invalidated).

To quarrel, argue, use filthy or indecent words.

To backbite, tell a lie and swear are sinful acts even when one is not fasting. Therefore they become even worse when fasting.

THINGS THAT BREAK ONE’S FAST

Things that break one’s fast are of two kinds. Some make only a makeup necessary, whilst others make both a makeup and expiation (kaffara) compulsory.

(A) Makeup: To keep one fast in place of one that breaks, or is broken intentionally.

(B) Expiation: To fast for sixty consecutive days.

However, if a person is genuinely unable to keep these 60 fasts, for a truly valid reason, such as continuous sickness (F: based on reasonable surety, which requires either clear signs, relevant past experience, or the reporting of a qualified and upright Muslim doctor), then one has the option of choosing from one of the following four:

Feed sixty poor people to their fill for two meals, or

Feed one poor person two meals a day, for sixty days; or

Give sixty poor persons 3½ lbs. (approx. 1.6 kg.) of wheat or its value in cash or food grains;

Give to one poor person not less than 3.5 lbs. of wheat, rice or food grains, etc. or its value in cash for sixty days.

THINGS THAT BREAK ONE’S FAST BUT REQUIRE ONLY A MAKEUP

Anything put by force into the mouth of a fasting person.

Water going down the throat whilst gargling, (whilst being conscious of one’s fast).

To vomit mouthful intentionally or to return vomit down the throat.

Intentionally swallowing a pebble, piece of paper or any item that is not used as food or medicine.

Swallowing something edible, equal to or bigger than a grain of gram which was stuck between the teeth. However if it is first taken out of the mouth and swallowed, it will break the fast whether it is smaller or bigger than the size of a gram.

Dripping oil into the ear canal (F: such that it goes beyond the ear drum).

Inhaling snuff into the nostrils.

Swallowing the blood from the gums if the color of the blood is more than the saliva with which it is mixed.

To eat and drink forgetting that one is fasting and thereafter thinking that the fast is broken, to eat and drink again. [F: There are three ways something can enter your body cavity while fasting:

Deliberately. This breaks the fast;

Forgetfully. This does not, because of the Prophetic (Allah bless him & give him peace) guidance that it does not. (Otherwise, legal reasoning (qiyas) alone would have indicated that it does.)

Mistakenly/Accidentally. This breaks the fast. An example: what you mentioned; or if one ate thinking that fajr time had not come in or maghrib time come in, when the contrary was true.]

10. To eat and drink after subha sadiq or to break the fast before sunset due to a cloudy sky or a faulty watch, etc., and then realizing one’s fault.

N.B. Any fast other than a Ramadan one, whether broken intentionally or with a good and valid reason, makes only a makeup necessary [F: this is true even for non-obligatory fasts, because of the legal principle in the Hanafi school that, ‘. There is no kaffara for breaking any fast besides that of Ramadan.

THINGS THAT MAKE BOTH MAKEUP AND EXPIATION NECESSARY (WAJIB)

(Note that this applies only to a current Ramadan fast only)

Intentionally eating, drinking or breaking the fast in any other manner, such as smoking, without a valid reason (f: that is, deliberately, while aware) will make both qada and kaffara necessary (F: unless there is a legal excuse that wards off the necessity of expiation, such as it not being a complete offense, such as in the case of ejaculation through any means other than actual intercourse).

Applying kohl (antimony or surma) into the eye or rubbing oil on the head and then, thinking that the fast is broken, to eat and drink intentionally.

To drink any kind of medicine intentionally (when one is not seriously sick).

THINGS THAT DO NOT BREAK THE FAST

To eat and drink something unintentionally.

A mosquito, fly or any other object going down the throat unintentionally.

Water entering the ears.

Dust or dirt going down the throat.

Swallowing one’s own saliva.

Taking an injection.

Applying of surma (kuhl: antimony) into the eyes.

Taking a bath to keep cool.

Rubbing oil onto the body or hair.

To vomit unintentionally.

Applying itr or perfume. It is not permitted to inhale the smoke of loban or agar batti whilst fasting. It is also not permitted to smoke cigarettes or inhale its smoke.

Brushing the teeth without tooth paste or powder, e.g., using a miswak, etc.

A dream which makes ghusl wajib (necessary) does not break the fast.

PEOPLE EXEMPTED FROM FASTING IN RAMADAN

Sick people when their health is likely to be badly affected by fasting. (F: This needs to be established by reasonable surety of one’s actual or effective inability through manifest signs, relevant past experience, or the medical advice of a qualified and upright Muslim doctor.) They should make up the loss, a day for a day, when they recover after Ramadan.

A traveller (one who is undertaking a journey of more than 77 kms (48 miles) and does not intend staying more than 14 days at his destination). However, it is better for him to fast in Ramadan than to fast later, provided the journey is not a demanding one.

If it is feared that hunger or thirst will lead (F: during the fast) to death (F: or harm, by reasonable surety, as described above), it is permitted to break one’s fast.

It is necessary (wajib) to makeup of a nafl fast that was broken before completing it.

THE EXPIATORY PAYMENT (FIDYA) FOR FASTING

A very old person who does not have the strength to fast or a very sickly or diseased person who has no hope of recovering after Ramadan must make an expiatory payment for each fast missed in Ramadan.

The expiatory payment for a fast is similar to that of a missed obligatory or necessary prayer:

To give 3½ lbs (approx. 1.6 kg) of wheat or 7 lbs (approx. 3.2 kg) of barley.

Or the equivalent of the above in cash or kind.

If, however, an old or sick person gains strength or recovers after Ramadan, he must keep the missed number of fasts and whatever was given as fidya will be a reward for him from Allah Most High.

No one is allowed to fast for another (sick or fit) person. [Hajj can be made for another person (F: under certain conditions), but one it is not valid to pray or fast for another person.]

NB: Children should be encouraged to fast, but should not be forced to complete the fast up to sunset if they are unable to bear the hunger or thirst.

I`TIKAF (retreat)

I`tikaf means to enter the masjid with the intention of remaining therein (f: in worship).

Mu`takif: One who makes i`tikaf.

TYPES OF I`TIKAF: WAJIB, SUNNA & MUSTAHABB

WAJIB: To vow or pledge to make i`tikaf (on a fixed day) for the sake of Allah upon the fulfillment of some wish or desire. The least duration of a wajib i`tikaf is one day and night and it must be accompanied by a fast.

SUNNA MU’AKKADA: To reside the last ten nights and days of Ramadan in the masjid is sunna mu’akkada `ala kifaya, i.e. If a person from the community fulfils the obligation of i`tikaf the entire community will be absolved of this sacred duty. Otherwise all the residents will be sinful of neglecting this sunna of our Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace).

MUSTAHABB OR NAFL: This i`tikaf can be for any amount of time, even for a few minutes.

No fast is conditional for mustahabb or nafl i`tikaf.

CONDITIONS OF I`TIKAF:

Islam.

Sanity i.e. a person should not be mad.

Tahara – to be free from hadath akbar (major impurity).

Intention – intention.

It is makruh to remain silent intending it to be a form of worship.

A woman’s i`tikaf is in her area of prayer and `ibada (musalla) in her home. The middle of the house is better than the front part, and the back is better than the middle.
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 15:25

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 15:34

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 15:42

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Jazak'Allah.

If I'm understanding correctly both fasts are valid despite not knowing, thanks. I'll have to start again.

I'm going to check what the other madhabs say regarding this.

You can close the thread.

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 15:51

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You haven't read it correctly.

The fasts are invalid and will need Qadha only not kaffarah.

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 16:01

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Yes, I realise, they're both invalid, but this was a kaffarah fast. So, I assume, I have to start all over again.

It's 60 fasts non-stop if I am not mistaken.

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 16:05

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Allahu alum. I dont know if the kaffarah fasts you have kept up until now, will suffice for the Qadha.

This is a whole new question and will require a specific answer.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2014 16:07

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Hoping Maulana Yasin, Huzaifah, or Mufti saheb can help.

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