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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 8th August 2014 19:03

Asslamo Allaikum Mufti Saheb,

I have not understood this matter so please help...

As far as my limited Islamic knowledge is concerned there are only 2 classical ways to moonsighting:

  1. Local
  2. Global

The latest hybrid version where some people want to follow "Global Sighting" but then set a specific location i.e. Saudia, South Africa is an Ijtehadi issue based on personal preference.

As a Muslim resident in Britain if we are satisfied with the moonsighting system of Hawaii and the news reaches us in an acceptable manner (overlooking the inconvenience of time difference) then doesn’t it fall under “Global Sighting”?

Is there any examples in Hanafi Madhab where a specific location i.e. Baghdad (due to being centre of Caliphate) or even Makah etc has been set as a centre for the whole Islamic world to follow? If so then was it set due to political significance (in case of Baghdad) or religious significance (in case of Makkah)?

My understanding is that global sighting means to accept any Shariah compliant sighting

Jazakallahu Khayran

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 17th April 2023 07:05
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Syeduna Umar RA had created a fast communication setup from madeenah to far military expedition. We have not read in any book such a setup was used for Hilal sighting and Eid in Islam world was synced with Makkah or Madinah.

In my city a micro group of about 0.0001% of total Muslim population sync their eids with Makkah.

We have asked this minority group a few questions.

1. Whether the Makkah announcement of hilal ends with borders of India, Bay of Bengal.
2. Their reply is, makkah announcement is valid upto the international dateline near Fiji island.
......... We ask, what is the relevance for this international dateline in Islamic shariah.
......... Whether a dateline exists in shariah? ........... The answer is No!!..... No dateline exists in islam.

3. In India, the announcement from Makkah reaches here in India by 10:30PM.. May be they would have postponed eisha and taraweeh and they were waiting for Makkah announcement.

4. What about Fiji Island, the city of Suva, or Newzealand's Christchurch . By the time announcement reaches them...
..... They would have finished their Saheri meals
..... They offered Taraweeh
..... Mo'takif completed one extra night in Masjid.
..... Their Preparations for Eid start after sunrise.
..... This continues for every Eidul Fitr.
..... Why these Muslims in these countries have to suffer, What is their fault?

Their reply was. "For unity, these Muslims have to offer sacrifice and offer it every year"

Can our brothers from the West offer solution for these Muslims in Australia, Newzealand, Fiji etc. And any authentic narration on International date line.
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 17th April 2023 07:48
Global sighting means if testimony of positive Hilal Sighting reaches Makkah from any other part of world must be accepted and Eid must be announced.

We are witnessing for past few years, Eid is being celebrated a day earlier than Makkah in Khaibar pakhtoon, Waziristan, Mali.

Last year, eid was celebrated in Afghanistan a day earlier than makkah.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 17th April 2023 09:30
Please always post in the correct section. Categories are there for a reason and posting too many times in the wrong section increases our work to move it to the correct section. Doing this often could enable temporary restrictions on starting new topics.
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