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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 8th March 2014 19:43
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Is baby puke impure (najis/napak) ?

Does it invalidates ones wudhu or if one changes his clothes that will suffice ?

I've heard mixed reviews about this. Someone even mentioned no a male baby's puke/vomit is fine but a female baby's isn't, so it's a bit confusing.

Looking forward to the replies.

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 8th March 2014 20:02
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Yes, the vomit of a suckling child is impure when it is mouthful. (Shaami vol.1 pg.266).




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[quote]Bismillah

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The vomit that is full mouth will be considered Najis (impure). (Shaami vol.1 pg.266)

If this is equal to a Dirham, which is the circumference of the inner hollow of the palm then it is Wajib (necessary) to wash this from your garments. If it is less than this amount then it will be Mustahab (preferable).

However, if one forgets this then Salah performed in such clothing will be valid.
(Quduri Pg. 24, Nurul Idhah Pg.53, Hashiyat Tahtawi Pg.157, Ahsanul Fataawa Vol.2 Pg.89)

If it is more than a Dirham then it is Fardh to remove it and Salah with this amount will be invalid. (Quduri Pg. 24, Hashiyat Tahtawi Pg.157)



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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 8th March 2014 20:03
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28. That substance whose discharge causes wudu to break is regarded as najis (impure) and that which does not break wudu will not be najis. Based on this if a little blood oozes out but does not flow out of the mouth of the wound, or if vomitting takes place and it is not a mouthful, and food, water, pus or clotted blood came out - then this blood and this vomit will not be najis. If it falls on the clothing or the body, it will not be obligatory to wash it off. If vomitting was a mouthful, or if blood flowed out of the wound, both will be regarded as impure and necessary to wash. If (immediately) after vomitting a mouthful, one touched a utensil of water with one's mouth, then that utensil will also become impure. It is therefore advisable to take water in one's palms.

29. The same rule will apply to a small child who has been fed with milk and thereafter vomits it out. That is, if it is not a mouthful, it will not be impure, and if it is a mouthful, it will be impure. If the mother performs her salaat without washing out that vomit from her clothing, her salaat will not be in order.

Taken from: Bahishti Zewar Page 63-64 [English Translation; 2005 Edition]
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 8th March 2014 20:09
Jazakala for the replies so far

What about if the vomit is less then a mouthful but happens at several intervals which in the end added together will be more than a mouthful ? As we all know kids can be pretty unpredictable at times.
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2014 11:39

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Fiqh of Baby Vomit:

  • Vomit, including baby vomit, is only considered filthy if it is more than a mouthful, with a mouthful being defined as that which the mouth (of the one vomiting) would not be able to hold in without undue difficulty.

Imam `Ala' al-Din al-Haskafi stated in his Durr al-Mukhtar Sharh Tanwir al-Absar, the most important commentary in Hanafi fiqh for relied upon rulings and all the conditions and details related to them, and amazing in its conciseness:

(And) it is nullified (by vomit that fills the mouth) such that it could only be kept in with difficulty.

This was confirmed by Ibn Abidin in his Radd al-Muhtar, where he cited several authorities who chose this definition.

  •  If the baby vomits more than a mouthful, and it gets on the clothes, note that a small amount of it is excused for the purposes of prayer. It is recommended, whenever reasonably possible to remove such an amount before one prays, but if one does not remove it the prayer is still valid. It is neither blameworthy nor sinful not to remove a small amount of filth before prayer, though one would have left that which is best. This is a great dispensation for many, especially mothers with small children.

The amount excused is the equivalent of about 4 or 5 grams of solid filth, or the extent of the area of the inner palm (around 5 cm in diameter) for liquid filth. Note that it is not needed to measure this; one's judgment is enough. Eventually, of course, one needs to remove the filth, so it does not spread...

 


Vomiting small amounts: Sabab/Majlis

If an individual vomits multiple times and each time, the vomit is less than a mouthful but added together it equals a mouthful, then there are two possible rulings:

  • Imam Abu Yusuf: Consider whether or not the vomiting occurred in the same sitting (مجلس)
  • Imam Muhammad: Consider whether the vomiting occurred for the same reasons (سبب)


Due to the above reasoning, there are a possible 4 scenarios:

  1. The Individual vomited multiple times in different sittings and for different reasons – Wudhu does not break according to Imam Abu Yusuf and Imam Muhammad
  2. The individual vomited multiple times in the same sitting and for one single reason – wudhu breaks according to Imam Abu Yusuf and Imam Muhammad
  3. The individual vomited multiple times in different sittings but for the same single reason – wudhu breaks according to Imam Abu Yusuf not according to Imam Muhammad
  4. The individual vomited multiple times in different sittings but for one single reason – wudhu breaks according to Imam Muhammad not according to Imam Abu Yusuf

NB: On this issue Imam Abu Hanifah agree with the stance of Imam Muhammad

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2014 13:19
Scenario 3 and 4 are the same. Mistake?
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2014 14:36
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There's reason and sitting, two different scenarios. Both scenarios hold different verdicts from both imams.
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2014 14:56
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Sorry, maybe im missing something but please read #3 and 4.

Both talk about an individual vomiting multiple times in diffrrent sittings for one reason. If im misreading, please explain.
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2014 15:32
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Comment posted for them to clarify.
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