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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 14th February 2013 11:37

These posts are from other threads but I think Tahira needed its own thread due to its populartity.

http://www.muftisays.com/forums/the-food-section/7029/asda-tesco-morrisons-sainsbury-s-etc.html?p=40144#40144

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Abu Mohammed
Sent: 20 August 2012 11:45
To: info@tahira.com
Subject: Tahira Foods website enquiry

Name: Abu Mohammed
Email: ---------------
Message:

Salaam, I have a couple of questions and would appreciate it if you
could help me with the answers.

I have read "What is Halal" on your website and would like to confirm the
wording used, "The slaughtering is done in the presence of a Muslim."

Is the Slaughtering done strictly by a Muslim or only in the presence of a
Muslim?

My second question is, "Do the slaughterers use stun to kill, stun to stun,
or mechanical slaughtering, or simple hand slaughtering?"

Jazakallahu Khair for your time and response in advance. May Allah reward
you for the service provided by your firm.

Abu Mohammed.

This email just in from Tahira Foods

Assalamu alaikum Abu Mohammed and Eid Mubarak

In the case of beef and lamb products, the meat come from animal which are
hand slaughtered by Muslims. In the case of chicken however this is done by
a machine in the presence of a Muslim inspector to ensure that the bird is
still alive after it has gone through a mildly electrified bain-marie.

We hope this addresses your question.

Salaam

Tahira Foods Limited
Alperton House
Bridgewater Road
Alperton HA0 1EH

Tel: + 44 20 8795 3113
Fax: + 44 20 8795 4224

Website: www.tahira.com


 

Tahira Certifiers

WIF
World Islamic Foundation

THEY STUN AND MECHANICALLY SLAUGHTER THEIR CHICKENS HOWEVER THEY DO NOT STUN OR MECHANICALLY SLAUGHTER THEIR SHEEP, LAMB, COWS ETC.

ALLOWS STUNNING
ALLOWS MECHANICAL SLAUGHTER
ALLOWS MEAT OF THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK NO MATTER HOW IT IS SLAUGHTERED

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 14th February 2013 11:45


Jazakallahu Khair for your Prompt response.

I find it very sad to say that we will no longer be purchasing Halal products from Tahira as well as those certified by the same company that certifies your meat.

I have read the works of the Scholars who call this method as Halal and strongley disagree with it as do many many more Muslims.

Please see this Q & A below. It is rather long, but it is my duty to inform you of my findings and we consider your meat to be HARAM.

(This is an email I had sent last year)
Mechanical Slaughter In The Light of Quran & Sunnah

(I had sent the whole email again which can be seen here)





Shukran Abu Mohammed.

Please note that we do not operate without specific authority giving us the green light. Sheikh Yussef Qaradawi (Mufti of Qatar), as well as the late Sheikh Zaki Badawi and Sheikh Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah have all allowed us such methods. Of course, the beauty of Islam is that it does encompass a full spectrum of opinions and there is no compulsion allowed as at the end of the day only Allah (SWT) knows best.

Salaam

Tahira Foods Limited Alperton House Bridgewater Road Alperton HA0 1EH

Tel: + 44 20 8795 3113 Fax: + 44 20 8795 4224

Website: www.tahira.com






From: Abu Mohammed
Sent: 20 August 2012 19:20
To: info@tahira.com
Subject: Re: Tahira Foods website enquiry

Jazakallahu khair.

I read what their stance is on this form of slaughter, but once again, this not something millions of Muslims accept with their eyes closed.

See the refutation to their findings here;

www.central-mosque.com/index.php/General-Fiqh/meat-of-ahl...

There are millions of Muslims and non Muslims out there who oppose their verdicts and most them are correct to oppose them.

Jazakallahu khair





----- Reply message -----
From: "Tahira Foods Limited"
To: Abu Mohammed
Subject: Tahira Foods website enquiry
Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2012 10:14 am

Alaikum assalam Abu Mohammed

Each Muslim is encouraged to consult if he finds himself not capable of deciding what to do. We did consult and of course no one is infallible because only Allah (SWT) knows best.

Salaam

Tahira Foods Limited
Alperton House
Bridgewater Road
Alperton HA0 1EH

Tel: + 44 20 8795 3113

Fax: + 44 20 8795 4224

Website: www.tahira.com







From: Abu Mohammed
Sent: 21 August 2012 10:32
To: info@tahira.com
Subject: Re: Tahira Foods website enquiry

Jazakallahu khair.

It is very sad that many Muslims do not take their food seriously. They eat with their eyes closed and even when evidence from Quran and Sunnah are provided, they opt for logic.

The same issue with KFC, many many Muslims have boycotted their takeaways because of mechanical/stun slaughter and this will be the same for all those poultry who follow suite.

Since the UK standards allow kosher and Halal meat that do not need to meet the regulations, I and millions of other Muslims see no reason why they need to bend the rules. The conclusion would be so that these poultry can sell their products to the Halal and non Halal market.

It's a business strategy where the seller is in a win win situation, but Alhumdulillah, the Muslims will not sit back but boycott such products.

InshaAllah, the market for Haram meat which is certified as Halal will drop dramatically.

I am sure your intentions are pure, but it is sad to say that the Muslim businesses do not care for their faith as the Jewish community does.

May Allah guide us to the straight path and keep our intentions purely for his pleasure and not for gains in the dunya.

Sent from my HTC




Abu Mohammed
Sent: 21 August 2012 13:40
To: info@tahira.com
Subject: Re: Tahira Foods website enquiry

I am very pleased with the way you have helped me with my queries.

However, one last thing please.

It is not clear what the process is with the sheep and cows etc. Do they go through the stunning process too as well as mechanical slaughter (which I doubt) or are they shot or gassed before slaughtering.

This final query will help me understand better with regards to your meat.

Jazakallahu khair.

Sent from my HTC



----- Reply message -----
From: "Tahira Foods Limited"
To: Abu Mohammed
Subject: Tahira Foods website enquiry
Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:12 pm

No there is no stunning.

Tahira Foods Limited
Alperton House
Bridgewater Road
Alperton HA0 1EH

Tel: + 44 20 8795 3113
Fax: + 44 20 8795 4224

Website: www.tahira.com






From: Abu Mohammed
Sent: 21 August 2012 15:24
To: info@tahira.com
Subject: Re: Tahira Foods website enquiry

Jazakallahu khair, Alhumdulillah.

Just to confirm in that case, the sheep, goats, lamb, cows etc are NOT stunned.
But are they slaughtered by hand and by a Muslim slaughter man following the standard Islamic method and no machine used to slaughter?

The reason I ask is because according to Shaykh Yusuf al qardawi, any meat slaughtered by the people of the book is Halal NO MATTER HOW IT IS SLAUGHTERED.

Jazakallahu khair.

Sent from my HTC



From: Tahira Foods Limited [info@tahira.com]
Sent: 21 August 2012 15:50
To: Abu Mohammed
Subject: RE: Tahira Foods website enquiry


They are slaughtered by hand by Muslim.


Tahira Foods Limited
Alperton House
Bridgewater Road
Alperton HA0 1EH

Tel: + 44 20 8795 3113
Fax: + 44 20 8795 4224

Website: www.tahira.com







From: Abu Mohammed
Sent: 21 August 2012 15:23
To: info@tahira.com
Subject: Re: Tahira Foods website enquiry


Jazakallahu khair, Alhumdulillah.

Just to confirm in that case, the sheep, goats, lamb, cows etc are NOT stunned.

But are they slaughtered by hand and by a Muslim slaughter man following the standard Islamic method and no machine used to slaughter?

The reason I ask is because according to Shaykh Yusuf al qardawi, any meat slaughtered by the people of the book is halal NO MATTER HOW IT IS SLAUGHTERED.

Jazakallahu khair.

Sent from my HTC




From: Tahira Foods Limited [info@tahira.com]
Sent: 21 August 2012 15:50
To: Abu Mohammed
Subject: RE: Tahira Foods website enquiry


They are slaughtered by hand by Muslim.



Tahira Foods Limited

Alperton House

Bridgewater Road

Alperton HA0 1EH

Tel: + 44 20 8795 3113

Fax: + 44 20 8795 4224

Website: www.tahira.com

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 14th February 2013 12:23
Would you trust MECHANICAL SLAUGHTER

www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Gpr3nLEPo

Youtube Video


This video clearly shows how mechanical slaughter cuts off the birds stomach, missing the throat completely. Some birds miss the blade and are dipped into the scalding tank alive.

Not the Islamic way. This is being Labelled as Halal

This is not to say that this is exactly how Tahira mechanically slaughter their chickens, this is just for reference.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 24th June 2021 22:52
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There is a halal certification company by the name of Tahira.
The following is on their homepage:

Please note that all our beef and lamb products come from animals which have been slaughtered by hand without stunning. Chicken products however use meat coming from birds which first go through a mildly electrified bain-marie before slaughtering but with an inspector on hand to ensure the bird is still alive. Slaughtering happens by machine.

What are the respective ulamā opinion on buying meat/chicken that have been certified by this company.


(I would like to point out that Tahira are not a Halal certification company. They are a Halal certified company, unfortunately)

Response:
Mufti Amjad Mohammed on stunning and mechanical slaughter in response to the methods outlined above.
(Voice recording)
t.me/markazalifta/14659

The answer is based on the methods and not in particular to the company.
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