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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 6th December 2012 05:11
Ablution after Eating Camel Meat?
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Question:
Why does one have to perform ablution 'wudu' after eating camel meat?



Answer:
The following Hadith indicates the necessity of performing 'wudu' after eating camel meat.

Al-Bara' b. Azib narrates that when asked about camel meat, the Holy Prophet replied: "Perform 'wudu' after eating it". On being asked about mutton, He replied: "Do not perform 'wudu' after eating it". [Sunan al-Tirmadhi (81) and Sunan Abi Dawud (184)]

The majority of Muslim scholars do not act upon this narrative. In what follows is the translation of relevant portions of the commentary on the narrative from Tuhfatul Ahwazi, a commentary on the Jaamih al Tirmadhi:

Nawawi said: Scholars have differed on the question whether eating the flesh of camels breaks 'wudu' or not. The majority holds that 'wudu' is not rendered void by eating camel meat. Those who hold this view include the four rightly guided caliphs, (Abu Bakr, 'Umar, 'Uthman, and 'Ali), Ibn Mas'ud, Ibn Ka'ab, Ibn 'Abbas, Abu Darda, Abu Talhah, Aamir Bin Rabi'ah, Abu Amamah, major successors, Imam Malik, Abu Hanifah, Al-Shafi'i and their followers.

Those who consider that it breaks 'wudu' include Ahmed Ibn Hambal, Ishaq Ibn Rahway, Yahya Ibn Yahya, Abu Bakr Ibn Munzar and Ibn Khuzaymah. Hafiz Abu Bakr al Bayhaqi holds the same opinion. Al Hafiz has said in his Takhlis: Bayhaqi says that some of their scholars have reported Shafi'i say: 'if the narrative were authentic I would have also held what it commands'.

Some traditions and the perpetual practice of the Ummah negate and contradict the purport of this narrative. Therefore, the directive mentioned in this Hadith is not considered authentic and applicable.

Regards,

Tariq Mahmmod Hashmi
Research Assistant, Studying Islam

SOURCE = www.studying-islam.org/querytext.aspx?id=238
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 6th December 2012 08:04
The above answer should have contained the Hadith in which the prophet then cancelled this ruling and allowed for us to eat the meat of the camel without renewing our wudhu.

The reason for renewing wudhu in the first place was due to the extreme heat within camel meat.

The same applies for food cooked with fire, at first we were ordered to renew wudhu but then this rule was abrogated by the prophet (saw).
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 6th December 2012 08:34
abu mohammed wrote:
The above answer should have contained the Hadith in which the prophet then cancelled this ruling and allowed for us to eat the meat of the camel without renewing our wudhu.

The reason for renewing wudhu in the first place was due to the extreme heat within camel meat.

The same applies for food cooked with fire, at first we were ordered to renew wudhu but then this rule was abrogated by the prophet (saw).


can you put that hadith here?

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 6th December 2012 08:51
I may be wrong in recollecting the correct narration, but the names mentioned above:

The majority holds that 'wudu' is not rendered void by eating camel meat. Those who hold this view include the four rightly guided caliphs, (Abu Bakr, 'Umar, 'Uthman, and 'Ali), Ibn Mas'ud, Ibn Ka'ab, Ibn 'Abbas, Abu Darda, Abu Talhah, Aamir Bin Rabi'ah, Abu Amamah, major successors, Imam Malik, Abu Hanifah, Al-Shafi'i and their followers.

Is proof beyond doubt.

Remember Imam Maliks position, he would reject Hadith which contradicted the actions of the Sahaba if those actions were in majority.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 6th December 2012 09:41
Some scholars use as proof for abrogation the hadith mentioned above, that that there is need to do wudoo' after eating food that had been touched by fire. (Abu Dawood; al-Nisaa'i)

Other scholars interpet wudu here in its literal meaning.

Shaykh ul Hadeeth Muhammad Zakariyya Kandhlawi (رحمه الله) writes in Differences of the Imams: "The word wudu' is quite common in its technical sense (of ablution before prayer). However, literally, the word wudu' means cleanliness, purity, and washing of the hands. In a narration of the Shama'il of Imam Tirmidhi, Salman once told Allah's Messenger (PBUH) that according to the Torah, wudu' after meals brings about blessings [baraka] in one's food. Allah's Messenger (PBUH) added, 'Wudu' before as well as after the meal is a source of blessing in ones food." In Salman's statement as well as the statement Allah's Messenger (PBUH) , the word wud' unanimously refers to the washing of the hands. In addition, there is a lengthy hadith narrated by 'Ikrsh in Sunan al-Tirmidhi. At the end of the hadith he says, "After partaking of this meal, water was brought before Allah's Messenger (PBUH). He washed his hands and thereafter rubbed them over his face and arms. He thereafter addressed me, 'O 'Ikrsh, the injunction of making wudu' after partaking of something cooked over the fire refers to this (form of) wudu'." 27

In spite of this narration being somewhat disputed [mutakallam fih], we can still establish that the word wudu' is not used in its technical sense but in its literal sense.

Similarly, it is narrated in Jam' al-Fawa'id on the authority of Bazzar that Mu'adh was asked, "Do you perform wudu' after partaking of something cooked over the fire?" He replied, "We wash our hands and mouth after meals and interpret it as wudu" 28

For this reason, all four of the Imams have unanimously agreed that the narrations which mention (the obligation of performing) wudu' after eating something cooked over the fire refers to wudu' in its literal sense (i.e. just washing the hands and mouth). Otherwise such an injunction could have been abrogated. Likewise, on one occasion, 'Ali washed a few parts (of those normally washed during wud') of his body. Thereafter, he commenced, "'This is the wudu' of one whose wudu' is still intact." Therefore, washing only a few parts of the body is not referred to as wudu' in the technical sense.

These are just a few examples where the word "wudu'" is not used in its technical sense. My aim in presenting these examples is to show that the word "wudu'" and other words have been utilized in their literal as well as their technical sense. From this, one can understand the principle cause of differences as well.

Quite frequently, certain narrators will consider the word wudu' in a certain hadith in its technical sense, and they will most probably add an explanation like "wud' such as wud' for salat."29

This is to ensure that no doubt remains and those listening are not left in any confusion. On the other hand, if the word wudu' is not intended in its technical sense but in its literal sense, a narrator will most probably explain that it refers to the washing of the mouth and hands, etc."


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27 Jami' Tirmidhi, Kitabul At'ima (Book 28), Hadith 1855
28 Imam Haithmi, Majma' al-Zawa'id wa Manba' al-Fawa'id, 1/156
29 Sunan Abu Dawud, Kitabul Taharah (Book 1), Hadith 207 etc.



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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 11th December 2012 07:35
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 11th December 2012 12:11
Topic moved to the Food Section.
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