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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd May 2012 11:15

Asslamo Allaikum,

I am getting some emails from concerned Muslims about the following notice about HMC.

I am neither a Scholar nor associated with HMC in anyway and here is my guess:

  1. HMC was a limited company and probably built up debt as a result
  2. They are now trying to shut down their "Limited Company Status" to wipe the debts

Their activities continue as normal under HMC (UK) so Muslims don't need to worry about their Halal Meat or HMC going out of business, it appears to me that they are changing their legal status and classification for one reason or another.

Normally companies do this and inform their customers but I have not seen any information like this on the HMC site and if there is anything there please point it out.

At the end of the day, Muslims don't need to concern themselves; nevertheless an explaination on HMC site would be nice.

Jazakullah khairun

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd May 2012 11:17

Here is another site explaining

2/5/12  HMC (UK) Press release

Halal Monitoring Committee Limited is in the process of being dissolved allowing them to be debt free and to continue their work they have set up as HMC (UK). The following press was issued to us yesterday.

 

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd May 2012 11:23
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They are now trying to shut down their "Limited Company Status" to wipe the debts


Excuse the pun, but "Is this Halal"? They are walking away from debt (karz, if that is what it can be called). Would that be allowed in Islam.

And before anyone reminds me, I know questions should go to the Ulaama, but this is just a discussion.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd May 2012 11:27

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They are now trying to shut down their "Limited Company Status" to wipe the debts
Excuse the pun, but "Is this Halal"? They are walking away from debt (karz, if that is what it can be called). Would that be allowed in Islam. And before anyone reminds me, I know questions should go to the Ulaama, but this is just a discussion.

Asslamo Allaikum,

IF they are doing that; there is no explaination so we don't know what they are doing so we should keep Husn-e-Dhun of Ulamah.

We have no idea whats happening but in general in the business environment this is the most common reason for dissolving a company.

As you know that I am not too keen on HMC idea anyways but they are serving many Muslims so may Allah (SWT) give them Barakah in their work (Ameen).

Sunnah is a always a lot straight-forward, off course.

Allah (SWT) knows best.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd May 2012 11:38
Jazakallah for pointing that key word out, IF.
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd May 2012 16:56
The HMC has had the support of many senior Ulama(see below). (not sure about currently)


Translation of a supportive letter by Justice Mufti Taqi Uthmani

Assalamu `Alaykum

Your letter and the HMC papers with it have been received. Alhamdulillah, the beginning of this project has brought great happiness. May Allah bless your life, knowledge and work. Ameen

This task was indeed one of great need. It will, Insha Allah, be a source of Sadaqah Jariyah (ongoing charity) for you. There is also a need, if the work moves ahead, for including the meat that goes abroad, e.g. to the Gulf States, to the same monitoring system. May Allah assist you. Ameen

(Mufti) Taki Uthmani, Pakistan



Letter of Support by (Shaykul Hadith) Fazlur Rahman Azmi

Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim

I have visited HMC office today with Brother Haroon Rashid and Shaykh Muhammad. I learnt about the system of their work which is carried out under the guidance, support and prayers of the Ulama to provide certification and assurance of authentic Halal slaughtered meat. I am delighted with their work and I wholeheartedly pray for them.

This service is essential without which a pure Islamic life cannot be lived. If the food is not Halal how will the prayers and worship be accepted? The Muslims should support this organisation and always consume and utilise Halal.

May the Almighty save us from Haram and provide us the good of this world and the Hereafter. Ameen.

(Shaykul Hadith) Fazlur Rahman Azmi, Azadville, South Africa
2 Jumada al-Ukhra 1426h / 8 July 2005




Letter of Support by Mufti Ebrahim Desai

Assalamu Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh

May Allah grant you Aafiyah (goodness) in all your endervours and may Allah accept your Halal monitoring service to the Muslims of Europe, Ameen.

It was a pleasure meeting you at our institute in Camperdown in August. I had the opportunity to go through the brochure of HMC (Halal Monitoring Committee) and observed the following:

HMC is well versed with Halal and Haram and is dedicated to its commitment to serve the Halal industry.

HMC has excellent administrative skills to regulate the Halal industry.

HMC has an appropriate high level of certification.
The Muslims of Europe can be rest assured of consuming Halal after a product is certified as Halal by HMC (Halal Monitoring Committee)

Was salaam

Mufti Ebrahim Desai,
Darul Ifta, Madrasah In aamiyyah, Camperdown, KZN, South Africa




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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2012 10:50

"Anonymous" wrote:
The HMC has had the support of many senior Ulama(see below). (not sure about currently) Translation of a supportive letter by Justice Mufti Taqi Uthmani Assalamu `Alaykum Your letter and the HMC papers with it have been received. Alhamdulillah, the beginning of this project has brought great happiness. May Allah bless your life, knowledge and work. Ameen This task was indeed one of great need. It will, Insha Allah, be a source of Sadaqah Jariyah (ongoing charity) for you. There is also a need, if the work moves ahead, for including the meat that goes abroad, e.g. to the Gulf States, to the same monitoring system. May Allah assist you. Ameen (Mufti) Taki Uthmani, Pakistan Letter of Support by (Shaykul Hadith) Fazlur Rahman Azmi Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim I have visited HMC office today with Brother Haroon Rashid and Shaykh Muhammad. I learnt about the system of their work which is carried out under the guidance, support and prayers of the Ulama to provide certification and assurance of authentic Halal slaughtered meat. I am delighted with their work and I wholeheartedly pray for them. This service is essential without which a pure Islamic life cannot be lived. If the food is not Halal how will the prayers and worship be accepted? The Muslims should support this organisation and always consume and utilise Halal. May the Almighty save us from Haram and provide us the good of this world and the Hereafter. Ameen. (Shaykul Hadith) Fazlur Rahman Azmi, Azadville, South Africa 2 Jumada al-Ukhra 1426h / 8 July 2005 Letter of Support by Mufti Ebrahim Desai Assalamu Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh May Allah grant you Aafiyah (goodness) in all your endervours and may Allah accept your Halal monitoring service to the Muslims of Europe, Ameen. It was a pleasure meeting you at our institute in Camperdown in August. I had the opportunity to go through the brochure of HMC (Halal Monitoring Committee) and observed the following: HMC is well versed with Halal and Haram and is dedicated to its commitment to serve the Halal industry. HMC has excellent administrative skills to regulate the Halal industry. HMC has an appropriate high level of certification. The Muslims of Europe can be rest assured of consuming Halal after a product is certified as Halal by HMC (Halal Monitoring Committee) Was salaam Mufti Ebrahim Desai, Darul Ifta, Madrasah In aamiyyah, Camperdown, KZN, South Africa halalmc[dot]net

Asslamo Allaikum Brother/Sister,

Nobody has doubted that and here is the link for people to view in FULL.

Jazakullah Khairun.

P.S: Although it would be nice for the Administrators of their site to correct the spelling of our dear and beloved Shaykh (Mufti) Taqi Usmani (HA).

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2012 20:29
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I have not seen any information like this on the HMC site



what about this released on 18 april? see below:


Press Release
18 April 2012

HMC Continues its Work to Supply Genuine Halal in the UK

HMC Background

  • In September 2011, HMC registered for VAT as agreed with the HMRC
  • Previous to this, HMC believed it was exempt from VAT due to the nature of its work and charity status
  • In early 2012, HMRC informed HMC that it should re-bill all its pre-existing customers for VAT dating back from 2005 and make payments due
  • The majority of pre-existing customers would be able to re-claim VAT from HMRC but could not pay due to cash flow
  • This requirement by HMRC caused HMC to have significant unforeseen cash flow issues, that it could not reconcile and settle with HMRC


After consulting with Scholars, and in response:

  • HMC UK has been established by concerned Trustees and Ulama to continue the work of Halal
  • Since February 2012 it has already taken on the responsibility of supplying genuine halal to 500+ outlets throughout the UK (continuity of halal supply)
  • Yunus Dudhwala, said the "the work for Halal is an important matter within the community and we are pleased with the response and support received"


HMC UK are pleased to support the Muslim Community and continue to provide much needed Halal Certification.

On Behalf of HMC UK
Board of Directors and Trustees

Statement Ends


HMC is a trading name of HMC (UK) which is a company limited by guarantee. Registered in England and Wales. Registration No. 7914375
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2012 16:43
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 12th January 2016 23:28
Alharam
People buy HMC badge to sell haram meat and mislead the public
No Need for HMC
Blackburn HMC fellow was seen taking bribes
Boycot
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 14th January 2016 14:24
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته

@Muadh

What do you mean yo are not too keen on the HMC idea? What alternatives do you suggest? As you rightfully acknowledge they are serving a great need. So why exactly are you not too keen?
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