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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 13th July 2007 14:12
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Slmz - any1 heard about the Subway food chain opening a Halal (?) branch in Selbourne Walk Shopping Centre in Walthamstow??
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 13th July 2007 16:04
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There's a Subway in the shoppping centre and there is one on the corner of high st. (the market)/on hoe st. opened too now (next to ronald brown).
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 16th July 2007 13:27
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The one that is on the corner of high street is the halal one. Went in there on saturday, its the real deal!
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 16th July 2007 14:12
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grateful for some further information as i've heard all sorts from it being formally certified by reputable Halal certyfying bodies to local ulama ok'ing it.


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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 17th July 2007 15:35
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if you contact masjid e umar in walthamstow they can provide u with more details. i am sure the local ulema went and found out that it is halal and allowed the flyers to be distributed outside the masjid.
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 17th July 2007 18:32
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it would be ace if they are. would also be even better if they also asked them after a while to go HMC also as then they'll have a halal certificate from this country also as well as the one they have at present which i think is from Ireland. yum yum.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 24th July 2007 13:02
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Both subways in the shoppung centre and on the high street are halal. Its brilliant. But the high street one is more of a take away stall. Visit the one in the Shopping centre.
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 9th August 2007 19:20
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If masjid e umer said yeah, cana nyone from the masjid tell us all here please so we can all be sure? jazakallah
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2007 07:55
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just a quick comment. regards halal-ing (new word!) something for others one must know 100% what one has to know/do/inspect to ensure that some place is fully halal. e.g. at the recent HMC events at Upton Lane and Stamford Hill HMC showed what it does to ensure something is halal before they tell the wider uk ummah that such and such is halal.

once they halal something it is monitored each month via unannounced visits to all their certified butchers, takeaways and abattoirs checking all their invoices, stocks and paper work (hence why they only give a 4 week certificate at any one time to each of the HMC certified businesses). Recent incidents have shown some withdrawing their request to be HMC'd after a few months then get caught with HMC'd meat and un-hmc'd meat then tearing HMC tapes off some boxes and putting them on non-HMC boxes.

Even before they do this they vigorously inspect the whole business inside out (kinda like a forensic audit to those of you who understand what that term is) to ensure each and every process is halal and these same processes stay halal also as many will show halal certifying bodies that "look we and are processes are halal" to get certified then kinda relax their halal assurance standards once they are ok'd. You MUST ensure (via very regular unannounced inspections and check on paperwork etc) that their halal assurance measures are the same as they were when they were first inspected and certified as halal on a regular constant basis.

If one eats purely on their own accord that's down to them but if they go and tell others that so and so is halal they must be 100% sure they have inspected that place more stringently then a forensic accountant looking through Anderson Consultings book! (with the right knowledge in what to look for and what to inspect and how often to do this) - if brothers have done this fully and properly and continue to do so on a regular basis then it shouldn't be a problem but if not then they need to before they tell others that so and so in halal.

This Subway branch is certified by a Halal certifying body based in Ireland called Islamic Federation of Ireland IFI www.islaminireland.com/IFI/halalFoodMain.html.

The meat at this subway is sourced from a firm based in Ireland (County Kildare, Ireland) called Dawn Farm Foods. Dawn Farm Foods has a sub halal meat division called Habibi which does halal food for Ireland markets aswell as export to other Muslim countries www.dawnfarms.ie/products_habibi.asp

Dawn Farm Foods has got halal certification from a body called Halal Foods Monitoring HFM which far as i know (i will verify later) is IFI which is the only halal certifying body in the whole of Ireland

IFI halal criteria can be read on their website posted above. They fully allow slaughter of Ahle Kitab (fellow Christians and Jews) and also allow Sunni and Shit'e slaughter if they do not stun. HMC (run partly by our maslak (i.e ahle sunnah wal jamaah) ulama) do not allow Ahle Kitab to slaughter and allow Sunni only.


I'm not saying its totally haraam or halal for that matter but whoever has looked into it from Walthamstow ulama or not i hope have fully investigated Subway Walthamstow inside out before telling the masses its halal and/or allowing leaflets to be distributed outside the masjid.


PS Humble note - i do not respond to posts by sisters - so please dont take offence if i dont directly comment. I ask sisters also do the same regards my posts. Jzk
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 26th October 2007 09:29
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Email response from Masjid Umer, Queens Rd, Walthamstow:-

"As-Salamu-Alai-kum

Sorry for not replying to you earlier, please accept my sincere apology.

About Halal Food being sold by Subway the Masjid has not approved or authorised anyone to approve the food or certify it as Halal, further more our Imam has spoken to you directly on this subject.

Was Salaam"
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 29th August 2012 14:10
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just remembered this v.old thread.
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 29th August 2012 14:11
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to confirm HFM is not IFI ...
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 29th August 2012 14:22
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www.muftisays.com/forums/people-s-say/7030/halal-certific...

abu mohammed wrote:
IFI ISLAMIC FOUNDATION IRELAND



They are the ones who certify Subway Halal branches.

NO STUNNING ALLOWED EXCEPT POULTRY
NO MECHANICAL SLAUGHTER ALLOWED
DOES NOT ALLOW MEAT OF THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK IF DONE CORRECTLY

SOURCE


Post updated, Jazakallahu Khair Daywalk3r.
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 29th August 2012 14:26
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 29th August 2012 14:28
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if you have time pls do some further reseearch behind Dawn Farm Food and its sub division Habibi (which is certified by Halal Food Monitoring) as above info is based on my old 2007 emails. Jazakallah
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