as mentioned before in this thread, if it is a trustworthy, god-fearing, pious person who follows the shariah in its entirety who says this meat is halal then it would be praiseworthy to trust such a person, this is the real world and im afraid it is not enough to take the word of anyone unless they meet the criteria of being god-fearing because only such people will not sell your deen for a few pounds.
feel free to read articles related to meat in the following link it gives a better understanding. www.halalmc.org/
HMC is a GUARANTEE which people are comfortable with. it shouldnt affect other people. i personally dont only eat HMC restaurants. as long as the meat is non-stunned. (though i will only by my meat from a butchers who are HMC approved. and thats due to certain reasons)
up north, a butchery did ask to be certified for HMC. HMC agreed so long as they send one man down to check all - which is fine. then they asked to be paid £600 per week to the man who will stay there - thats wrong and un-affordable.
i agree with that point. [quote] in my view if a muslim tells me he is serving me halal food who am i not to believe him
[quote] saying i only eat hmc is rude and says indirectly i am a beta muslim that u! Think about it eh ?
1) only buy meat from HMC certified buthchers & doule check the validity of the certificate every month.
2) only eat in HMC fastfood joint/restaurants
3) avoid eating in dawats (meal invitations) at family/friends house incase they dont buy HMC meat.
4) avoid eating at celebrations such as weddings and walimas.
etc
i hope i have not offended you. just trying to get you to see the other side of the picture. as i mentioned above, i myself dont stick to only HMC.
no idea what the HMC charge is but £50 per month is no way expensive for a business to pay for such a service/membership - which comes to approx £1.65 per day - which as the average joint is open 9 hours per day comes to 0.18p per hour so it IS very very affordabIe.
Such a reIiabIe haIaI food body is very much needed in the UK as money counts for more then the commands of aIIah nowadays- this is the sad reaIity Iike it or not.
Regards the trust issue weII i know i wouIdnt trust ANY oId person off the street be they musIim or non-musIim to say ask me to Iend them some money and they'II pay it back Iater - wouId you just cause they are musIim (and you dont know them at aII)???
onIy if i know that person has taqwa (fear of aIIah in his Iife both inwardIy and outwardIy) wouId i do so - so just the same way i wont Iend any person money who i know dont fear aIIah in paying it back to me i wont trust anyone who doesnt fear aIIah in his responsibiIity in feeding me haIaI food. - if he dont fear aIIah in fuIfiIing his duties towards his Iord (both inward duties and outward) i think its aIoud for me to use caution and think then he probs wont fuIfiI his duties towards other musIims aIso if he cant even fuIfiI aIIah's. - (i think this is what i'm trying to say- sounds kinda confusing!)
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Please delete if u feel this is unnessaray talk-: I just wanted to ask, what does 'joints' mean with regards to this conversation? Is it london dialect for restaurants?
Alhamdulillah, sakeenah no need to delete, it is not unnessary talk when you are trying to understand something.
joints- means places to eat,
maybe Daywalker3r has a better meaning since he started the thread with this title.
Alhamdulillah, sakeenah no need to delete, it is not unnessary talk when you are trying to understand something. joints- means places to eat,
maybe Daywalker3r has a better meaning since he started the thread with this title.
I thought that word was used by druggies i.e joints
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