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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 20th December 2006 16:37

Just thought of starting a thread for Halal places to eat around Hackney as most of us on these forums are from around Hackney and its surrounding area/s. Also as some may know more then others regards the Halal status of the food served at joints in Hackney this may help others who don't.


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Sumam - near Lea Bridge Road Roundabout (Opposite Brook Rd) - HMC certified


Azizya Musjid Restaurant - Their meat is from Najeeb & Sons (Derby) and chicken is from Gafoor Poultry (Preston) both of these are HMC'd - think also Eden Valley may have also supplied them in the past - They are also HMC'd


Any others................................


Some may not be HMC'd but still maybe Halal if brothers/sister have investigated them fully.

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 21st December 2006 12:37
Shawarma King - 72 High Road Leyton, E15 2BP

HMC Certified

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 21st December 2006 13:35
yeh tried dat quite good and good prices also. its on the same road as chicken xpress (good pizzas!) which is also hmc'd and they deliver to stamford hill for minimum 5 orders!!
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 21st December 2006 13:50
You also have Sahara Grill on the same road. Not sure if its HMC?
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 21st December 2006 14:02
yes i know alot of brothers/sisters who also eat there but i dont know where thier meat is sourced from
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd December 2006 19:06
how about places that are HMC approved not only in Hackney but also other area's as not all the users are from Hackney.


Al'a pizza (HMC approved)
upton lane


Zu's
Green st
forest gate


pls remember a HMC certified outlet including Butchery's, who may have their outlet approved one year may not have it approved the next. one would need to continue checking every year on the HMC site to see if an outlet remains approved.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd December 2006 19:08
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd December 2006 11:57
How about chicken spot on manor road, stoke newington??? and therz a new shop next to it aswell, Bismillah Kebab House?
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd December 2006 13:33
chicken spot i dont know some eat there some dont - i personaIIy dont. wouId be good to find out exactIy where they get there stuff from (hard evidence and NOT just words). i hear so much about its ok then its not then it is etc so now i just stay away.


bismiIIah kebab house i dont know. its guji but being guji does not make one a jannati (as most peopIe think!) - i have not eaten there personaIIy cause i just dont know and not that bothered as i mainIy buy from sumam, azzizye or chicken express who deIiver to stamford hiII from their Ieyton high rd branch.

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 10th January 2007 21:26

Beware of HFA - HaIaI Food Authority!!


Media Release

February 23, 2006; immediate use

Radical Muslims Target UK Slaughterhouses Shia and Sunni divisions hit UK as Taliban fundamentalists target animal slaughter A state veterinary officer has blown the whistle on a radical new Islamic group which is demanding that UK slaughterhouses change the way they kill animals for Halal meat. He has told the animal group Viva! that animals killed only by a Sunni Muslim, and who are fully conscious when their throats are cut, are acceptable to the group, which calls itself the Halal Monitoring Committtee (HMC). Some British slaughterhouses have already fallen into line. This rejection of Shias as genuine Muslims is the basis of the religious strife in Iraq.

The Leicester-based official veterinary surgeon (OVS), who fears for his safety and wishes to remain anonymous, says: "The HMC is putting pressure on local butchers to buy only the meat they approve and are then charging them as much as 500 to display their authorisation. They also charge restaurants and slaughterhouses so there is a strong financial incentive in all this as well as a religious motivation".

The HMC admits that it charges slaughterhouses and meat processors up to 250 per month in return for its authorisation.

Until the appearance of the HMC, all official Halal slaughter was overseen and approved by the Halal Food Authority, which supports the stunning of animals before their throats are cut. It also sanctions meat killed by both Sunnis and Shias. The HMC now declares that none of this meat reaches its standards and refuses to approve it - effectively outlawing most available Halal meat as 'Haram' - unclean.

While it claims to adhere to no particular branch of Islam, the HMC insists that only animals slaughter by a Sunni Muslim can be considered Halal*. The denial that Shia and other Islamic sects are genuine Muslims stems from the extreme Saudi Arabian Wahhabi sect, which also produced the Taliban and Al Quaeda. It is driven by the desire to impose Sharia law everywhere, including the UK.

It believes that changes to the Muslim faith since c.950 are unacceptable and these 'innovations, superstitions, deviances, heresies and idolatries' have to be driven out. In the past, Saudi Arabian Wahhabis have launched holy war (jihad) against all other forms of Islam. These divisions are now reappearing in Iraq with the bombing of Shia mosques by fundamentalist Sunnis and in Britain also, it would appear.

Masood Khawaja, President of Halal Food Authority, says: "What the HMC wants to do is take us back to the 15th century. I have heard allegations of intimidation and it is disgraceful. We have reported it to Defra (Department of Food and Rural Affairs) and they have asked us to provide proof but people are afraid to speak out. Allowing only Sunni slaughterers and their other extremist actions are bound to create divisions within Islam in the UK."

Although based in Leicester, the HMC's influence is now beginning to spread across the UK. Two large abattoirs have turned their backs on the official Halal authority and now cut the throats of fully conscious animals and display the HMC's authorisation. They are Forest Farm Meats Ltd., of Milton Keynes and Cig Mon Cymru Ltd., of Anglesey, one of Wales's biggest slaughterers. Both claim their decision was a result of public demand. Many smaller slaughterers have also signed up.

The HMC is linked to the French AVS organisation, one of an endless string of unauthorised bodies claiming to be the only one offering genuine Halal authorisation. Again, hefty fees are involved and French Interior Ministry officials describe the free-for-all as "a racket". It is reported that these bodies threaten prospective clients that if they don't subscribe to a particular Halal certification, their customers will be told that their meat is 'Haram' - much the same is beginning to happen here.

The Leicester vet, who oversees the slaughter of food animals, claims that lack of stunning is inherently cruel and causes unnecessary suffering. But he has other objections: "It's mostly sheep, lambs and goats that I've witnessed being killed. Often they're not held down for the required 20 seconds after cutting and are dumped on the floor or conveyors and you can see them struggling to stand. There's no consistency and while some slaughterers are careful and use sharp knives, others are dreadful - barbaric - and just hack away with blunt knives."

Viva! has campaigned for years against religious ritual slaughter. Campaigner Tom Lane says: "The Government accepts that respect for other people's cultures should not extend to sacrificing our hard-fought for human rights. But animal rights, it seems, simply don't matter. Their cowardice over this issue is worrying because human and animal rights are intricately linked and by sacrificing one, you risk the other. Britain's animals should not become the victims in a battleground created by religious extremists."

Earlier this year, the Government rejected a demand by its own advisory body, the Farm Animal Welfare Council (FAWC), to outlaw the throat cutting of conscious animals for the Muslim and Jewish faiths. FAWC described it as "unacceptable" and recommended a ban. It said: "Such a massive injury would result in significant pain and distress."

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 11th January 2007 13:35
Assalamu alaikum,


Bismillah Kebab House is HMC approved, if any further details are required please do not hesitate to contact. Jazakallahu khair.


Wassalam

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 11th January 2007 17:31
the hmc website lists takeaway and restaurant outlets which they have stamped as approved. website address given in previous post.


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Bismillah Kebab House is HMC approved, if any further details are required please do not hesitate to contact. Jazakallahu khair.


contact who?

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 11th January 2007 18:36
sorry as Iong as its not on the HMC webssite its not approved. HMC update the site every 24 hours. am not saying the foods dodgey but just saying its not HMC'd however if the person can teII us where the meat is from we can make our own investigations and others can be more sure/comfortabIe.
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 12th January 2007 00:39
please try to be more polite. jazakumullah
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 12th January 2007 11:20
There was nothing impolite about that. daywalker said everything perfectly fine.
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