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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2018 09:52
Not sure if I should've posted this in the light side or food section! Let's see how the thread progresses :)

Halal Scottish salmon blessed for Muslim customers
By David Allison, Good Morning Scotland reporter
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-46426001


Hatim Ameen is sitting alongside Wester Ross Fisheries staff speeding out across the sea to the fish farm which lies in the shelter of Isle Martin in the middle of Loch Canaird.

His long beard is blowing in the icy wind, and there's a smile across his face.

He's flown up from Manchester for the day on an unusual mission.

A member of the Shia community, he travels to north west Scotland to bless each and every fish to make it halal just before it is slaughtered.

Once we arrive at the floating fish farm, Hatim wastes no time getting down to work.

The salmon are held in a large pen and below them a net is raised, guiding them towards a wide tube which pumps them up to a raised platform where they are being blessed.

At the platform where fish arrive in a stream of sea water Hatim is blessing each fish by touching it with his bare hands, saying a silent prayer and then passing the salmon on to be stunned and then killed.

He explains that the ritual of silently saying "In the name of the God" is enough to make each salmon halal and fit for consumption by followers of Islam.

Hatim reckons he touches and blesses 400 to 500 fish in a session, which on a Scottish sea loch in November means cold hands.

The boss of Wester Ross Fisheries, Gilpin Bradley, says the initial phone call from Hatim asking to come and bless salmon to make it halal was a bit of a surprise but is delighted the company went with it.

"We couldn't quite believe the phone call from Hatim, and we didn't fully appreciate what was involved in a blessing and that he wanted to bless every salmon, but to be honest our customers like the fact that we are accommodating for another particular requirement."

Fifty miles away on the other side of the country in Dingwall, the fish are processed.

The halal batch will go to Manchester, Leicester, London and Detroit.

Julie Ross, who is in charge of the processing, said: "It's exactly the same except Mr Ameen has been there and blessed each and every fish.

"At the end of the day you do exactly what the customer requests. The customer is number one."

Back on Loch Canaird the job is done.

More than 400 salmon have been blessed, stunned and dispatched.

Hatim is on the boat back to the shore, a car waiting to take him to Inverness airport and his return flight to Manchester.

And the hot water bottle - did it work?

"It worked a treat," he confirmed, his beard blowing in the wind and the smile still on his face.
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2018 09:53
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2018 11:05
"Fishes are stunned"
What is process involved in stunning.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2018 12:09
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Good question (although I'm not taking it to be as seriously as the topic)

What is the most humane way to kill a fish intended for eating?
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All fish that are caught for eating must be handled carefully to reduce stress and humanely killed as soon as possible after capture. Humane killing requires that the fish is stunned (rendered instantaneously insensible) before being bled out.

Fish should remain in water until immediately prior to stunning. There are two methods that can be used to stun fish caught by hand: percussive stunning and spiking (also known as pithing or iki-jime).

Percussive stunning involves a forceful and accurate blow to the head with a blunt instrument. The force required will depend on the size of the fish. The blow should be aimed just above the eyes to impact on the brain. The effectiveness of the stun should be checked and another blow applied if the fish is not unconscious.

Spiking involves driving a sharp spike (such as an ice pick or a sharpened screwdriver) into the brain of the fish. The spike should be placed in a position to penetrate the brain of the fish and then pushed quickly and firmly into the skull. The impact of the spike should produce immediate unconsciousness. The spike should then be moved from side to side to destroy the brain. Visit www.ikijime.com for a detailed description of this process.

After stunning or spiking, the fish should be bled out by cutting the gill rakers or, with larger fish, a main artery.

The following methods are not suitable for killing fish as they do not result in a rapid or humane death: chilling with ice in holding water, carbon dioxide in holding water; chilling with ice and carbon dioxide in holding water; salt or ammonia baths; asphyxiation by removal from water; bleeding out without stunning.

To be politically correct :)
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2018 12:44

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O that's easy...

Fishes are stunned in astonishment as to what the Shias are doing to them. :lol


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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2018 12:49
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Actually, I would say that the fish seeing it is being blessed is stunned.

Maybe the fish would have a heart attack seeing such things, would the fish then be Halal it if died of a heart attack?

Hmm, something smells fishy around those shores. I'll have to think twice before having a halal fish - I might have to stick to unstunned, unslaughtered, non human blessed fish :(
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2018 13:53
Anything supposedly blessed by a Shia means it's been blessed by Iblees.
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2018 15:27
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At this point even Iblees must be jealous of the depths they have fallen to. ;)
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2018 15:27
Is this blessing a fish actually a thing with the shias, or is he just taking them for a ride and lining his pockets?
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2018 16:32
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Probably both.
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2018 16:32
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Or very envious.

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2018 16:40
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I can't believe I had to check from their point of misguided views.

To confirm: This guy is having them on. In the Shia school, they do not need to be blessed, stunned or slaughtered. They simply need to be alive when fished out of the water.
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2018 16:41
Whilst the Sunni's have their Fiqh, the Shia have their....Fish :)
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2018 19:44

All I would say is that this whole thing sounds really "fishy"

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Question: Why do Shias need to bless their Fish? Give me the evidence?

Answer: Because all the fish are below "C-Level"

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2018 20:28
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The man is practicing Tuqia with the BBC and at the same time creating chaos with all halal haters.

I think the man needs to get "battered"
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