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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 7th August 2014 14:14

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Can you Please reproduce this as a new thread in the Salaf section. It would be great to have it as a dedicated post.

I remember in the debates section, one of the Salafi brothers used that against me since I quoted it, and brother Muadh did a great job putting him to regret (somewhat, unfortunately I can't find it though)

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2024 15:37

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There is a narration by Hadhrat Ali ??? ???? ??? where he says "When the Imam is hungry, feed him."
(to the nearest meaning)

Can I get reference for this Hadith.

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2024 15:45

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I heard it in a lecture by a scholar and Allah knows best.

If I come across it again, I'll share it inshaAllah.

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2024 15:50

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That hadith is best example to counter the claim of "Amal bil Hadith", act on literal meaning of hadith.

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2024 16:07

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I found this hadith from salafi forum "forum dot mohaddis dot com"

Google translation of the quoted narration is "If the imam asks you for food, feed him"

11452-GM site se imam luqma maange toe luqma dedoe

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2024 16:37

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The meaning is deduced by the scholars. And Allah Knows Best.

We have many people who take only the literal meanings of verses of the Quran or narrations.

There are those who understand the metaphorical aspects of it. We have those who understand the Sifat of Allah in metaphors then we have the extremes (generally ghair muqallids) who say that we cannot use metaphors and that the literal understanding must be taken.

Yet Allah uses metaphors in the Quran.

So it's best to leave it to the scholars of understanding

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2024 17:32

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Worst scenario is the meaning of a hadith is as understood by the gair muqallid. The same hadith is understood independently by each member of the family or visitor of a masjid. So the number of opinions can be the number of family members or visitors of masjid.

When we quote their own scholar, they scream, "We are not muqallid of the particular scholar", "we are free to take the meaning of the hadith/ayah by ourselves".

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 29th February 2024 10:21

Imam Ahmad and others narrated with a saheeh isnaad from �Uthmaan ibn Haneef that a blind man came to the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and said: Pray to Allah to heal me. The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: �If you wish, I shall pray for you; and if you wish, I shall delay that for you and that will be better for you.� [According to another report, he said: �� Or if you wish, you can be patient and that will be better for you.�] He said: Pray for me (now). So he instructed him to do wudoo� and do it well, then to pray two rak�ahs and say this du�aa� (supplication): �O Allah, I ask You and I turn to You by virtue of Your Prophet Muhammad, the Prophet of mercy. O Muhammad, I turn by virtue of you to my Lord concerning this need of mine, that it might be met for me. O Allah, accept his intercession concerning me and accept my intercession concerning him.� So the man did that and he was healed.

Taken from a Salafi website islamqa.info/en/answers/97600/the-hadith-about-the-blind-...

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Some people are confused by this hadith and think that it constitutes evidence for some innovated types of tawassul (seeking to draw close to Allah), but that is not the case.

So not all Hadith are taken literally, they are selective - :)

Next time I am told that they (ghair muqallideen) can take a literal meaning of a Hadith and act upon it, I'll remember this narration inshaAllah.

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 29th February 2024 10:47

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Only hadith.... Many are offering taraweeh for 3 nights only..... Cuts... everywhere.

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