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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 17:11

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Brother,

If you want to be respected then respect others.

Where have Ghair-Muqallids claimed this as a whole? OR is it that some of their adherents may have written something which has been interpreted in this manner?

  1. Did the Sahabah not say "Ameen loudly"?
  2. Did the Sahabah not perform "Rafa Yadain"?
  3. Did the Sahabah perform new Wudhu when they bled?
  4. Did the Sahabah not perform 3 Rakaat Wit'r with Salam in the middle?
  5. Did the Sahabah not combine Salah when travelling?

Don't you reject all of the above???

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 17:13
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This question will appear in those people's mind who have very little idea about Madhahib.

A'imma Mujtahideen were righteous people.

Al Mahdi will be righteous.[/quote]
[quote="abu mohammed"]For all we know, the latest Salafi group will have gone round through a full circle and more and eventually become Hanafi, Shafi', Maaliki or Hanbali and they wouldn't even know it. :)

It's the same old question, will Hadhrat Esa (as) be Hanafi? Obviuosly we don't need to get into all that, but people still ask it.
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 17:16

Assalamu alaykum

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 17:27

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You know very well that this is not what you claimed at all!
 

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 17:38
Assalamu alaykum
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 17:46

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Your words:

  1. Will Imam Mahdi AS reject the actions of sahabah, khulafa-e-rashideen, and claim that their actions are not hujjath for us.
  2. Will Imam Mahdi AS claim that Syeduna Umar RA didn't had the knowledge of basic masail of deen.
  3. Will Imam Mahdi AS claim that if the actions of sahabah are against saheeh hadeeth we reject them.

If NO, he is not from gair muqallid group and he is from Ahlussunnah wal jama'ah.

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 17:59
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Imam Mahdi will not reject the sunnah of second adhan of Juma'a. And quoting the names of khulafa-e-rashideen and ahle bayth in khutba of juma'a
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 18:05
Indeed Imam Mahdi will not be a salafi. He will be most probably hanafi as some hanafi awliya told from kashf and bring the sword to all sects including ahle hadith.
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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 18:07

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So in your opinion Shaf'aes, Malikees and Hanbalees are not from Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaah based on this principle of 2nd Adhan?

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Have you actually read Allamah Ibn Abideen (RA) has written in response to what you are quoting?

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 18:09
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I don't know about others, Shafaee brother follow the sunnah of second Azan. And no one claims that second azan of juma'a is a bida'a introduced by Syeduna Uthman RA.
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 18:11
We also know it from Mujaddid Alfi Thani.
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 18:31

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Jazakallahu Khayran for correcting me as you are right and I am wrong. Its Imam Shafa;e (RA) who wasn't of this opinion but Shaf'ae Madhab does follow it.

But the question still stands for everybody who isn't of this opinion are they outside of Ahlus-Sunnah?

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 18:42
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Quote:
1. Will Imam Mahdi AS reject the actions of sahabah, khulafa-e-rashideen, and claim that their actions are not hujjath for us.

2. Will Imam Mahdi AS claim that Syeduna Umar RA didn't had the knowledge of basic masail of deen.

3. Will Imam Mahdi AS claim that if the actions of sahabah are against saheeh hadeeth we reject them.

If NO, he is not from gair muqallid group and he is from Ahlussunnah wal jama'ah.


From the quote I can't find out any action which people of Shafi'i/Maliki/Hanbali Madhab do. No Madhab-

1. rejects the actions of sahabah, khulafa-e-rashideen, and claims that their actions are not hujjath for us.

2. claims that Syeduna Umar RA didn't had the knowledge of basic masail of deen.

3. claims that if the actions of sahabah are against saheeh hadeeth we reject them.
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 18:45
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Disagreeing is allowed. But calling a sunnah of khulafa-e-rashideen a bida'a takes a person away from ahlussunnah wal jama'a.

Let me quote from a lecture from a gair muqallid scholar.

He was quoting a hadeeth about "my ummah will never agree on dhalalah", he was saying, all others are firqas, they are not ummah. They are not even considering us (including the jama'ah of tabaieen) as ummah.
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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 18:53
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And those mischievous "scholars" are educated, funded, guided by so called "moderate Salafis".
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