What if the Mahdi will be Salafi

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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 12:48

So many questions and accusations left right and centre.

I don't wish to go off topic on another thread, so I will just quote what the guest has said.

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please keep isis or IS or Islamic state out of this. This is about the mahdi. the mahdi who will not be a practicing muslim but will be guided over night. the mahdi that will be rejected by everyone at first. the mahdi that is not the clown of qadyan. the mahdi that will come before Jesus's return and join him.

Question: As the title states.

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 13:56

I am sure people will check to see if the Mahdi will say Ameen audibly or if he folds his hands on his chest, etc and conclude from there if he should be refuted or accepted.

May Allah protect us from such fitnahs which come from the shallowness of our understanding. Ameen. (audibly)

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 14:36

Today there are so many variants of Salafi's. They make takfeer upon each other and break away, start a new school and so on. So by the time the Mahdi arrives, Allah will surely guide him on the correct manhaj :) and therefore, what ever name is given to it, be it Wahabi, Salafi, Ahle Hadith, Sunni, Maaliki, Shafi', and so on, inshaAllah, we will accept him for what he is and he will be our ameer.

For all we know, the latest Salafi group will have gone round through a full circle and more and eventually become Hanafi, Shafi', Maaliki or Hanbali and they wouldn't even know it. :)

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 15:05

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This is about the mahdi. the mahdi who will not be a practicing muslim but will be guided over night. the mahdi that will be rejected by everyone at first. the mahdi that is not the clown of qadyan. the mahdi that will come before Jesus's return and join him.

Brother, could you please cite Ahadith containing these characteristics of al Mahdi?

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 15:12

This question is quite strange, because Madhahib stemmed from firmly established evidences from the best people of the best generations, which means Madhahib are authentic Salafism. On the contrary today's Salafism revolves around a handful of scholars who are not from the best generations and inconsistencies are clearly visible.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 15:48

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I've heard this before.

There's a lecture on it by SoldierOfAllah2.

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Ali b. Abi Talib(RA) has related a tradition from the Prophet(SAW) who informed him:
The promised Mahdi will be among my family. God will make the provisions for his emergence within a single night.
(Ibn Majah, Sahih, Vol. 2, P. 519)[/quote]
[quote]Hadhrat Umme Salmah(RA) narrates that Rasulullah(SAW) said:

After the death of a Ruler there will be some dispute between the people. At that time a citizen of Madina will flee (from Madina) and go to Makkah. While in Makkah, certain people will approach him between Hajrul Aswad and Maqaame Ibraheem, and forcefully pledge their allegiance to him.

Thereafter a huge army will proceed from Syria to attack him but when they will be at Baida, which is between Makkah and Madina, they will be swallowed into the ground.

On seeing this, the Abdaals of Shaam as well as large numbers of people from Iraq will come to him and pledge their allegiance to him. Then a person from the Quraish, whose uncle will be from the Bani Kalb tribe will send an army to attack him, only to be overpowered, by the will of Allah. This (defeated) army will be that of the Bani Kalb. Unfortunate indeed is he who does not receive a share from the booty of the Kalb. This person (Imam Mahdi) will distribute the spoils of war after the battle. He will lead the people according to the Sunnat and during his reign Islam will spread throughout the world. He will remain till seven years (since his emergence). He will pass away and the Muslims will perform his Janazah salaat.
(Abu Dawood)

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 15:51

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 16:17

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It mentions 'emergence within one night'. Literally speaking, he won't be known by anyone but suddenly he will become well known. That has nothing to do with him being non-practicing and suddenly becoming practicing. Atleast thats what is clear from that English translation of the hadith.

People derive meanings of hadith to fit their own whims and cares.

As for the topic. We all know that Ahlus sunnah wal jamaah consists of the 4 Madaahib. And Al Mahdi will be from ahlusunnah wal jamaah. Khallaas. Why waste time discussing about stupid theories like
what if he is a salafi?
what if he is a barelvi?
What if he is a pakistani?
What if he is a convert?
What if.....

Isn't it obvious that Al Mahdi will be a sunni.

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 16:22

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Allahu Alum, that's Salafi for you taking it Literary. Maybe others can shed more light on it. (the speaker is Yassir Qadhi at 5mins 15sec)

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 16:30

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Ok if we take Yasir Qadhi's word that Al Mahdi becomes guided in a day bi idhinillah. Ok fine.
Many Awliya have been guided similarly. Umar Al Farooq رضي الله عنه was guided in a single day.

But still this topic irritates me. Such a futile discussion don't you think?
Just like the illuminati hunters out there. :/

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 16:30

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Brother, Alhamdulillaah I read those Ahadith before. I was just trying to figure out the parts which I didn't heard or read:

Asaaghir wrote:

the mahdi who will not be a practicing muslim but will be guided over night.[/quote]

Hadith wrote:

God will make the provisions for his emergence within a single night.

Does this sentence^ mean what that brother has written?

[quote=Asaaghir]the mahdi that will be rejected by everyone at first.

If he is rejected by everyone, who will recognize him?

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 16:32

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السلام عليكم

Bhai, I ve heard some scholars say that initially very few people give bayah to Al Mahdi. Thats not the issue here.

Don't you think we discussing if he will be salafi a bit too paranoid?

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 16:47

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This question will appear in those people's mind who have very little idea about Madhahib.

A'imma Mujtahideen were righteous people.

Al Mahdi will be righteous.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 16:49

Assalamu alaykum.

Wallahu A'alam

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2014 17:09

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Futile, probably. But people are making takfeer on these people, including those who are sincere. I don't think we need to be too extreme, otherwise whats the difference between us and others. Not all Salafi hold the same beliefs, in fact, some hold worse views and some seem to be in line with what we believe, they even follow Aqeedah Tahaweeyah.

I guess the OP is just a question carrying on from the other thread as is mentioned. Poor guy got a thumbs down for not breaking the rules, or was it because he quoted something we hadn't heard of? (The thumbs down weren't me by the way)

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