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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2011 18:56

This is something all the hanafis should think about...

If in the conditions of imam in the first cases there is equality, then the one whose wife is more beautiful ( Dur Mukhtar vol 1 p 412)

Then the one who has the biggest head and the shortest member( Dur Mukhtar vol 1 p 412)

The meaning of member is penis ( Rad Mukhtar Sharh Dar Mukhar, p 413)

What does how beautiful a persons wife is do with being Imam?
and [edit: question removed due to inappropriate content for public site]?

astagfirullaah?

do the muqallids follow this or do they end up picking and mixing?

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2011 18:57

why does Yasin keep removing my posts?

is he ashamed of his madhab?

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2011 18:58

please don't follow your desires and hide the truth from the people

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2011 19:00

these are not lies and accusations.

check the sources... these are from the main books the hanafis use for fiqh and fatwa

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2011 19:00

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2011 19:04

Your posts are removed as it is a repeat of what the other Salafi's have posted here and everywhere on the internet but never to the Ulamaa.

And I will paste my PM to you here as you have wished for it to be displayed.

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You are wasting your time.

Your lies and accusations that's been engendered in your mind by Salafi scholars in the most manipulating brainwashing techniques is only causing you to waste your time by posting lies as you understand it personally or as a group of minority Salafi outcasts.

It only takes 2 seconds to remove posts that causes Fitnah. I have removed your previous topic too. If you're not a friend of Iblees and genuinely want to question then use the Q&A section. Posting here to lay people is a clear indication to the Salafi's disastrous nature bent on corruption, Fitnah, arguments, lies, slander and disgraceful degrading of the Awliyaa.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2011 21:20

SubhanAllah. How degrading. If people want to make accusations, then why use classic textbook accusations which have no basis. It's amazing. I have seen such accusations come from ex hanafis too. When they find out they were misled, they don't know what to say and find another text book false accusation. The good thing is that the answers are there to silence those accusations. Same thing goes for the other thread.

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SubhanAllah, perfect title.

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 14th November 2011 08:43

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SubhanAllah. How degrading. If people want to make accusations, then why use classic textbook accusations which have no basis.

As you can see here, the sheikh tried to refute one of the accusations.

We learn a few things from his refutation:

1- It is part of the madhab (so all those who accuse us of lying need to repent for backbiting and slandering)
2- How do we determine whose wife is more beautiful?
3- That means it's disliked for a single man to lead salah
4- [edit: point removed due to inappropriate and unverified content]

Amazing how the muqallids would do anything to defend their corrupt beliefs.

Why don't you look in the sunnah of the prophet (saw)

and then choose you Imams according to the sunnah?... actually this would contradict your principles because you'll have to put the statements of the prophet (saw)

over the statements of your Imam.

"And of mankind are some who take (for worship) others besides All�h as rivals (to All�h). They love them as they love All�h." (2:165)

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 14th November 2011 09:37

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"And of mankind are some who take (for worship) others besides All�h as rivals (to All�h). They love them as they love All�h." (2:165)

Nafi' was asked: What does Ibn Umar رضي الله عنه think of al-Haruriyyah (i.e; al-Khawarij)? Nafi' answered: 'He thinks they are the most evil of people. They applied the verses which pertain to the kuffar on the believers.' (Saheeh Bukhari, vol.9, pg.50; English edition]

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 14th November 2011 12:09

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you've seen the poor attempt of a refutation on the Hanafi Fiqh channel for the wife being more beautiful... if they were ALL lies then your scholars wouldn't get so up tight about it.

alhamdulillaah everyone knows that many of the views of the Hanafi Madhab are completely corrupted and have no basis... that's why the scholars call the hanafees ahl ar-ra'i because they prefer interlect and Hawa over the authentic texts.

There are examples set out to show you how deep a person can take an issue, and if that happens it can be dealt with in certain ways. This does not mean that every Imam's wife must be checked out. You people are so amazing.

We make Taqleed of the Salaf, You make Taqleed of those with less understanding. (I could have used harsh words, but I dont want the psuedo salafi teaching me how to talk and make accusations BLINDLY for others to blindly follow)

You have been given the chance to make your accusations, or to clear any doubts. Please do so by replying to brother Muadh's request.

If we were to swoop low, we too could post tons of garbage that is out there on the Salafi. But we choose not to as this is degrading and an insult to fellow Muslims, past and present. What we present here is evidence that others can use to back themselves up.

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 14th November 2011 16:26

abu mohammed wrote:

This does not mean that every Imam's wife must be checked out. You people are so amazing.[/quote]

what does is mean then?

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We make Taqleed of the Salaf, You make Taqleed of those with less understanding
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MashaAllaah you have an understanding the prophet (saw)

and his companions never had... did the prophet (saw)

and his companions forget to tell us this? did they hide this understanding from us?

[quote="abu mohammed"]
If we were to swoop low, we too could post tons of garbage that is out there on the Salafi. But we choose not to as this is degrading and an insult to fellow Muslims, past and present. What we present here is evidence that others can use to back themselves up.

Almost all the stuff you post against salafis is garbage... a guy that doesn't understand Arabic needs to know his place... refutations and clearing things up is not your job, you don't have access to the original sources so you can only quote things that may have been translated correctly.

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 14th November 2011 16:31

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Why don't you look in the Sunnah of the Prophet (saw)

and then choose you Imams according to the sunnah?... actually this would contradict your principles because you'll have to put the statements of the Prophet (saw)

over the statements of your Imam.

* When I use the term "YOU" it is not only for Khalid bin waleed, but as a general term for ghair muqallids.

The Hanafi Fiqh is based on the Quran and Hadith and they are all backed with evidence, you can confirm with the scholars.

There are many issues that are not mentioned in Quran and Hadith that people may ask, the Ulama, using Quran and Hadith have put together many many rules that go beyond your intellect, so you guys pull out what is not clear cut in the 2 sources and then accuse us of following those rules and not that of Prophet SAW. SubhanAllah, you people are not intelligent enough to look into other possible scenarios and assume that that is our only way.

You dont understand many laws of Islam and apply Quran as a rule, then you touch the Quran without Wudhu because you decide the verse of the Quran is for angels. You reject Hadith blatantly.

You people want to touch the Quran in an impure state then accuse us of not following the Prophet SAW. Get your facts right.

The Hanafi give preference to the Quran first to derive rules, then the Hadith. It is you guys who use logic as can be seen above, however, at the same time, your not intelligent enough to that properly either.

You use the term "Quran and Sunnah" and you think youve won the argument. SubhanAllah, it is the Quran and Sunnah that prove many of your actions to be weak in the first place. And when that is brought to your attention, you sheepishly say, "Why can't differences be a mercy".

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 14th November 2011 16:36

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The Hanafis give preference to the Quran first to derive rules, then the Hadith.

Similarly, if a hadith is in greater conformance with the text of the Qur'an, then this is one of the most noteworthy preferential factors that render a particular hadith superior to those that contradict it, according to the Hanafi school.

For example, the Hanafis award preference to the narration that does not mention raising of the hands in salat over the narration which does mention it. This is so simply because the Holy Qur'an declares, "And stand before Allah with ease and tranquillity." (Surat al-Baqara 2:238). Hence, from among the conflicting narrations, the Hanafis award preference to those hadiths which conform more closely to this form of tranquillity.

This ruling is also established from other previous occurrences. In the early days of Islam, it was permissible to speak (and to make sal�m) in salat, but this was gradually abrogated and the salat metamorphosed into a more tranquil action. Hence, the narrations which conform more to tranquillity are more juridically preferable in the Hanafi school. In addition, the narrations which do not mention any recitation while performing salat behind the Imam are awarded preference over those narrations which mention this practice. This is so because of the Qur'anic verse, "And when the Qur'an is being recited, listen to it attentively and remain silent." (Surat a1-Araf 7:204).

Similarly, it is better to delay the Fajr and 'Asr prayers because it is in greater conformance with the Qur'anic verse, "And glorify the praises of your Lord before sunrise and before sunset." (Sura Qaf 50:39). "Before sunrise" and "before sunset" means a time which is close to them. A period of three to four hours before sunrise or sunset is not normally referred to as being "before" sunrise or "before" sunset. Hence, the Hanafis are of the opinion that it is better to delay the Fajr and 'Asr prayers. Furthermore, the Hanafis have chosen the qunut (a supplication made in the witr salat) of 'Allahumma inna nastainuka..." in the witr salat because they were considered as two s�rats of the Holy Qur'an. There are thousand of examples of this nature, but out of fear of long-windedness, we will leave them out.

http://muftisays.org/blog/Seifeddine-M/548_08-11-2010/the-approach-of-the-hanafi-school.html

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 14th November 2011 17:04

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 14th November 2011 17:12

Seifeddine-M wrote:

Similarly, it is better to delay the Fajr and 'Asr prayers because it is in greater conformance with the Qur'anic verse, "And glorify the praises of your Lord before sunrise and before sunset." (Sura Qaf 50:39). "Before sunrise" and "before sunset" means a time which is close to them. A period of three to four hours before sunrise or sunset is not normally referred to as being "before" sunrise or "before" sunset. Hence, the Hanafis are of the opinion that it is better to delay the Fajr and 'Asr prayers.

This obviously is the problem when you prefer interlect over the sunnah of the prophet (saw)

many ahadeeth tell us that salah should be at it's begining time. The hadeeth of jibreel is also as clear as crystal.

Even tho the hanfees have many refutations of the quraaniyyoon is seems as if they are traversing on the same path as them. The prophet (saw)

was sent by Allaah to convey the message and he explained that which is in the quran. So to explain the Quran with the sunnah takes precedence over implementing what you find in the quran according to your interlect.

Also in the ayah you mentioned, Allaah says qabla and not qubayl.

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