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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2011 01:02

My point was,

Yasin wrote:

So in the first place you directly accuse him of lying and deceiving.

Then you say that it's others who ACCUSE him and you take the 'others' word as Haq and apply to him before saying from who. [/quote]

You didn't agree?

My other point was,

Yasin wrote:

You also apply this same 'accusation' to him with emphasis on when he defends a scholar. So defending scholars is also a sin in your books now.

You didn't disagree

All you posted was a repeat of your other post in different words. So again, why are you creating so much Fitnah brother?

And I must highlight the following as it's amazingly against everything you are arguing about. In one sentence you have pretty much summarised the Salafi mentality and your needs to argue:
[quote="Abu Ahmad"]He claims he's a laymen and has to do taqleed, then he decides to speak up and refute, a muqallid can't refute because his job is to be quiet and follow.

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2011 10:00

Brother Abu Ahmad,

Can you answer 1 question with nothing but a yes or a no please?

Q) Is Allah closer to you than your Jugular Vein?

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2011 10:17

It has been collected by Abdullaah bin Ahmad, Al-Aajoori, Al-Lalakaaee and others with an authentic unbroken chain the Ibn Al-Mubarak said, "I asked Sufayan Ath-Thawri about the statement of Allaah, "He is with you wherever you may be" and he (Sufyan) said, "his knowledge""

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2011 10:19

They are deaf, dumb, and blind, so they return not (to the Right Path). (Surah Al-Baqarah: 18)

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2011 10:22

And they will say: "Our Lord! Verily, we obeyed our chiefs and our great ones, and they misled us from the (Right) Way. Our Lord! give them double torment and curse them with a mighty curse!" (Surah Al-Ahzaab: 67,68)

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2011 10:36

I said reply with one word not 3 posts.

Jazakallah. The point i'm making is that people can easily take things out of context, thats why you have not answered the way I asked. This is what many people are doing, taking out of context and then making false accusations.

(InshaAllah I will post a very beautiful quote when I get back)

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2011 10:47

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Subhanallaah!!!!!!!

I think you're taking it out of context, listen carefully to the video and then go onto youtube and listen to his other videos on the same topic, the man is a follower of the jahmiyyah.

Where is Allaah is only one of the problems Mufti Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera has in 'Aqeedah, you should listen to how he mocks Allaah and continuously lies about Allaah. He's taken the manhaj as the 'khlaf' as he clearly mentions, alhamdulillaah we prefer the manhaj of the salaf over the khalaf.

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2011 15:13

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It's very funny that You, Abu Mohammed and Muadh Khan always defend each other, even if the person doesn't deserve to be defended in a particular case, I think you deserve to be called

THE THREE MUSKETEERS

Jazakallah. You are very generous. Earlier you slander Mufti Abdur Rahman and others. How can we thank you for your rewards. Don't go looking for your rewards when you are told you gave them away, because we won't be returning them. InshaAllah.

I did this for Children so they can learn a thing or two. But I guess you need to be reminded too.

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Allah is all forgiving. Will we forgive? well, why should we allow something that is haram and then forgive.

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2011 15:48

"abu mohammed" wrote:

I said reply with one word not 3 posts. Jazakallah. The point i'm making is that people can easily take things out of context, thats why you have not answered the way I asked. This is what many people are doing, taking out of context and then making false accusations. (InshaAllah I will post a very beautiful quote when I get back)[/quote]

Here's my promise

[quote]One's inability to understand something is no argument for it being false.

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 20th October 2011 17:20

Asslamo Allaikum,

Note to the Mods:

Aqeedah of the Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaah is to confirm the Istawa of Allah (SWT) as per the verse of the Qur'aan

[7:54] Surely, your Lord is Allah who created the heavens and the earth in six days, then He (SWT) then Istawaa on the Throne. He covers the day with the night that pursues it swiftly. (He created) the sun and the moon and the stars, subjugated to His command. Lo! To Him alone belong the creation and the command. Glorious is Allah, the Lord of all the worlds.

To discuss the matter further, discuss/debate is Bid'ah as declared by Imam Malik (RA).

We follow the Salaf!

Salafees have an infatuation to discuss this matter indirect contrast to the practise and Fatwa of the Salaf.

I suggest that this thread should be LOCKED. And any further attempts of Salafee infatuation should result in a PERMANENT BAN!

We shouldn’t discuss anything which the Salaf considered to be a Bid’ah.

The sound versions of Imam Malik's famous response to the man who asked about istiwa' are as follows:

"The `how' of it is inconceivable; the `establishment' part of it is not unknown; belief in it is obligatory; asking about it is an innovation; and I believe that you are a man of innovation." Narrated from Ja`far ibn `Abd Allah by al-Dhahabi, Siyar (7:415).
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The Merciful established Himself over the Throne
just as He described Himself. One cannot ask `how.' `How' does not apply to Him.
And you are an evil man, a man of innovation. Take him out!" Narrated from Ibn Wahb by al-Bayhaqi with a sound chain in al-Asma' wa al-Sifat (2:304-305 #866), al-Dhahabi in the Siyar (7:416), and Ibn Hajar in Fath al-Bari (1959 ed. 13:406-407; 1989 ed. 13:501).

Jazakullah Khairun

P.S: Let the Salafees chase their tails and we should follow the Salaf!

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