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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 17th August 2011 13:01

Salaam, I came across this info and wanted to share it here. Please note it is not my own work. Jazakallah.

 

The wives of the Prophet (saw) spend the night with the Prophet (saw) in his grave

In his “Malfuzat” v 3 p 276, Ahmad Raza Khan wrote about the life of the Prophet (saw) in his grave:

Question: What is the difference in the Barzakhi life of Prophets (may Salah be upon them) and Awliya

The life of the noble Prophets (may Salah and Salam be upon them) is real and physical similar to the life of this world (Haqiqi Hisi Dunyawi), and death touched them for a little moment just to fulfil the divine promise, then just after they are given the same life. This life has the same ruling as the life of this world, their inheritance is not distributed, the Nikah of their wives is forbidden and they do not have any 'Iddah period, they (Prophets) eat and drink and pray in their graves, rather Saydi Muhammad ibn Abdul Baqi Az-Zarqani said that for the Prophets (may Salah and Salam be upon them), their pure wives are presented to them in their graves, and they spend the night with them.

Comment: Spending the night is a clear allusion towards having relations, else it would say they spend the day. This is the shameful Sufism of the Brawliyah. They have no text to prove such claims, rather their religion is based on fairy tales, by which they want to corrupt the Muslim creed.

The Wali watches sexual relation of his students

In his “Malfuzat” v 2 p 169, Ahmad raza Khan wrote:

Sayidi Ahmad Sijilmasi had two wives, Sayidi Abdul 'Aziz Ad-Dabbagh (rad) said to him one day: “You slept with one wive while the other was awake, this should not be done”.

He argued: “She was sleeping”

He (Dabbagh) replied: “No she was not...”

He asked: “How do you know this?”

He (Dabbagh) said: “Where she was sleeping, was there another bed?”

He said: “Yes, there was an empty bed”

He (Dabbagh) said: “I was on this bed, at no time is the Shaykh separated from his Murid, he is always with him

Comment: So for Bralwis, their Peers watch their intercourse with their wives and are always with them. What is this shameful creed!!! These people should then come naked in front of their Peers as for them the Shaykh is in their bedrooms and watches their intercourses. La Hawla wala Quwatta ila Billah!!!

Does the religion of Islam allows a Muslim to be present in the room of a person sleeping with his wife? This is a clear opposition to the Shari'ah!!!

The Awliya watch all the universe and know everything

In his “Malfuzat” v 4 p 402, Ahmad Raza Khan wrote:

The noble Awliya say: “The seven heavens and earth compared to the vision of believer slave are not but like a ring thrown in a desert land.” Sayidi Ash-Shareef Abdul 'Aziz Ad-Dabbagh (rad) said that the seven heavens and earth compared to the largeness of the vision (Wus'at e Nigah) of the perfect believer are not but like a ring thrown in a desert land. Allah Akbar, when this is the status of the slaves, then how can someone think about the greatness of Allah.”

In his “Malfuzat” v 1 p 31, Ahmad Raza Khan wrote that Awliya know Ghayb and everything:

A saint said: “he is not a man the one who does not see the whole world similarly to seeing a hand”, and he told the truth and showed his level. Shaykh Baha ul Millah and Deen Naqshband (may Allah sanctify his secret) said after him: “I say: he is not a man the one who does not see the whole universe similarly to seeing a nail of the thumb”...Sayd Ghawth A'zam (rad) said in his Qasidah Ghawthiyah Sharif: “I saw all the lands of Allah like a grain continuously” and this seeing was not particular to any time, rather this was continuous, and he said: “My eyes are fixed on the Lawh Al-Mahfuz” and what is Lawh Al-Mahfuz? Allah said about it: “Everything small or big is written (in it)” and He said: “We have not left anything in the book” and He said: “There is not anything wet or dried except it is recorded in Kitab Mubeen”, so when this is the state of Lawh Al-Mahfuz, that everything of the creation is recorded in it since the first day to the last, so the one who knows it, then without any doubt he will have knowledge of all the creation”

Comment: Read these Ayats:

Allah said: “Or like the one who passed by a town and it had tumbled over its roofs. He said: "Oh! How will Allah ever bring it to life after its death?" So Allah caused him to die for a hundred years, then raised him up (again). He said: "How long did you remain (dead)?" He (the man) said: "(Perhaps) I remained (dead) a day or part of a day". He said: "Nay, you have remained (dead) for a hundred years, look at your food and your drink, they show no change; and look at your donkey! And thus We have made of you a sign for the people. Look at the bones, how We bring them together and clothe them with flesh". When this was clearly shown to him, he said, "I know (now) that Allah is Able to do all things." (Baqarah : 259)

Majority of scholars of Tafsir say this man was the Prophet Ozayr, and even if he is a Wali, then he did not know how many years he slept, so how can someone say Awliya know Lawh Al-Mahfuz and everything?

It is written in Surah “Kahf”:

Musa (Moses) said to him (Khidr) "May I follow you so that you teach me something of that knowledge (guidance and true path) which you have been taught (by Allah)?" He (Khidr) said: "Verily! You will not be able to have patience with me! "And how can you have patience about a thing which you know not?" Musa (Moses) said: "If Allah will, you will find me patient, and I will not disobey you in aught." He (Khidr) said: "Then, if you follow me, ask me not about anything till I myself mention it to you." So they both proceeded, till, when they embarked the ship, he (Khidr) scuttled it. Musa (Moses) said: "Have you scuttled it in order to drown its people? Verily, you have committed a thing "Imra" (a Munkar - evil, bad, dreadful thing)." He (Khidr) said: "Did I not tell you, that you would not be able to have patience with me?" Musa (Moses)] said: "Call me not to account for what I forgot, and be not hard upon me for my affair (with you)...”

So the great Prophet of Allah Musa (aley salam) did not have knowledge of the actions of Al-Khidr, and Ahmad raza Khan claims Al-Gilani and others know everything. Allahul Musta'an

Allah said: “He (Sulayman) inspected the birds, and said: "What is the matter that I see not the hoopoe? Or is he among the absentees? "I will surely punish him with a severe torment, or slaughter him, unless he brings me a clear reason." But the hoopoe stayed not long, he (came up and) said: "I have grasped (the knowledge of a thing) which you have not grasped and I have come to you from Saba' (Sheba) with true news. "I found a woman ruling over them, and she has been given all things that could be possessed by any ruler of the earth, and she has a great throne. "I found her and her people worshipping the sun instead of Allah, and Shaytan (Satan) has made their deeds fair-seeming to them, and has barred them from (Allah's) Way, so they have no guidance,"… (Sulayman) said: "We shall see whether you speak the truth or you are (one) of the liars.” (Naml : 20-27)

Prophet Sulayman did not know why Hud Hud was absent and he said he will check his information. And Hud Hud said he brought news Sulayman was not aware of. And here is it told the Awliya watch the whole universe like a ring thrown in the desert...May Allah protect us from such lies upon the religion of Allah!!!

It is mentioned in Surah “Maryam”:

She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent to her Our Ruh [angel Jibrael (Gabriel)], and he appeared before her in the form of a man in all respects. She said: "Verily! I seek refuge with the Most Beneficent (Allâh) from you, if you do fear Allâh." (The angel) said: "I am only a Messenger from your Lord, (to announce) to you the gift of a righteous son." (17-19)

So Maryam (peace be upon her) did not know that the man who came was an Angel of Allah and she sought refuge from Allah from him. So this great Wali woman did not know that the man who came was an Angel and Ahmad Raza Khan tells us Awliya know everything.

In surah “Kahf”, the Awliya who slept 309 years said after waking up

Likewise, We awakened them (from their long deep sleep) that they might question one another. A speaker from among them said: "How long have you stayed (here)?" They said: "We have stayed (perhaps) a day or part of a day." They said: "Your Lord (Alone) knows best how long you have stayed (here). So send one of you with this silver coin of yours to the town, and let him find out which is the good lawful food, and bring some of that to you. And let him be careful and let no man know of you.” (19)

These great Awliya mentioned in the Quran did not know how much time they slept, and Ahmad Raza Khan's religion tells us Al-Gilani knows everything. La Hawla wala Quwatta ila Billah

The Ghawth according to Ahmad Raza Khan

In his “Malfuzat” v 1 p 115, Ahmad Raza Khan writes about the fairy tales of Ghawth:

Question: is there a Ghawth in every time?

Answer: Without the Ghawth, the earth and heavens cannot remain stable.

Question: Are matters disclosed (Munkashaf) to the Ghawth in his Muraqabah (meditation)?

Answer: No, rather at every time these matters are presented to him like in a mirror...every Ghawth has two ministers, the nickname of the Ghawth is Abdullah and the left hand is called AbdurRab and the right hand is called AbdulMalik. In this system of reign, the left hand minister is superior to the right hand minister contrary to the system of reign in this world, because this system of reign is that of the heart and it is on the left. The greatest Ghawth and the Ghawth of every Ghawth is Hudhur Saydul 'Alim (saw), Siddiq Akbar (Abu Bakr) was the left hand minister of the Prophet (saw) and Farooq A'zam (Omar) was the right hand. Then in this community, the first to attain state of Ghawth is Ameer ul Muminin Hadhrat Abu Bakr Siddiq (rad) and his ministers were Ameerul Muminin Faruq A'zam and Uthman Ghani (rad). Then Hadhrat Omar Faruq A'zam (rad) was given level of Ghawth and then Uthman Ghani (rad) and his minsters were Mawla 'Ali (kw) and Imam Hasan, then Mawla Ali (became Ghawth) and and the two noble Imams (Hasan and Husayn) became his ministers. Then the matter went from Imam Hasan (rad) generation after generation up to Imam Hasan Askari. All these were Ghawth on their own (Mustaqil). Between Imam Hasan Askari up to Hudhur Ghawth A'zam (Al-Jilani) (rad), all those who were Ghawth were their Naib. After them Sayduna Ghawth A'zam became a Ghawth on his own (Mustaqil), he reached the level of Ghawth Akbar...all those who are Ghawth after Ghawth A'zam up to Imam Mahdi are all Naib of Hudhur Ghawth A'zam, then Imam Mahdi will have state of Ghawthiyat Kubra.

Comment: One can see similarity between this invented system of Ghawth and Shi'ah Imamah, and how they attribute this status to descendant of Husayn. Also when Omar (rad) died, there were Sahabah alive greater than Hasan ibn Ali like Sa'd ibn Abi Waqqas, AbdurRahman ibn Awf and others, so he should have been among two ministers of 'Uthman, and also after death of Ali there were Sahabah greater than sons of Husayn like Ibn Umar, ibn Abbas and ibn Zubayr, but this is influence of Shiism on Sufism.

A Wali can be in 10 000 places at the same time, and even a Kafir

In his “Malfuzat” v 1 p 113-114, Ahmad Raza Khan wrote:

Question: Do the Awliya have the power to be in many places in one time?

Answer: if they desire they can go in 10 000 cities and accept 10 000 invitations.

Question: Hudhur, one imagines from this that some bodies from the world of forms ('Alim e Mithal) are submitted to the Awliya, and that is how one can see them in different places at the same time. If it is not such, then one has doubt that the form is different from the person, so the presence of the form is not the presence of the thing.

Answer: If they are forms, then their souls is linked to all these bodies and controls them, so by the soul and reality, it is the same essence that is present everywhere, and this is in apparent understanding, else it is written “Sab'ah Sanabil Sharif” that Hadhrat Saydi Fath Muhammad (may Allah sanctify his secret) wrote that he would go to ten places at the same time, and someone protested that he promised to go to ten places at the same time, how was this possible? The Shaykh said: “Krishan Kanayah was a Kafir, and he was present in hundreds of places at the same time, so if Fath Muhammad is present in few places at the same time, then how is that strange? After mentioning this, he said: “Do you believe that the Shaykh is present at one place and the rest are his forms, no rather the Shaykh is present everywhere by his essence. The Batini secrets are above apparent understanding, so deep thinking is not worth.”

 

Comment: So for Ahmad Raza Khan, Allah can give Karamat to a Kafir like Krishan Kanayah, as he did not refute such quotes of “Sab'ah Sanabil”. What a mockery of the religion of Islam!!! Allah hates kufr and Kufar, how can he honour them? And has anybody seen any Sahabi being in different places at same time?

Compiled by Ali Hassan Khan

May Allah send Salah and Salam on the Prophet (saw), his family, comapnions and those who follow them

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 17th August 2011 13:04

 

Below are some extracts of the English translation of “Tafsir Al-Jalalayn”, translated by the Darqawi Shazili Sufi Aisha Bewley. This Tafsir is among most famous and studied in many Madaris in the Muslim world. It was composed by Hafiz Jalaluddin Suyuti and his teacher Jalaluddin Al-Mahalli. Hafiz Suyuti is also a Sufi and a great scholar of Hadith. Al-Mahalli's Tafsir is from Surah Kahf to the end and also Surah Fatihah. Hafiz As-Suyuti's tafsir is from Surah Fatihah up to Surah Kahf.

 

In the english translation, the words in Bold are the translation of the Quran, and others in non-bold are words of Tafsir of As-Suyuti or his teacher

 

The Prophet (saw) was not seeing events of Zakariyya and Maryam

 

P 128, Surah Al ‘Imran, Ayah 44

 

ذَلِكَ مِنْ أَنْبَاءِ الْغَيْبِ نُوحِيهِ إِلَيْكَ وَمَا كُنْتَ لَدَيْهِمْ إِذْ يُلْقُونَ أَقْلَامَهُمْ أَيُّهُمْ يَكْفُلُ مَرْيَمَ وَمَا كُنْتَ لَدَيْهِمْ إِذْ يَخْتَصِمُونَ

 

Hafiz As-Suyuti wrote in explanation:

 

“This(what We have mentioned about Zakariyya and Maryam)is news from the Unseen, of things which you did not see.Muhammad,which We reveal to you. You were not with them when they cast their reeds into the water to draw lotsto see which of them should be the guardian of Maryam and have custodyof her.You were not with them when they quarrelled about it. This news isRevelation.”

 

Comment: Here, Hafiz As-Suyuti clearly said that the Prophet (saw) did not see the events of Zakariyya and Maryam and Allah only informed him (saw) of this through revelation (Wahy), while the Bralwis say that the Prophet (saw) is a witness of all actions of past and futures people, and he was Hadhir and Nadhir, seeing all the past events.

 

Knowledge of Ghayb is invisible to the Prophet (saw)

 

P 370, Surah Al-A’raf, Ayat 187-188:

 

يَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ السَّاعَةِ أَيَّانَ مُرْسَاهَا قُلْ إِنَّمَا عِلْمُهَا عِنْدَ رَبِّي لَا يُجَلِّيهَا لِوَقْتِهَا إِلَّا هُوَ ثَقُلَتْ فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ لَا تَأْتِيكُمْ إِلَّا بَغْتَةً يَسْأَلُونَكَ كَأَنَّكَ حَفِيٌّ عَنْهَا قُلْ إِنَّمَا عِلْمُهَا عِنْدَ اللَّهِ وَلَكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ

 

قُلْ لَا أَمْلِكُ لِنَفْسِي نَفْعًا وَلَا ضَرًّا إِلَّا مَا شَاءَ اللَّهُ وَلَوْ كُنْتُ أَعْلَمُ الْغَيْبَ لَاسْتَكْثَرْتُ مِنَ الْخَيْرِ وَمَا مَسَّنِيَ السُّوءُ إِنْ أَنَا إِلَّا نَذِيرٌ وَبَشِيرٌ لِقَوْمٍ يُؤْمِنُونَ

 

Hafiz As-Suyuti wrote in explanation:

 

“They(the people of Makka) will ask you about the Hour(the Day of Resurrection): when is it due? Sayto them: 'Knowledgeof itand when it will occur rests with my Lord alone. He alone willreveal it at its proper time. It hangs heavyfor many people in theheavens and the earthbecause of the terror it inspires. It will notcome upon you except suddenly.' They will ask youinsistentlyasif you had full knowledgeof it. Say: 'Knowledgeof it rests with Allahalone, but most people do not know that.'

 

Say: 'I possess no power tobring help oravert harmfrom myself, except as Allah wills. If I had had knowledgeof theUnseen,which is invisible to me, I would have sought to gainmuch good, and no evilsuch as poverty and other things would have touched me and I would have been careful to avoid harmful things.I am only a warner about the Fire for the unbelievers and a bringer of good news of the Garden to people who believe.’”

 

Comment: Here, Hafiz As-Suyuti clearly wrote that the knowledge of Ghayb is invisible to the Prophet (saw) and if the Prophet (saw) possessed this knowledge, he would have been careful to avoid harmful things. And we wee that the Prophet (saw) faced difficulties, was touched by magic, some of his companions were killed by tribes who claimed to be Muslims then killed the companions sent to them, and in the battle of Uhud many Muslims became martyred. 

 

The Prophet (saw) was censured by Allah for accepting excuses of some people

 

P 410, Surah At-Tawba, Ayah 43

 

عَفَا اللَّهُ عَنْكَ لِمَ أَذِنْتَ لَهُمْ حَتَّى يَتَبَيَّنَ لَكَ الَّذِينَ صَدَقُوا وَتَعْلَمَ الْكَاذِبِينَ

 

Hafiz As-Suyuti wrote in explanation:

 

“43. TheProphet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, gavepermission to a group to stay behind on his own initiative and thefollowing was revealed to censure him. The pardon came before thecensure, to calm his heart.Allah pardon you! Why did you excuse them for staying behind, rather than just leaving them until it was clear to you which ofthem were telling the truth in their excuseand until you knew the liars in that respect?”

 

Comment: So here, Hafiz As-Suyuti said that the Prophet (saw) relying on his own Ijtihad accepted excuses of some people, and Allah send this Ayah to censure the Prophet (saw).

 

The Prophet (saw) was not witness to the events of Musa (aley salam)

 

P 840, Surah Al-Qasas Ayat 44-46:

 

وَمَا كُنْتَ بِجَانِبِ الْغَرْبِيِّ إِذْ قَضَيْنَا إِلَى مُوسَى الْأَمْرَ وَمَا كُنْتَ مِنَ الشَّاهِدِينَ

 

وَلَكِنَّا أَنْشَأْنَا قُرُونًا فَتَطَاوَلَ عَلَيْهِمُ الْعُمُرُ وَمَا كُنْتَ ثَاوِيًا فِي أَهْلِ مَدْيَنَ تَتْلُو عَلَيْهِمْ آيَاتِنَا وَلَكِنَّا كُنَّا مُرْسِلِينَ

وَمَا كُنْتَ بِجَانِبِ الطُّورِ إِذْ نَادَيْنَا وَلَكِنْ رَحْمَةً مِنْ رَبِّكَ لِتُنْذِرَ قَوْمًا مَا أَتَاهُمْ مِنْ نَذِيرٍ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَذَكَّرُونَ
 

“You, Muhammad,were not on the western side of the mountainor the valleywhen We gave Musa the command: the Message toPharaoh and his people.You were not a witness so that you couldknow it.

 

Yet We produced further generations after Musa,and ages passed — so they forgot their contract with Allah, many knowledgesdisappeared, and Revelation ceased. Therefore We brought you as aMessenger and revealed to You the news of Musa and others.Nor did you live among the people of Madyan and recite Our Signs to them, enabling you to learn their story and report it,yet We have sent you news of them. We sent the Message to you with news ofthose who went before.

 

Nor were you on the side of the Mount when We called Musa totake hold of the Book with vigour;yet it is a mercy from your Lord that He sent youso that you may warn a people (the people ofMakka) to whom no warner came before, so that perhaps they will pay heed.”

 

Comment: Here, the Quran clearly tells that the Prophet (saw) was not a witness to the story of Musa when Allah spoke to Musa on Mount Tur. And Al-Mahalli said that the Prophet (saw) was not a witness to this event so that he could know it. It is important to see that the Arabic word used here is “Shahid” (witness), so not only knowledge of these events is denied but also being present there and being a witness. And Bralwis use the word “Shahid” in other Ayat to try tojustify their creed, and here it totally oppose their creed.

 

Before Wahy, the Prophet (saw) was not aware of the laws and practices of Islam

 

P 1045, Surah Ash-Shura, Ayah 52

 

وَكَذَلِكَ أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ رُوحًا مِنْ أَمْرِنَا مَا كُنْتَ تَدْرِي مَا الْكِتَابُ وَلَا الْإِيمَانُ وَلَكِنْ جَعَلْنَاهُ نُورًا نَهْدِي بِهِ مَنْ نَشَاءُ مِنْ عِبَادِنَا وَإِنَّكَ لَتَهْدِي إِلَى صِرَاطٍ مُسْتَقِيمٍ

 

“Accordingly We have revealed to you, Muhammad, a Ruh —meaning the Qur'an, which gives life to the hearts, as We revealed to other Messengers — by Our command. Before the revelation came you had no idea of what the Book(the Qur'an) was, or faith—meaning the laws and practices of Islam. Yet We have made it (the Ruh or the Book) a Light bywhich We guide those of Our slaves We will. Truly you are guiding — by the revelation given to you — to a Straight Paththe din of Islam”

 

Comment: Here, Hafiz Al-Mahalli clearly denied that the Prophet (saw) knew the laws of Islam before Wahy, while the Bralwis say that the Prophet (saw) since his creation knew all the future and everything that is to happen, and all sciences, whether religious or scientific. And Hafiz As-Suyuti did not see any objections and approved this explanation.

 

At the beginning, the Prophet (saw) did not know his end in this world

 

P 1079, Surah Ahqaf, Ayah 9

 

قُلْ مَا كُنْتُ بِدْعًا مِنَ الرُّسُلِ وَمَا أَدْرِي مَا يُفْعَلُ بِي وَلَا بِكُمْ إِنْ أَتَّبِعُ إِلَّا مَا يُوحَى إِلَيَّ وَمَا أَنَا إِلَّا نَذِيرٌ مُبِينٌ
 

“Say:'I am nothing new — no innovation —among the Messen­gers — not the first Messenger. There were many before me, so how can you deny me? I have no idea what will be done with me or you in this world: whether I will be expelled from my land or killed as happened to Prophets before me, or whether you will throw stones at me or whether the earth will swallow you up as happened with oth­ers before you. I only follow what has been revealed to me inother words, the Qur'an, and I do not innovate anything from myself. I am only a clear warner.'”

 

Comment: these are clear words in "Tafsir Jalalayn" saying that the Prophet (saw) in first place did not know his end in this world and Hafiz As-Suyuti clearly approved this explanation of his teacher.

 

The Prophet (saw) did not have knowledge of time of resurrection

 

P 1293, Surah al-Nazi’at, Ayat 42-44

 

يَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ السَّاعَةِ أَيَّانَ مُرْسَاهَا

 

فِيمَ أَنْتَ مِنْ ذِكْرَاهَا

 

إِلَى رَبِّكَ مُنْتَهَاهَا
 

« They (the unbelievers of Makka) ask you about the Last Hour: ‘When will it arrive?’ What are you doing mentioning itanything about it? "You have insufficient knowledge even to mention it." Its coming is your Lord's affair. The knowledge of its time is with Allah, and only He knows it.”

 

Comment: Here it is clearly told that the Prophet (saw) does not know when the time of resurrection will come.

 

The Prophet (saw) was not aware of the story of Yusuf (aley salam) before Wahy

 

P 518, Surah Yusuf, Ayah 102,

 

ذَلِكَ مِنْ أَنْبَاءِ الْغَيْبِ نُوحِيهِ إِلَيْكَ وَمَا كُنْتَ لَدَيْهِمْ إِذْ أَجْمَعُوا أَمْرَهُمْ وَهُمْ يَمْكُرُونَ

 

Hafiz Suyuti wrote:

 

102. This — what has been narrated about Yusuf —is news of the Unseen that was unknown to you, Muhammad, before —which Wereveal to you. You were not with them (the brothers of Yusuf)when they decided what to doand plotted and resolved on it —anddevised their scheme about him. You were not with them to knowhis story and be aware of it. Your knowledge of it comes fromRevelation.

 

Comment: Hafiz As-Suyuti clearly said that the Prophet (saw) was not aware of the story of Yusuf (aley salam) and was not with them. This speech does not leave any ambiguity.

 

 

The Prophet (saw) was not aware of the story of Nuh (aley salam) before Wahy

 

P 475, Surah Hud, Ayah 49,

 

تِلْكَ مِنْ أَنْبَاءِ الْغَيْبِ نُوحِيهَا إِلَيْكَ مَا كُنْتَ تَعْلَمُهَا أَنْتَ وَلَا قَوْمُكَ مِنْ قَبْلِ هَذَا فَاصْبِرْ إِنَّ الْعَاقِبَةَ لِلْمُتَّقِينَ

 

Hafiz As-Suyuti wrote:

 

That(the story of Nuh)is some of the news of the Unseenwhich was concealed from you which We reveal to you, Muhammad. Neither you nor your people knew it (the Qur'an) before this time. So be steadfast in conveying the Message and in the face of injury as Nuh was. The best (most praiseworthy) end result is for those who are godfearing.

 

Comment: Here Hafiz As-Suyuti clearly said that the story of Nuh (aley salam) was concealed to the Prophet (saw).

 

 

And all of these are words of well-known and famous Sufi scholars, and it is translated by a Sufi, so Bralwis cannot say that it is the mistranslation of Salafis-Ahlul Hadith.

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 17th August 2011 13:07

 

Words of Ghulam Rasul Sa’idi opposing the creed of Ahmad Raza Khan Bralwi

 

Errors in the Prophet’s Ijtihad

 

In Vol 3 p 238 of Sharh of “Sahih Muslim”, Ghulam Rasul Sa'idi Al-Bralwi wrote:

The views of Fuqaha Mujtahid about the Ijtihad of the Prophet (saw)

Some scholars have the opinion that Prophet (saw) was not doing Ijtihad at all and all the sayings and actions of his life depended on revelation (Wahi), and as long as the Prophet (saw) did not receive Wahi on a matter, he (saw) would not do it. And that Prophet (saw) was limited to Wahi in every thing and every action. And in no matter did the Prophet (saw) took help from Qiyas (analogy) and Ijtihad…He (saw) never took advice nor acted on advice.

Contrary to this, the majority of the scholars and Fuqaha of Islam have the opinion that the Prophet (saw) was doing Ijtihad and using Qiyas in matters in which he did not receive Wahi. In most cases, the Prophet’s Ijtihad was right, and on some occasions based on some wisdom known to Allah, mistakes happened in his ijtihad, and the reality of these mistakes was that the Prophet (saw) was leaving the better thing, everything is not disliked and detested in its self, but it was not the best according to the Prophet’s high status and great level, and then Allah would correct him through Wahi, and the Prophet (saw) would leave this action which was not the best.

‘Allamah Al-Amidi Ash-Shafi’i wrote that there is difference whether the Prophet (saw) was doing Ijtihad or not. Imam Ahmad and Qadhi Abu Yusuf affirmed Ijtihad, and Abu Ya’la Al-Jubai (Mu’tazili) did not affirm it. Imam Ash-Shafi’i declared it permissible in one of his Risalah, but not definitively. Qadhi Abu Jabbar and Abul Hussain Al-Basri also shared this view, and some people said that in rulings of the Shari’ah the Prophet (saw) was not doing Ijtihad but in matters related to battles, the Prophet saw was doing Ijtihad. (“Ihkam fi Usulil Ahkam”, v 3 p 140)

Bahrul Ulum Al-Hanafi wrote that the Ash’aris and Mu’tazilis do not believe in Ijtihad of Prophet (saw), and the majority say it is permissible, and for them the Prophet (saw) was also worshiping with Ijtihad, and the Ahnaf say that the Prophet (saw) was doing Ijtiahd after waiting for Wahi, and when his ijtihad remained uncorrected (by the Wahi), it is like a cleat text (Qat’i Nass), and for the Ahnaf it is permissible that error can occur in the Prophet’s Ijtihad, but the Prophet (saw) was not left on error. (Bahr Al Ulum Abdul ‘Ali Al-Hanafi, “Fawatih Ar-Rahmut” v 2 p 366)

‘Allamah Al-Amidi wrote that some Shafi’is do not believe in his (saw) error in Ijtihad, and most of Shafi’iah and and Hannabilah and Muhadiths believe in his error in Ijtihad but said that the Prophet was not left remaining on error. (“Ihkam”, v 3 p 164)

Allamah Nawawi wrote: “According to Muhaqiq Ulama, Ijtihad was permissible for the Prophet (saw) and it happened, and the superiority of the Prophet (saw) over all other Mujtahids is that the Prophet (saw) did not remain on error. Some scholars said that Ijtihad was not permissible for the Prophet (saw), and the details of this subject are famous. But in matters of the world, all scholars agree that Ijtihad was permissible and happened. And in rulings (Ahkam) of the religion, most of scholars believe in permissibility of Ijtihad. And some scholars said that the Prophet (saw) had power of certitude, this is why Ijtihad is not permissible for him. And some said that in matters of wars, Ijtihad was permissible for him, and some refused to take a position on this matter. The majority of scholars who said who Ijtihad is permissible (in religious Ahkam), they differ whether the Prophet (saw) did Ijtihad or not. The majority of them said that he (saw) did Ijtihad, some said he did not do it and some refused to take a position on this. Then scholars who said Ijtihad occurred from the Prophet (saw), they differ whether the Prophet (saw) could make error in Ijtihad or not. Muhaqiq said error was not permissible and majority said error was permissible, but the Prophet saw did not remain of error.” (Sharh Muslim v 1 p 46)

According to Quran and Hadith, the saying of the majority is right.

‘Allamah Al-Qurtubi talking about the Ijtihad of the Prophet (saw) wrote: “The Prophet (saw) and all others Prophets are equal in the matter that error could happen in their Ijtihad. But they were not left remaining on error.” Then bringing proof on the Ijtihad of the Prophet (saw), he wrote: “A woman asked the Prophet (saw) about the place where to do her ‘Iddah (waiting period after divorce or death), the Prophet (saw) said to do the ‘Iddah wherever she wants. Then he (saw) said to stay during the ‘Iddah period in her house. A man asked the Prophet (saw) that if he was to become a martyr, what would prevent him from entering paradise, the Prophet (saw) answered: “Nothing” and then the Prophet (saw) called him back and said “Except debt, Jibrail told me about that just yet.” (“Jami Ahkam Al-Quran” v 11 p 309)

Ibn Hajar Al-‘Asqalani wrote: “Getting a text from Wahi was possible for the Prophets on all matters, yet the ruling of Ijtihad was permissible for them, so they can get more recompense, and Ijtihad of Prophets did not remain on error.” (“Fath Al-Bari”, v 6 p 465)

‘Allamah Badrudin Al-‘Ayni wrote on this topic quoted Allamah ibn Jawzi: “Prophets’ Ijtihad are distinguished from other Mujtahid’s …from not remaining on error” (“Umdatul Qari” v 16 p 17)

Proof from the Quran for the Prophet (saw)’s Ijtihad:

Allah said: “And consult them in matters, and you have decided then have Tawakkul in Allah

In this verse, Allah ordered the Prophet (saw) to take advice from the Muslims, and in matters in which Wahi comes, there is no question of taking advice. And if taking advice from the Muslims was not worth then what was the point to order it, rather Allah affirmed that when you have decided something then do it putting your trust in Allah. So we can deduce from these verses that in matters in which the Wahi did not come, the Prophet (saw) was taking advice from his Sahabah and was taking decisions based on Ijtihad, and this verse is a clear proof for Ijtihad happening from the Prophet (saw) and his acting on it.

‘Allamah Al-Alusi wrote in his Tafsir: “Difference occurred in the Prophet (saw) consulting his Sahabah in matters of religion when there was no Wahi, those who denied Ijtihad for him (in matters of religion) went to say it is not permissible (to ask for advice) and those who did not deny it went to say it is permissible (to seek advice) and this is more authentic”

Imam Ar-Razi wrote under this Ayah: “He (saw) was ordered to do Ijtihad when he did not receive Wahi, and Ijtihad strengthens with debate and dialogue, and this is why he was ordered to consult and he consulted them about the prisoners of Badr, and this is from matters of religion

When Prophet (saw) accepted excuses given by hypocrites of Madinah and gave them permission not to go to Jihad, then this verse was revealed: “May Allah forgive you, Why did you grant them leave (for remaining behind you) until truthful were made clear to you and you knew liars” (Tawbah 43)

‘Allamah Al-Alusi said: “A group of scholars have taken proof (from this verse) to prove the Ijtihad of the Prophet (saw) and sometimes he did receive only one recompense (when there is error) and taking proof in this is clear”

Imam Ar-Razi wrote under this verse: “The Prophet (saw) in this event gave permission based on his Ijtihad, and this prove that he (saw) was judging according to Ijtihad

There are a lot of indications in the Quran showing Ijtihad of the Prophet (saw): the Prophet (saw) took ransom for prisoners of Badr, he (saw) read the Janazah of Abdullah ibn Ubay by Ijtihad, the Prophet (saw) made du’a against killers of martyrs of well Ma’unah by Ijtihad and Allah revealed “You do not any share in the decision” to stop him from that (in fact Prophet (saw) invoked against Mushrik of Makkah after Uhud and this Ayat came). The Prophet (saw) turned away from Abdullah ibn Um Maktum based on Ijtihad for which Allah talked to him with love.

Proofs from Ahadith for the Prophet (saw)’s Ijtihad:
 

Narrated Um Salama: in Sahih Al-Bukhari (English translation Muhsin Khan)
 

Allah's Apostle said, "I am only a human being, and you people (opponents) come to me with your cases; and it may be that one of you can present his case eloquently in a more convincing way than the other, and I give my verdict according to what I hear. So if ever I judge (by error) and give the right of a brother to his other (brother) then he (the latter) should not take it, for I am giving him only a piece of Fire."

‘Allamah Al-‘Ayni said in the explanation of this hadeeth: “In this there is proof that the Prophet (saw) was judging with Ijtihad, this has been said by ‘Iyad and this is the saying of Muhaqiq, this has been said by Al-Khattabi”

‘Allamah ibn Hajar Al-‘Asqalani said in the explanation of this Hadith: “And in this is that the Prophet (saw) was judging with Ijtihad when the Wahi did not come, and some people disapproved of that (ijtihad in religious matters) and this Hadith is among clearest proof against them, and in this there is that sometimes he (saw) was giving a judgment based on Ijtihad and it was in reality contrary to this, but if this kind of things happened, the Prophet (saw) would not remain on this…”

Mulla Ali Qari said on this hadeeth: “In this is a proof for the permissibility of error in partial rulings (Ahkam Juzziyah) but in rules of Shari’ah (Qawaid Shar’iah) this is not possible, and people of Usul (ul Fiqh) agreed that the Prophet (saw) did not remain on error in Ahkam”

End of Ghulam Rasul Sa’idi’s words

 

The case of the prisoners of Badr

 

In Sahih Muslim, Kitab Jihad (English translation of Abdul Hamid Siddiqi)

Chapter 18: THE HELP WITH ANGELS IN BADR AND THE PERMISSIBILITY OF THE SPOILS OF WAR

It has been narrated on the authority of 'Umar b. al-Khattab who said: When it was the day on which the Battle of Badr was fought, the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) cast a glance at the infidels, and they were one thousand while his own Companions were three hundred and nineteen. The Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him) turned (his face) towards the Qibla Then he stretched his hands and began his supplication to his Lord:" O Allah, accomplish for me what Thou hast promised to me. O Allah, bring about what Thou hast promised to me. O Allah, if this small band of Muslims is destroyed. Thou will not be worshipped on this earth." He continued his supplication to his Lord, stretching his hands, facing the Qibla, until his mantle slipped down from his shoulders. So Abu Bakr came to him, picked up his mantle and put it on his shoulders. Then he embraced him from behind and said:. Prophet of Allah, this prayer of yours to your Lord will suffice you, and He will fulfil for you what He has promised you. So Allah, the Glorious and Exalted, revealed (the Qur'anic verse):" When ye appealed to your Lord for help, He responded to your call (saying): I will help you with one thousand angels coming in succession." So Allah helped him with angels.

Abu Zumail said that the badith was narrated to him by Ibn 'Abbas who said: While on that day a Muslim was chasing a disbeliever who was going ahead of him, he heard over him' the swishing of the whip and the voice of the rider saying: Go ahead, Haizi'm! He glanced at the polytheist who had (now) fallen down on his back. When he looked at him (carefully he found that) there was a scar on his nose and his face was torn as if it had been lashed with a whip, and had turned green with its poison. An Ansari came to the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) and related this (event) to him. He said: You have told the truth. This was the help from the third heaven. The Muslims that day (i. e. the day of the Battle of Badr) killed seventy persons and captured seventy. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said to Abu Bakr and 'Umar (Allah be pleased with them): What is your opinion about these captives? Abu Bakr said: They are our kith and kin. I think you should release them after getting from them a ransom. This will be a source of strength to us against the infidels. It is quite possible that Allah may guide them to Islam. Then the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: What is your opinion. Ibn Khattab? He said: Messenger of Allah. I do not hold the same opinion as Abu Bakr. I am of the opinion that you should hand them over to us so that we may cut off their heads. Hand over 'Aqil to 'Ali that he may cut off his head, and hand over such and such relative to me that I may but off his head. They are leaders of the disbelievers and veterans among them. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) approved the opinion of Abu Bakr and did not approve what I said The next day when I came to the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him), I found that both he and Abu Bakr were sitting shedding tears. I said: Messenger of Allah, why are you and your Companion shedding tears? Tell me the reason. For I will weep, if not, I will at least pretend to weep in sympathy with you. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I weep for what has happened to your companions for taking ransom (from the prisoners). I was shown the torture to which they were subjected. It was brought to me as close as this tree. (He pointed to a tree close to him.) Then God revealed the verse:" It is not befitting for a Prophet that he should take prisoners until the force of the disbelievers has been crushed..." (Surah Anfal, Ayat 67-70) to the end of the verse:" so eat ye the spoils of war, (it is) lawful and pure. So Allah made booty lawful for them."

In Vol 5 p 343 of his Sharh of “Sahih Muslim”, Ghulam Rasul Sa’idi said:

 

“There is no doubt that fighting the disbelievers until this (until they are powerless) is based on Ijtihad, and maybe the Prophet (saw) thought that the number of people killed would be enough for this purpose (of making disbelievers powerless), and in fact the number killed was not enough, so it was the Prophet’s mistake in Ijtihad, because there is no text revealed defining limit (of being powerless and crushed), and error in Ijtihad in any matters deserves reward and recompense…”

 

The case of the palm tree and the matters of this world

In “Sahih Muslim”, Kitab Fadahil Nabi (saw) (English translation from Abdul Hamid Siddiqi)

Chapter 35: IT IS OBLIGATORY TO FOLLOW THE PROPHET (MAY PEACE BE UPON HIM) IN ALL MATTERS PERTAINING TO RELIGION, BUT ONE IS FREE TO ACT ON ONE'S OWN OPINION IN MATTERS WHICH PERTAIN TO TECHNICAL SKILL

Musa b. Talha reported: I and Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) happened to pass by people near the date-palm trees. He (the Holy Prophet) said: What are these people doing? They said: They are grafting, i. e. they combine the male with the female (tree) and thus they yield more fruit. Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: I do not find it to be of any use. The people were informed about it and they abandoned this practice. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) (was later) on informed (that the yield had dwindled), whereupon he said: If there is any use of it, then they should do it, for it was just a personal opinion of mine, and do not go after my personal opinion; but when I say to you anything on behalf of Allah, then do accept it, for I do not attribute lie to Allah, the Exalted and Glorious.

Rafi' b. Khadij reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) came to Medina and the people had been grafting the trees. He said: What are you doing? They said: We are grafting them, whereupon he said: It may perhaps be good for you if you do not do that, so they abandoned this practice (and the date-palms) began to yield less fruit. They made a mention of it (to the Holy Prophet), whereupon he said: I am a human being, so when I command you about a thing pertaining to religion, do accept it, and when I command you about a thing out of my personal opinion, keep it in mind that I am a human being. 'Ikrima reported that he said something like this.

Anas reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) happened to pass by the people who had been busy in grafting the trees. Thereupon he said: If you were not to do it, it might be good for you. (So they abandoned this practice) and there was a decline in the yield. He (the Holy Prophet) happened to pass by them (and said): What has gone wrong with your trees? They said: You said so and so. Thereupon he said: You have better knowledge (of a technical skill) in the affairs of the world.

 

In his Sharh of “Sahih Muslim”, vol 6 p 827, Ghulam Rasul Sa’idi mentioned the explanation of An-Nawawi, Mulla Ali Qari and Abdul Haqq Ad-Dehlawi:

Allamah Yahya ibn Sharf An-Nawawi wrote: “Scholars have said that what the Prophet (saw) say without Tashri’ (making a law) about things related to the world (Dunya) and living conditions, it is not obligatory to act upon this, but what the Prophet (saw) tells with his Ijtihad about things related to Tashri’ then it is obligatory to act upon this, and this matter in which the Prophet (saw) gave verdict about leaving this mixing of dates, this was not related to laws, it was an advice, and leaving this mixing led to produce less dates, and then the Prophet (saw) said “You know better about things of your Dunya” The reason is that the Prophet (saw)’s attention and preoccupation was fixed on religious knowledge, and he (saw) wasn’t giving to much attention to the Dunya and this is not a defect” (“Sharh Sahih Muslim”)

Mulla Ali Qari said that this Hadith is a proof that the Prophet (saw) was usually not giving attention to matters of this world (Mirqat).

Shaykh Abdul Haqq Ad-Dehlawi said: “The conclusion is that the Prophet (saw) without descent of Wahi, forbade mixing of dates based upon his Ijtihad because this was an action from Jahiliyah time and there was no rational reason about it being effective, and the Prophet (saw) did not pay attention to this, and it is the tradition of Allah that upon this method fruits grow in more quantity. The Prophet (saw) forbade it, but not strongly, but rather he said it would be better not to mix them, and this Hadith is a proof that the Prophet (saw) was not giving attention to things from this world, because there is no link between this action and the hereafter, but when the Prophet (saw) paid attention that the tradition of Allah is that this action is effective, then the Prophet (saw) did not say anything and in some narrations, “You know better about your matters of Dunya.” …”

 

Comment: This is in clear contradiction with the creed of Ahmad Raza Khan Bralwi and this shows that nowadays many Bralwis scholars do not agree with Ahmad Raza Khan that the Prophet (saw) knew everything since his creation, rather for these neo-bralwis the Prophet (saw) only got this knowledge of everything at the end of his life and then became Hazir Nazir (omnipresent), and this new-bralwism is also pure falsehood and has no proof

 

And also Bralwis cannot deny all the scholars quoted above (An-Nawawi, Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani, Badrudin Al-‘Ayni, Mulla Ali Qari, Al-Qurtubi, Al-Alusi, Ar-Razi and others) differing from the creed of Ahmad Raza Khan Bralwi, as the translation is done by their own scholar, so they cannot accuse Salafis of mistranslating or lying.

 

Contradictions in the Tafsir of the Bralwi scholar Na’imudin Al-Murabadi:

 

Allah (Ta’ala) said:

 

And Nooh (Noah) called upon his Lord and said, "O my Lord! Verily, my son is of my family! And certainly, Your Promise is true, and You are the Most Just of the judges”” He said: "O Nooh (Noah)! Surely, he is not of your family; verily, his work is unrighteous, so ask not of Me that of which you have no knowledge! I admonish you, lest you be one of the ignorants. Nooh (Noah) said: "O my Lord! I seek refuge with You from asking You that of which I have no knowledge. And unless You forgive me and have Mercy on me, I would indeed be one of the losers." (Hud : 45-47)

 

The Bralwi scholar Na’imudin Muradabadi said in his Tafsir in Surah Hud Ayat 45-47, about Prophet Nooh asking Allah to forgive his son (Quran Majeed translation of Ahmad Raza Khan p 328):

 

“What is the wisdom in Hadhrat Nooh asking Allah to save his son? Shaykh Abu Mansur al-Maturidi (Rahmatullahi aleyi) said that Kan’an, the son of Hadhrat Nooh (Aley Salatu wa Salam) was an hypocrite and he was pretending to be believer in front of him (Hadhrat Nooh), if he (Kan’an) had made his disbelief apparent, then he (Nooh) would not have made du’a to Allah (Ta’ala) to save him.(Madarik (of An-Nassafi Al-Hanafi))”

Comment: So here, Na’imudin Murabadi tells us that Nooh (aley salam) was not aware of the Kufr of his son, who was hiding it, that is why he made du’a to Allah and if he was to know about that, then he would not have asked Allah to save him.

This is a very interesting explanation from people who say that Awliya know Ghayb, who invoke Al-Gilani for help, believe that Abdul Qadir Al-Jilani knows ghayb, knows their situation, that is why they seek help from him, and at same time, they deny Prophet Nooh (Aley Salam) knowing his son’s Kufr. Isn’t that shocking?

 

So any Bralwi having reason should immediately stop believing that saints know Ghayb and have the power to rescue them

 

Allah (Ta’ala) said:

 

And [Ibrahim's (Abraham)] invoking (of Allah) for his father's forgiveness was only because of a promise he [Ibrahim (Abraham)] had made to him (his father). But when it became clear to him [Ibrahim (Abraham)] that he (his father) is an enemy to Allah, he dissociated himself from him” (Tawbah : 114)

 

Na’imudin Al-Muradabadi said about this verse: “Hadhrat Ibrahim (Aley Salatu wa Salam) asking forgiveness (for his father) was because of the hope of Islam for him (meaning that his father would be Muslim), which Azar promised his son, and he had promised Azar to ask forgiveness for him, and when this hope finished, then he cut off from him” (Translation of Quran of Ahmad Raza Khan p 297 Hashyah 268)

 

Comment: If Ibrahim (aley salam) knew Ghayb, then he would know that his father would not become Muslim. So here the Bralwi scholar agreed that Ibrahim (aley salam) acted upon his hope and not in certitude, so he did not know the future. So it shows that Prophets are only informed of some matters of Ghayb through Wahi and when they do not receive Wahi, they are like normal human beings and do not know Ghayb

 

Allah (Ta’ala) said:

 

Or like the one who passed by a town and it had tumbled over its roofs. He said: "Oh! How will Allah ever bring it to life after its death?" So Allah caused him to die for a hundred years, then raised him up (again). He said: "How long did you remain (dead)?" He (the man) said: "(Perhaps) I remained (dead) a day or part of a day". He said: "Nay, you have remained (dead) for a hundred years, look at your food and your drink, they show no change; and look at your donkey! And thus We have made of you a sign for the people. Look at the bones, how We bring them together and clothe them with flesh". When this was clearly shown to him, he said, "I know (now) that Allah is Able to do all things." (Baqarah : 259)

 

Na’imudin Al-Muradabadi said: “Allah asked him how much days he stayed here. He, with approximation replied one day or less. He thought it was the night of the day he slept. Allah said: you stayed 100 years” (Translation of Quran of Ahmad Raza Khan p 64 Hashyah 540)

 

Comment: Al-Murabadi Al-Bralwi before mentioned that the man mentioned in this story is the Prophet ‘Uzayr, so knowledgeof how many years he slept is denied to this Prophet of Allah, and Prophet only know what they receive through Wahi, else they do not know Ghayb

 

How can then the Bralwi say that Al-Gilani knows Al-Lawh Al-Mahfooz and knows everything?

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 17th August 2011 13:08
Contradiction in the book "Ja ul Haqq" of the Bralwi Mufti Ahmad Yar Khan Na'imi


Ahmad Yar Khan Na'imi wrote concerning the infallibility of Prophets in his "Ja ul Haqq" p 370:



"The Prophets are protected from doing major sins on purpose, so on purpose they cannot do a major sin whether before or after their prophethood. Yes, they can err by forgetfulness but they do not remain on it (error) and are corrected by Allah and they leave it. As for minor sins that contain shameful actions, Prophets are always protected from them before and after prophethood, they cannot do such actions that show low morality and are despicable. As for minor sins that are not such, Prophets can do them, but one should be reminded that it is not for matters related to Tabligh (propagation of the religion) "



Then Ahmad Yar Khan Na'imi then said that this if for other Prophets, but the Prophet (saw) never performed any major or minor sins on purpose or by forgetfulness.



Comment: Despite saying that the Prophet (saw) is free of minor sins, yet this Bralwi great scholar affirmed them for other Prophets. And he also said that they can err by forgetfulness and are corrected by Allah. Now if these Prophets knew Ghayb, would they err and be reminded by Allah? How can a person knowing future forget what will happen in the next minutes, as he will know that in one minute I will do this error by forgetfulness?

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 17th August 2011 13:09
Tafsir of the Bralwi Peer Karam Shah Al-Azhari Al-Bhervi opposing the Bralwi creed



The Prophet (saw) was not aware that Uthman was not killed before Hudaybiyah treaty



Karam Shah Al-Bhervi said in Tafsir of Surah Fath, about the event of the treaty of Hudaybiyah, vol 4 p 568:



"During this time, rumors were propagated that people of Makkah have made Hazrat 'Uthman martyr. Hazrat (the Prophet) (Aley Salatu wa Salam) announced that as long as the blood of Hadhrat Uthman is not being avenged, we will not move from here. The Sahabah were ordered to give Bay'ah of giving their lives"

Comment: So here the Bralwi Peer is clearly saying that the Prophet (saw) was not aware of the reality, that 'Uthman was killed, that is why he decided to avenge 'Uthman.



Prophet Ibrahim was not aware that the strangers that came to his house were angels



Allah said: ""Has the story reached you, of the honoured guests of Ibrahim (Abraham)? When they came in to him, and said, "Salam, (peace be upon you)!" He answered; "Salam, (peace be upon you)," and said: "You are a people unknown to me," Then he turned to his household, so brought out a roasted calf [as the property of Ibrahim (Abraham) was mainly cows]. And placed it before them, (saying): "Will you not eat?" Then he conceived a fear of them (when they ate not). They said: "Fear not." And they gave him glad tidings of an intelligent son, having knowledge." (Zariat : 24 and after)



In vol 4 p 631-632 of his Tafisr, Peer Karam Shah explains how Hazrat Ibrahim treated his guests:



"After seeing their faces and forms he (Ibrahim (Aley Salam)) said in his heart that these people looked foreigners and strangers. They looked different from the people of this region"

Peer Karam Shah further wrote: "He put the food in the table but the guests did not put hands forward. He asked them "Would you not eat food?" There was a tribal custom that if the guests accept food it means that it was good, but if they refuse to eat food, it meant they came with an evil intention. When angels did not put their hands forward (to eat) he (Ibrahim (Aley salam)) felt fear."



Comment: So according to the Tafsir of Karam Shah, Prophet Ibrahim did not know that these were angels, that is why he brought food for them. How can then the Bralwi say that Awliya know Ghayb, know the conditions of people?



Prophet Musa (aley salam) not knowing the reasons behind the actions of Al-Khidr



Allah Ta'ala said :



"Musa (Moses) said to him (Khidr) "May I follow you so that you teach me something of that knowledge (guidance and true path) which you have been taught (by Allah)?" He (Khidr) said: "Verily! You will not be able to have patience with me! "And how can you have patience about a thing which you know not?" Musa (Moses) said: "If Allah will, you will find me patient, and I will not disobey you in aught." He (Khidr) said: "Then, if you follow me, ask me not about anything till I myself mention it to you." So they both proceeded, till, when they embarked the ship, he (Khidr) scuttled it. Musa (Moses) said: "Have you scuttled it in order to drown its people? Verily, you have committed a thing "Imra" (a Munkar - evil, bad, dreadful thing)." He (Khidr) said: "Did I not tell you, that you would not be able to have patience with me?" Musa (Moses)] said: "Call me not to account for what I forgot, and be not hard upon me for my affair (with you)."



Then they both proceeded, till they met a boy, he (Khidr) killed him. Musa (Moses) said: "Have you killed an innocent person who had killed none? Verily, you have committed a thing "Nukra" (a great Munkar - prohibited, evil, dreadful thing)!" (Khidr) said: "Did I not tell you that you can have no patience with me?" Musa (Moses)] said: "If I ask you anything after this, keep me not in your company, you have received an excuse from me."



Then they both proceeded, till, when they came to the people of a town, they asked them for food, but they refused to entertain them. Then they found therein a wall about to collapse and he (Khidr) set it up straight. [Musa (Moses)] said: If you had wished, surely, you could have taken wages for it!" Khidr) said: "This is the parting between me and you, I will tell you the interpretation of (those) things over which you were unable to hold patience



"As for the ship, it belonged to Masakin (poor people) working in the sea. So I wished to make a defective damage in it, as there was a king after them who seized every ship by force. And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared lest he should oppress them by rebellion and disbelief. So we intended that their Lord should change him for them for one better in righteousness and near to mercy. And as for the wall, it belonged to two orphan boys in the town; and there was under it a treasure belonging to them; and their father was a righteous man, and your Lord intended that they should attain their age of full strength and take out their treasure as a mercy from your Lord. And I did it not of my own accord. That is the interpretation of those (things) over which you could not hold patience."



In his Tafseer of Surah Kahf, vol 4 p 40 and after:



"Hazrat Khidr knew that the secrets of Takwini knowledge that was inspired to him, a Sahibe Shariat Rasul cannot remain silent on them. This is why in first place he made isharah to this matter. When these kinds of things will happen, then he will certainly object, and where objection comes, the door giving benefit and taking benefit is closed"



In note 101 p 44, Peer Sahib wrote: "When the third time Hadhart Musa objected then Hazrat Khidr said now we cannot stay together. Before leaving I will inform you these Takwini secrets on which you could not remain silent. Then he (Khidr) told him the reality of all these matters"



Comment: In reality, Al-Khidr was a Prophet and his knowledge was not opposing the Shari'ah, the only matter is that Musa (aley salam) did not know the reasons, and this has clearly been stated by the Bralwi Peer. Then how can Bralwiyah invoke Al-Gilani and believe that he knows Ghayb and knows their situation?



Prophet Sulayman not knowing the news brought by Hud Hud




Allah said: "He (Sulayman) inspected the birds, and said: "What is the matter that I see not the hoopoe? Or is he among the absentees? "I will surely punish him with a severe torment, or slaughter him, unless he brings me a clear reason." But the hoopoe stayed not long, he (came up and) said: "I have grasped (the knowledge of a thing) which you have not grasped and I have come to you from Saba' (Sheba) with true news. "I found a woman ruling over them, and she has been given all things that could be possessed by any ruler of the earth, and she has a great throne. "I found her and her people worshipping the sun instead of Allah, and Shaytan (Satan) has made their deeds fair-seeming to them, and has barred them from (Allah's) Way, so they have no guidance,"... (Sulayman) said: "We shall see whether you speak the truth or you are (one) of the liars." (Naml : 20-27)



Peer Karam Shah said in v 3 note 30 p 439:



"Little time after Hud Hud came and explaining the reason of his absence he said he brought an information (Khabar) which you did not know before..."



And in p 440 note 35: "Hazrat Sulayman (Aley Salam) said he will check his saying. So we know from this that if in front of the ruler, the accused one gives an excuse, it should not be rejected but accepted and it should be checked and after checking he (ruler) should give his decision"

Prophet Dawud (aley salam) not knowing the two people who came to him at night



Allah said: "And has the news of the litigants reached you? When they climbed over the wall into (his) Mihrab (a praying place or a private room). When they entered in upon Dawud (David), he was terrified of them, they said: "Fear not! (We are) two litigants, one of whom has wronged the other, therefore judge between us with truth, and treat us not with injustice, and guide us to the Right Way. Verily, this my brother (in religion) has ninety nine ewes, while I have (only) one ewe, and he says: "Hand it over to me, and he overpowered me in speech. [Dawud (David)] said (immediately without listening to the opponent): "He has wronged you in demanding your ewe in addition to his ewes. And, verily, many partners oppress one another, except those who believe and do righteous good deeds, and they are few." And Dawud (David) guessed that We have tried him and he sought Forgiveness of his Lord, and he fell down prostrate and turned (to Allah) in repentance." (Sad : 21-22)

Peer Karam Shah said vol 4 p 236-237 note 31, after criticizing some Mufasirs for their bringing stories Israilat which do not suit a Prophet, brought some scholar's explanation about this event:

"'Allamah Abu Hayan Al-Andalusi brought the conclusion in his Tafsir "Bahr Al-Muhit": "Our Tahqiq is that the people who crossed the wall and came in the Mihrab where humans. They entered from a way which was not the way to enter, and they came at the time, that was not the time of judgement. He (Dawud (Aley Salam)) feared that they would kill him, but when it became clear to him that they came for judgement as Allah told, then Hazrat Dawud came to know that all this event meaning there coming from not proper way and at wrong time, and his thinking they came to kill him, and his fearing because of this, all this was a test. Allah (Ta'ala) wanted to test him with that, and his bad opinion about them was not according to the level of prophethood. That is why he sought forgiveness"

Comment: The Bralwi Peer clearly approved the explanation of Abu Hayan Al-Andalusi that Dawud (aley salam) did not know who these people were and feared to be killed by them, so how can Bralwis then believe saints know everything, know Lawh Al-Mahfuz, know whatever is in hearts of people? How can Bralwis say: "Ya Ghaus Medad"?



Or will the Bralwis will say that their beloved Peer Karam Shah was a misguided Wahhabi in denying Prophets knowing these matters?



Now the Bralwis should make Tawbah from their claim that Awliya know Ghayb, nothing remains hidden from them, Awliya know whatever will happen in the future.





May Allah send Salah and Salam on the Prophet (saw), his household, his companions, and those who follow them.



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Hazir Nazir

The Ahadith of Sahih Muslim in this article are taken from the translation of Abdul Hamid Siddiqi with slight changes, and the Ahadith of "Sahih Al-Bukhari" are taken from the translation of Dr Muhsin Khan also with slight changes.



Some Ahadith of "Sahih Al-Bukhari" about Al-Hawd:




Book "To make the heart tender (Ar-Riqaq):

Volume 8, Book 76, Number 533:



Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet stood up among us and addressed (saying) "You will be gathered, barefooted, naked, and uncircumcised (as Allah said): 'As We began the first creation, We shall repeat it.' (21.104) And the first human being to be dressed on the Day of Resurrection will be (the Prophet) Ibrahim Al-Khalil.



Then will be brought some men of my community who will be taken towards the left (i.e., to the Fire), and I will say: 'O Lord! My companions whereupon Allah will say: You do not know what they did after you left them. I will then say as the pious slave, 'Isa (Jesus) said, "And I was witness over them while I dwelt amongst them.......... (up to) ...the All-Wise." (5.117-118).



The narrator added: Then it will be said that those people (relegated from Islam, that is) kept on turning on their heels (deserted Islam).



Volume 8, Book 76, Number 584:



Narrated Anas: The Prophet said, "Some of my companions will come to me at my Lake Fount (al-Hawd), and after I recognize them, they will then be taken away from me, whereupon I will say, 'My companions!' Then it will be said, 'You do not know what they innovated (new things) in the religion after you."



Volume 8, Book 76, Number 585:



Narrated Abu Hazim from Sahl bin Sa'd: The Prophet said, "I am your predecessor (forerunner) at the Lake-Fount (Al-Hawd), and whoever will pass by there, he will drink from it and whoever will drink from it, he will never be thirsty. There will come to me some people whom I will recognize, and they will recognize me, but a barrier will be placed between me and them."



Abu Hazim added: An-Nu'man bin Abi 'Aiyash, on hearing me, said. "Did you hear this from Sahl?" I said, "Yes." He said, " I bear witness that I heard Abu Said Al-Khudri saying the same, adding that the Prophet said: 'I will say: They are of me (i.e. my followers). It will be said, 'You do not know what they innovated (new things) in the religion after you left'. I will say, 'Far removed, far removed (from mercy), those who changed (their religion) after me."



Abu Hurayrah narrated that the Prophet said, "On the Day of Resurrection a group of companions will come to me, but will be driven away from the Lake-Fount, and I will say, 'O Lord (those are) my companions!' It will be said, 'You have no knowledge as to what they innovated after you left; they turned apostate as renegades."



Volume 8, Book 76, Number 586:



Narrated Ibn Al-Musaiyab: The companions of the Prophet said, "Some men from my companions will come to my Lake-Fount and they will be driven away from it, and I will say, 'O Lord, my companions!' It will be said, 'You have no knowledge of what they innovated after you left: they turned apostate as renegades."




In the chapter "Chapter Afflictions and the End of the World":



Volume 9, Book 88, Number 172:



Narrated Asma': The Prophet said, "I will be at my Lake-Fount waiting for whoever will come to me. Then some people will be taken away from me whereupon I will say, 'My followers!' It will be said, 'You do not know they turned Apostates as renegades.'"



(Ibn Abi Mulaika said, "Allah, we seek refuge with You from turning on our heels from the (Islamic) religion and from being put to trial").



Volume 9, Book 88, Number 173:

Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "I am your predecessor at the Lake-Fount and some men amongst you will be brought to me, and when I will try to hand them some water, they will be pulled away from me by force whereupon I will say, 'O Lord, my companions!' Then the Almighty will say, 'You do not know what they did after you left, they introduced new things into the religion after you.'"

Volume 9, Book 88, Number 174:

Narrated Sahl bin Sa'd: I heard the Prophet saying, "I am your predecessor at the Lake-Fount, and whoever will come to it, will drink from it, and whoever will drink from it, will never become thirsty after that. There will come to me some people whom I know and they know me, and then a barrier will be set up between me and them."



Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri added that the Prophet further said: "I will say those people are from me. It will be said, 'You do not know what changes and new things they did after you.' Then I will say, 'Far removed (from mercy), far removed (from mercy), those who changed (the religion) after me!"



Some Ahadith of "Sahih Muslim" about al-Hawd:



The Book pertaining to the Excellent Qualities of the Holy Prophet (saw) and his companions (Kitab Al-Fadhail)



Chapter 9: The cistern of our apostle (saw) and its characteristics



Book 30, Number 5682:



Sahl (b. Sa'd) reported: I heard Allah's Apostle (saw) as saying : I shall go to the Cistern before you and he who comes would drink and he who drinks would never feel thirsty, and there would come to me people whom I would know and who would know me. Then there would be intervention between me and them.



Abu Hazim said that Nu'man b. Abu 'Ayyash heard it and I narrated to them this Hadith, and said: Is it this that you heard Sahl saying? He said: Yes, and I bear witness to the fact that I heard it from Abu Sa'id Khudri also, but he made this addition that he (the Holy Prophet) would say: They are my followers (they are of me), and it would be said to him: You do not know what they did after you and I will say to them: Woe to him who changes (his religion) after me.



Book 30, Number 5684:



Asma', daughter of Abu Bakr said: Allah's Messenger (saw) said: I would be on the Cistern and so that I would be seeing those who would be coming to me from you, but some people would be detained (before reaching me). I would say: My Lord, they are my followers and belong to my Ummah, and it would be said to me: Do you know what they did after you? By Allah, they did not do good after you, and they turned back upon their heels.



He (the narrator) said: lbn Abu Mulaika used to say (in supplication): O Allah, I seek refuge with Thee that we should turn back upon our heels or put to any trial about our religion.



Book 30, Number 5686:



'A'isha reported: I heard Allah's Messenger (saw) say in the company of his Companions: I would be on the Cistern waiting for those who would be coming to me from amongst you. By Allah, some persons would be prevented from coming to me, and I would say: My Lord, they are my followers (they are of me) and people of my Ummah. And He would say: You don't know what they did after you; they had been constantly turning back on their heels.



Book 30, Number 5686:



Umm Salama, the wife of Allah's Apostle (saw), said I used to hear from people making a mention of the Cistern, but I did not hear about it from Allah's Messenger (saw). One day while a girl was combing me I heard Allah's Messenger (saw) say: "O people." I said to that girl: Keep away from me. She said: He (the Holy Prophet) has addressed the men only and he has not invited the attention of the women. I said: I am amongst the people also (and have thus every right to listen to the things pertaining to religion).



Allah's Messenger (saw) said: I shall be your harbinger on the Cistern; therefore, be cautious lest one of you should come (to me) and may be driven away like a stray camel. I would ask the reasons, and it would be said to me: You don't know what innovations they made after you. And I would then also say: Be away.



Book 30, Number 5690:



'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger (saw) as saying; I shall be there at the Cistern before you, and I shall have to contend for some people, but I shall have to yield. I would be saying: My Lord, they are my companions, they are my companions, and it would be said: You don't know what innovations they made after you.




Some Ahadith in Al-Bukhari and Muslim mention that the Prophet (saw) will say as Prophet 'Isa (aley Salam), meaning he is not witness of his community after his death.



In Sahih Al-Bukhari, Book of Prophetic Commentary on the Qur'an (Tafseer of the Prophet (saw))


Volume 6, Book 60, Number 149:



Narrated Ibn Abbas: Allah's Apostle delivered a sermon and said, "O people! You will be gathered before Allah bare-footed, naked and not circumcised." Then (quoting Quran) he said:--



"As We began the first creation, We shall repeat it. A promise We have undertaken: Truly we shall do it." (21.104)



The Prophet then said, "The first of the human beings to be dressed on the Day of Resurrection, will be Abraham.



Lo! Some men from my community will be brought and then (the angels) will drive them to the left side (Hell-Fire). I will say. 'O my Lord! (They are) my companions!' Then a reply will come (from Almighty), 'You do not know what they did after you.' I will say as the pious slave (the Prophet Jesus) said: "And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them. When You took me up. You were the Watcher over them and You are a Witness to all things." (5.117) Then it will be said, "These people have continued to be apostates since you left them."



Volume 6, Book 60, Number 150:



Narrated Ibn Abbas: The Prophet said, "You will be gathered (on the Day of Resurrection) and some people will be driven (by the angels) to the left side (and taken to Hell) whereupon I will say as the pious slave (Jesus) said: "And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them...the ALMIGHTY, the All Wise." (5.117-118)



In "Sahih Muslim" Kitab al-jannat wa sifat na'imiha wa ahliha (Book pertaining to paradise, its description, its bounties and its intimates)



Chapter 14: Pertaining to the destruction of the world and assembling on the day of resurrection



Book 040, Number 6847:



"And, behold! some persons of my Ummah would be brought and taken to the left and I would say: My Lord, they are my companions, and it would be said: You do not know what they did after you, and I would say just as the pious servant (Hadrat 'Isa) said: "I was a witness regarding them as I remained among them and Thou art a witness over everything, so if Thou chastisest them, they are Thy servants and if Thou for- givest them, Thou art Mighty, Wise" (v. 117-118).



And it would be said to him: They constantly turned to their heels since you left them. This Hadith has been transmitted on the authority of Waki' and Mu'adh (and the words are): "What new things they fabricated."



Explanation of the Ahadith of Al-Hawd by Imam An-Nawawi



The Hadith of Al-Hawd are Mutawatir as mentioned by An-Nawawi in his explanation of Sahih Muslim.



In the chapter of "Purification", Bab Istihbab Italatu Ghurah wa Tahjil fil Wudhu



Book 002, Number 0480:



Abu Huraira reported the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: My people would come to me on the Cistern (Al-Hawd) and I would drive away persons (from it) just as a person drives away other people's camels from his camels. They (the hearers) said: Apostle of Allah, would you recognize us? He replied: Yea, you would have a mark which other people will not have. You would come to me with a white blaze on your foreheads and white marks on your feet because of the traces of ablution. A group among you would be prevented from coming to me, and they would not meet me, and I would say: O my Lord, they are my companions. Upon this an angel would reply to me saying: Do you know what these people did after you?



Imam An-Nawawi said in the explanation of this Hadith:



"And in another version: "They have changed after you, and I will say: Woe to you" and this is among (matters) in which scholars differed about who (the people) meant are, with different opinions:



One of them: The people meant are the hypocrites and the apostates, and it is possible that they would be resurrected with Al-Ghurah wat Tahjeel (white blaze on the foreheads and white marks on the feet), and the Prophet (saw) will call them because of their marks that will be on them, and he will be told: these are not people about whom I gave promise, these changed after you, meaning they did not die on their apparent Islam.



The second (saying): The people meant are those who (were Muslim) at the time of the Prophet (saw) then became apostate after him, and the Prophet (saw) will call them even if they did not have the marks of Wudhu as he knew them to be upon Islam in his life, and he will be told: they turned apostate after you.



The third (saying): the people meant are the sinners and people who committed great sins (Kabair) and died upon Tawhid and the people of innovation who did not come out of Islam because of their innovations. And according to this saying these people will not be prevented (from Al-Hawd) because of hell, but it is possible that they will be prevented as a punishment and then Allah (Subhanahu wa Ta'ala) will forgive them and He will make them enter the paradise without punishment.



The people of this saying say: It is not impossible they had Al-Ghurah wa Tahjeel, and it is possible they were at the time of the Prophet (saw) and after him but he recognized them because of their marks.



And the Imam Al-Hafiz Abu 'Amr ibn Abdil Barr said: "Everybody who innovated in the religion will be among people coming to the Hawd as the Khawarij and the Rawafid and all people of desire" and he said: "And likewise the unjust people who were busy in oppression and discredit of the truth and the cursed people because of great sins" and he said: "All of these people, it is feared for them that they are the people meant by this narration, Allah knows best." End of An-Nawawi's words



In Book 30, Number 5706:



Anas b. Malik reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying: "Some persons who had accompanied me would turn to my Cistern; when I would see them and they would be presented to me, they would be detained in the way while coming to me. I would say: My Lord, they are my companions, they are my companions, and it would be said to me: You don't know what innovations they made after you."



An-Nawawi said after this Hadith: "Al-Qadhi 'Iyad said: "This is a proof for the authenticity of the interpretation of those who considered that they were apostates, and this is why it was said: may you perish (Suhqan Suhqan), and this is not said for the people of sins of the community, rather intercession is done for them...".



And he said: "It is said: they are from two categories, one of them is that of sinners that turned away from the right path not from Islam, and these are changing their good deeds into evils ones, and the second (category) is those who turned to real disbelief, turning on their heels, and the name of change (Tabdil) include both categories."




Explanation of Hafiz ibn Hajar on Ahadith of Al-Hawd



Hafiz Ibn Hajar said in "Fath ul Bari" Kitab Riqaq Bab Kayfa Al-Hashr:



"Firabri said that it is mentioned from Abi Abdillah Al-Bukhari from Qabisah that these (people) are those who became apostate at time of Abu Bakr and Abu Bakr fought them, meaning until they were killed and died on disbelief. Al-Isma'ili brought a full Isnad of that trough another way from Qabisah. Al-Khattabi said that none of the Sahabah did became apostate, only some hard Bedouins bringing no help to religion did became apostate, and this does not bring any blame on the famous Sahabah...



And others said : the disbelief is on its apparent meaning, and the meaning of "my Ummah" is the Ummah of Da'wah (the community addressed by the Prophet (saw), meaning all mankind including disbelievers) and not the Ummah of Ijabah (the community who believed in the Prophet saw, meaning our community), and this is given precedence because of his saying in the Hadith of Abu Hurayrah : "Then I would say to them go away (Suhqan)" and this is also strengthened by the fact that their situation remained hidden to him, and if they were from Ummah of Ijabah, then he would know their situation as their actions are presented to him.



And this (view) is refuted by his saying in the Hadith of Anas: "until I recognized them" ('araftuhum) and the same in the Hadith of Abu Hurayrah.



(Tr: So the Prophet (saw) did recognize them, so they could not be disbelievers, rather were people he knew, and he did not know what they did after him, and the Hadith of the actions being presented is weak as it will follow)



And Ibn Tin said that it is possible that they were hypocrites or doers of Kabair (major sins). And it has been said that they were people from hard Bedouins who entered Islam out of fear.



Ad-Dawudi said: there is nothing preventing people of major sins and innovations to be from these people.



And An-Nawawi said: And it is said they are the hypocrites and the apostate, and it is possible that they would be resurrected with Al-Ghurah wat Tahjeel (white blaze on the foreheads and white marks on the feet) because of them being from the Ummah generally, and he (saw) will call them because of their marks that will be on them and he will be told: they changed after you, meaning they did not die on the apparent (Islam) on which you left them.



'Iyad and others said: And after this, their Ghurah and Tahjeel will disappear and their light will extinguish.



And it has been said that there is no necessity for them to have marks, rather he (saw) will call them from what he knew from their Islam.



And it has been said that they are people of major sins and innovations who died on Islam, so we cannot be certain of their entry into fire, as it is permissible that they are first prevented from Al-Hawd as a punishment for them, then they are being forgiven.



And it is not impossible that they have signs, so he recognizes them with their signs whether they were from his time or after him.



And 'Iyad, Al-Baji and others gave preference to the saying of Qabisah, the narrator of the narration, that they became apostate after him (saw), and the fact that he recognized them does not necessitate them to have marks, because it is a favour that shows the actions of the Muslim, and the actions of the apostate are cancelled, so he will recognize them individually and not because of their characteristics, (he will recognize them basing) on what they were before their apostasy.



And it is not far that hypocrites from his time might be included in these people, and it will come in the Hadith of Shafa'ah that "this Ummah will remain with hypocrites inside it", so this shows that they will be gathered with the believers and their individuals will be recognized, although they will not have these signs, and he will called those he will recognize, thinking that their condition upon which he left them in the world, did not change.



As for including the people of innovations in this, then it is far because he called them: "My companions" and people of innovations innovated after him. And it has been answered by taking the meaning of companion in a general meaning,



And this is also far because we do not say "Woe to you (Suhqan)" to a Muslim although he is an innovator. This has been answered that it is not forbidden to say that to someone known to be judged with punishment for his sins, then he will be saved with the Shafa'ah, then his saying "Suhqan" is acknowledging the decision of Allah with remain of hope, and likewise for people of major sins.



And Al-Baydhawi said that his saying "apostate" is not a clear prove for their being apostate from Islam, rather it is a possibility, and it is also possible that it means they were sinners among believers, turning away from the right path and they changed good actions by evil ones. End of his words.



Abu Ya'la narrated with a Hasan Isnad from Abu Sa'id : "I heard the Messenger of Allah (saw)" ... he mentioned the Hadith and he said : "O people, I will be your predecessor on the Hawd, when you will come, a man will say : "O Prophet of Allah, I am so and so ibn so and so" and another will say : "I am so and so (Fulan) son of so and so" and I will say : as for the genealogy I know it, but maybe you changed after me and became apostate."



And Ahmad and Al-Bazzar narrated a similar version from the Hadith of Jabir..." End of Ibn Hajar's words



So we can see all the scholars above, whether they say these people were apostate or innovators and sinners, all agree on the fact that the Prophet (saw) did not know their condition, their innovations or apostasy.



Those who say they were his former companions then became apostate during the era of Abu Bakr, say he will recognize them as he knew them in the world, and he was not aware their situation changed. Or these apostates might have marks that will disappear, and the Prophet (saw) will recognise them with their marks.



Those who say these people were innovators or sinners of his community and not only people of his era, say that the Prophet (saw) will recognize them with their marks of Wudhu and will call them companions because of them being from his community, and the meaning of apostasy is not real.



In "Umdatul Qari", Al-Ayni, Imam of the Ahnaf of his time, quoted the same scholars as Ibn Hajar: ibn Tin, Ad-Dawudi, An-Nawawi, Qadhi 'Iyad and others. So he also agreed on the explanations that the Prophet (saw) did not recognize their apostasy or innovations.



Explanation of Abu 'Abdillah Al-Qurtubi and Abul 'Abbas Al-Qurtubi on the Ahadith of Al-Hawd



Imam Abu 'Abdillah Al-Qurtubi (author of the famous Tafsir) said in his "Tazkirah fi Ahwalil Mowta wal Akhirah" after quoting the Ahadith of Al-Hawd:



"Chapter: Our scholar, may Allah's mercy be on them all, have stated:



Whoever apostasies from the religion of Allah or innovates in it what displeases Allah and what Allah did not legislate, they will be pushed away and distanced from it, and the most pushed away are those who oppose the Jama'ah of Muslims and separate from their way, as the Khawarij with their difference in sects, the Rawafid with their difference in misguidance, and the Mu'tazilah with their categories of passion, all of them are people who have brought change (to the religion).



And this is also the case for the darkness of people involved in tyranny and oppression and discredit of the truth and killing those who support the truth and their humiliation.



The same for those who commit major sins openly and exceed the bounds in sins and the group of people of deviation and desire and innovation.



Then the distance can be in a state then they can approach it after forgiveness if it is a change in actions and not in beliefs.



And on this supposition, they will be recognized (by the Prophet) by the marks of their Wudhu, and then they will be told: May you perish.



And if they are among hypocrites that were present at time of the Prophet (saw) and they were showing faith and hiding disbelief, then he will consider them on Zahir (evident actions) and then their covers (real states) will be uncovered (to him) and he will say to them : May you perish. End of Qurtubi's words





Abul 'Abbas Al-Qurtubi said in his explanation of "Sahih Muslim":



"The scholars differed on the interpretation of this, and what Al-Baji and others went to, and it is the clearest according to the context of the Ahadith, is that these persons that will be told these words, are people that were hypocrites and apostates among the Sahabah and others, so they will be resurrected in the community of the Prophet (saw), as it has preceded in his saying "This community will stay with its hypocrites within it", and they will have marks of Ghurah and Tahjil of this Ummah, and when the Prophet (saw) will see them, he will recognize them with their marks and (he will recognize) those who were among his companions individually and he will call them: "come here", and when they will come, there will be a barrier between them and him and they will be turned towards the left side, and the Prophet (saw) will say: "O my Lord, they are of me and from my community" and in other words "they are my companions" and it will then be told to him: "You do not know what they invented after you, they did not stop being apostates since you left them", and then the Ghurah and Tahjil will disappear from them, and their light will extinguish and they will remain in darkness..." End of Al-Qurtubi's words.



Conclusion



We clearly learn from these Ahadith that the Prophet (saw) was not aware of their apostasy or innovations they did after him:



1) The Prophet (saw) seeing them being removed asked Allah: "O my Lord, they are my companions" and in some narrations: "they are of me". In a narration of Muslim narrated by Umm Salamah, the Prophet (saw) clearly asked for the reason: "I would ask the reasons" so it is a clear proof that the Prophet (saw) did not know the reason for their removal from the Hawd.



2) The angels and Allah in some narrations clearly denied the Prophet's knowledge of what they did after him. So this is a clear explanation leaving no room for the claim that the Prophet (saw) knew their condition. Whoever claims the Prophet (saw) knew their conditions is clearly opposing these agreed upon texts.



3) The Prophet (saw) after knowing their state had strong words against them: "Suhqan", meaning "may you perish, Woe to you, be far away"...so it shows that the Prophet (saw) after knowing the reality of their condition changed his behaviour towards them, and instead of calling them companions had strong words of rejection.



4) In some narrations of Al-Bukhari and Muslim, the Prophet (saw) recited the verse: "And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them. When You took me up. You were the Watcher over them and You are a Witness to all things." (5.117)



And this verse clearly shows that the Prophet (saw) was not aware of their apostasy or innovations after him, as 'Isa (aley Salam) was not aware of what Christians said about him after him. And the verse clearly tells the Prophet (saw) was a witness when alive, and after he did not know their conditions.



5) None of the scholars above said that the Prophet (saw) knew their true conditions, some said they are apostate and the Prophet (saw) will recognize them according to what he knew of them being Muslim when he was alive, or they are hypocrites and the Prophet (saw) will call them according to their apparent state, and he did not know their inner state, or these people are innovators and sinners the Prophet (saw) will recognize them by their marks of Wudhu, or some few even said they are apostates and hypocrites, yet they will still have marks by which they will be recognized. So all of these scholars agree that the Prophet (saw) was not aware of these people's apostatsy or innovations.





As for who these people are, the words "and there would come to me people whom I would know and who would know me" and the words "They constantly turned to their heels since you left them" and the words in a narration of Muslim: "Some persons who had accompanied me would turn to my Cistern" favour the view that these people were companions during the life of the Prophet (saw) and then became apostate like people who refused to give Zakah or joined Musaylamah Al-Kazzab.



Yet the other view of them being innovators is also possible, and the Prophet (saw) can know them by their marks, and the words "since you left them" can mean "since you left your community", meaning the Prophet (saw) is not aware of the actions of the innovators of his Ummah after he left the Ummah. What can strengthen this view is that in some Hadith of Al-Bukhari and Muslim, the Prophet (saw) said these people are from his community:



"Then will be brought some men of my community who will be taken towards the left (i.e., to the Fire), and I will say: 'O Lord! My companions whereupon Allah will say: You do not know what they did after you left them."



So there is no definitive proof in the words "companions" to mean it is restricted to the era of the Prophet (saw), as the Prophet (saw) also named them as men of his community. So either we say that "men of my community" does not mean they belong to the community but they will be resurrected in the community, or we say that the words "Some persons who accompanied me" is a narration in meaning (bil Ma'na), and other narrations mention "men of my community" and this should be favoured.



Also the Hadith in Sahih Muslim: "My people would come to me on the Cistern (Al-Hawd) and I would drive away persons (from it) just as a person drives away other people's camels from his camels. They (the hearers) said: Apostle of Allah, would you recognize us? He replied: Yea, you would have a mark which other people will not have. You would come to me with a white blaze on your foreheads and white marks on your feet because of the traces of ablution. A group among you would be prevented from coming to me, and they would not meet me, and I would say: O my Lord, they are my companions..." favours that these people are from the Ummah of the Prophet (saw) as the context shows they will also have marks of Wudhu, although it is not clearly indicated. But mentionning that this group will be among them, jus after saying that he (saw) will recognize them because of their marks of Wudhu seem to favour they will also be recognised with these marks. Also the Prophet (saw) did not mention that this group will not have these marks, and if they did not have these marks, the Prophet (saw) would know they are not from his community.



And this view has been favoured by Ibn Battal in his explanation of "Sahih Al-Bukhari":



"As for the Ahadith of the people of this chapter dealing with the mention of those the Prophet (saw) would recognize from his community, and their would be separated from him as they innovated after him, then this includes every innovation in the religion, about which Allah is not pleased, and opposing the group of the Muslims. And all the groups of innovations are Mubbadilun (changing their religion) and innovators (Muhdithun), and likewise the people of injustice and oppression opposing the truth and its people, all are Muhdithun and Mubaddilun, doing things that are not in Islam, and all of them are included in the meaning of this Hadith."



He said further: "Abu Ja'far Ad-Dawudi said: "We cannot definitively say that people removed (from the Hawd) will enter the hell, because it is possible that they were removed for a period, and they will face the terror of this day and its hardships as much as Allah wills, and Allah will give them as much as He wills from His mercy, and the words "Suhqan Suhqan" do not mean that there will be no intercession for them after..." end if ibn Battal's words



Note: the words "Suhqan" can be said for people who will go to hell, as this community will divide in seventy three sects, and they will all go to hell except one, so it means the other sects of innovaters will go to hell, and the Khawarij are also called the dogs of hell, so these people can go to hell, yet they will have marks of Wudhu by which they will be recognized, and then taken by Angels towrds the left side and put in hell, and then after some time they exit the hell and go to paradise because of their Tawhid.



Allah knows best



The weakness of the Hadith "Your actions will be presented to me"



Taken and adapted from "As-Silsilah Ad-Da'ifah" vol 2 p 404, n 975 of Shaykh Albani:

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Hafiz Abu Bakr Al-Bazzar narrated in his "Musnad" from Yusuf ibn Musa, from 'Abdul Majid ibn Abdil 'Aziz ibn Abi Ruwad from Sufyan from 'Abdullah ibn Saib from Zathan from 'Abdullah and he is Ibn Mas'ud from Prophet saw :



"Allah has (appointed) angels wandering on earth, they bring me the salam of my Ummah", and the Prophet saw said : "My life is good for you, you narrate me and I narrate to you, and my death is good for you, your actions will be presented to me, what I will see from good deeds I will praise Allah, what I will see from bad deeds, I will ask forgiveness to Allah for you"



And Al Bazzar said : "We do not know anyone who narrated the last part from 'Abdullah (ibn Mas'ud) except from this way (this sanad)"



The first part : "Allah has (appointed) angels wandering on earth, they bring me the salam of my Ummah" has been transmitted by An-Nassai ( 1/189) from many Asanid from Sufyan Ath-Thawri from 'Abdullah ibn Saib, and from Al-A'mash in "Mu'jam Al-Kabir" of At-Tabarani ( 3/81/2) , "Akhbar Asbahan" of Abu Nu'aym ( 2/205) and Ibn Asakir ( 9/189/2).



Shaykh Albani said : "The agreement of a group of Thiqah (trustworthy) narrators on this narration from Sufyan without mention of end of Hadith "My life...", and A'mash following him in that shows for me the Shuzooz of this addition (meaning the addition is shaadh), because 'Abdul Majid ibn Abdul Aziz is alone in reporting it, and how not when he his Mutakalam Fihi (spoken about) because of his memory, despite his being from narrators of Muslim, a group has declared him to be Thiqah, and other have declared him weak, and some mentioned the reason (for weakening).



Al-Khalili said : "He is Thiqah, but he makes mistakes in Ahadith"



An-Nassai said : " He is not strong, his Hadith are written"



Ibn Abdil Barr said : "He narrated from Malik Ahadith in which he made mistakes"



Ibn Hibban said in "Al-Majruhin" ( 2/152) : "Very Munkarul Hadith, he mixes narrations, he narrates Manakir from famous (people), and he deserves to be abandoned"



I say : This is why Hafiz (ibn Hajar) said in "At-Taqrib" : "Saduq, he makes mistakes"



So when you know this, then the saying of Hafiz Al-Haythami in Majma' ( 6/24) : " Narrated by Al-Bazzar and the men are the men of the Sahih", then it gives error that nobody has been criticized among them.



Maybe As-Suyuti has been misled by this when he said : " Its Sanad is authentic"



And this is why, I say, that Hafiz al-'Iraqi, the Shaykh of Al-Haythami, was more precise in telling the reality of this Isnad in his "Takhreej Al-Ihya" ( 4/12) where he said :



"The narrators are narrators of the Sahih, except that Abdel Majeed ibn Abi Ruwad although Muslim narrated from him, and Ibn Ma'in and An-Nassa'i declared him thiqqah, other declared him to be weak"



As for his saying or from his son in "Tarh At-Tathrib fi Sharh Taqrib" ( 3/297) : " Its Isnad is Jayd (correct)", then it is not Jayd for me, and he was saying this if there was no opposition of 'Abdul Majid to Thiqah (group) as it has preceded. So this is a defect in the hadeeth...



Yes, the Isnad has been declared authentic in a Mursal way from Bakr ibn Abdullah Al-Muzani, and it has three ways :



First from Ghalib Al-Qattan from him (Al-Muzani), it has been quoted by 'Ismail Al-Qadhi in "Fadl Salah 'ala An-Nabi" p 25 with my verification, and ibn Sa'd in Tabaqat (2/2/2), and all his men are thiqah, narrators of the two "Sahih".



Second from Kathir ibn Fadl from him (Al-Muzani), also quoted by 'Ismail p 26, and the narrators are narrators of Muslim except Kathir, and the name of his father is Yasar, and he is known as an Hafiz has shown in "Lisan" in refutation of the saying of Ibn Al-Qattan that his condition is not known.



Third from Jisr ibn Farqad from him, it has been quoted by Al-Harith ibn Abi Usamah in his Musnad (230 in "Bughyatul Bahith an Zawaid Musnad Al-Harith") and Jisr is weak."

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As for the Hadith of Anas, it has two ways :



From Abu Sa'id Al-Hassan ibn Ali ibn Zakaryah ibn Salih Al-'Adawi Al-Basri, from Kharash from Anas in a marfu' way and in summaraised way similar to this and in it there is :



"Your actions will be presented to me in the night of Monday and Thursday"



It has been quoted by Ibn 'Adi ( 2/124) and Abu Mansur Al-Jarbazqani in "Thani min Uroos Al-Ajzai" ( 2/139) and 'Abdul Qadir ibn Muhammad Al-Qurshi al-Hanafi in his "Juzz" ( 2/2) and Hafiz Al-'Iraqi (4/12) attributed it to Al-Harith ibn Abi Usamah in his "Musnad" with a weak isnad, and this is this isnad, and shown by Al-Manawi in "Fayd Al-Qadir", after mentioning its weakness:



" Because there is in it Kharash ibn Abdallah dropped (Saqit) 'Admun, and he does not come except with Abi Sa'id Al-'Adawi Al-Kazab (great liar), and ibn Hibban said it is not permissible to write his Ahadith except to know him..."



I say : the Isnad is fabricated, so there is no need to be happy from it.



Second from Yahya ibn Khidam from Muhammad ibn Abdil Malik ibn Zyad Abu Salamah Al-Ansari from Malik ibn Dinar from Anas similar to this and there is in it :



"Your actions will be presented to me every Thursday"



This has been quoted by Abu Tahir Al-Mukhlis in "Thanee minal 'Aashir min Hadithihi" ( 2/212) from Yahya (ibn Muhammad ibn Sa'id) from Yahya ibn Khidam.



I say : It is also fabricated because of this Al-Ansari (Muhammad ibn 'Abdil Malik ibn Zyad Abu Salamah Al-Ansari)



Al-'Uqayli said : Munakr ul Hadith.



Ibn Hibban said : Very Munkar ul Hadith, he reports from thiqah what is not from
their Hadith, basing on him (to justify matters) is not permissible"



Ibn Tahir said : Liar...



Al-Hakim Abu 'Abdillah said : "He narrates fabricated Ahadith"
...



In conclusion, this Hadith is weak from all its ways, the best among them being from Hadith of Bakr ibn 'Abdillah Al-Muzanee and it is Mursal, which is among weak categories for Muhadith, then the Hadith of ibn Mas'ud, and it is a mistake, and the worst is the Hadith of Anas with both ways"



End of shaykh Albani's words



So one can see that this Hadith is never to the standards of Al-Bukhari and Muslim, and it opposes the narration of Al-Hawd that is from Al-Bukhari and Muslim, which denies the Prophet (saw)'s knowledge of what some people did after him, and the narration of Al-Hawd is a Qati' Nass (clear text, leaving no doubt), as these Ahadith are Mutawatir and accepted by the community (Talaqi bil Qabul).



And the Hadith of the actions of action being presented to the Prophet (saw) despite opposing the Hadith of Al-Hawd, it does also oppose the creed of the Brawliyah, as they consider that the Prophet (saw) is a witness of all actions, and not that these actions are presented to him, meaning he did not know them before their being presented, speciqllay the Hadith of Anas about actions being presented on Thursday and Monday, it would mean that the other days, the Prophet (saw) is not aware of the actions of his community.



Also these Ahadith only speak about the actions of the community, not of disbelievers, animals or plants, while Brawli believe the Prophet (saw) sees everything that happen on earth.



If ever this Hadith was to be authentic, it would only mean that the Prophet (saw) is being presented with whole actions of his community, meaning total of prayers, fasting...and he will praise Allah for these, and also total of sins, and he will ask forgiveness for them, and it cannot mean that Bakr prayed this day, 'Amr did a sin this day, as the Prophet (saw) was not aware of the actions of the people removed from his Hawd, enquired about the reason of their being removed, and he was informed that he did not know what they did after him.



Yet the Prophet (saw) taught us to recite a du'a after the call to prayer, and whoever recites it, he (saw) will intercede for him on the day of Judgement, and he did not say in his grave, which shows he does not seek intercession and forgiveness in his grave, rather will do it on the day of judgement.



May Allah send Salah and Salam on the Prophet (saw), his household, his companions and those who follow them.



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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 8th August 2014 10:48
Allamah Sa’eed Ahmad Qadri states in his book Ahle Sunna wa Ahle Bid’a Ki Pehchaan:

“Mawlana Ahmad Raza Khan has documented in his Fatawaa Razviah:

‘One maintaining the doctrine of trinity is not a polytheist (mushrik)”. (Fatawaa Razviah,vol 1, pg 738)

The above mentioned fatwa is against the following verse:

لقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَالُوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ ثَالِثُ ثَلَاثَةٍ

“Surely, disbelievers are those who said: Allah is the third of the three”

The above is taken from a partial answer here www.askimam.org/public/question_detail/16281
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 8th August 2014 11:52

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Not sure about the Volume/Page given for reference because that part of Volume 1 shows Hazrat (Maulana) Saheb (HA)'s fixation with women and sexual parts...Nothing about Aqeedah in that secttion (unless I have missed)...

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 8th August 2014 11:58
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Jazakallah, the source has been given and they could have easily erred or copy and pasted from elswhere, just like how Shaykh Salih may have done. Allahu Alum.

If you have double checked and are certain, it would be great if you could alert Askimam with the evidence.
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 8th August 2014 19:13

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I am unable to find the quotation around the page numbers listed, it is probably there but in some other Volume/Chapter...

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 8th August 2014 19:23
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InshaAllah, I'll try and make contact with askimam to clarify with possibly a scanned reply.

Edit: Query sent asking to clarify. Copy of email sent to you too.
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