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#121 [Permalink] Posted on 13th September 2014 03:01

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#122 [Permalink] Posted on 13th September 2014 06:42

In such issues, I consult ulama and what they say I post here.

I don't know if Islam has different forms- the one which is applied in a remote town in India isnt applicable in a big city of a western country.

Problem is that we don't want to change ourselves, rather we wish to change Islam according to our life style.

Islam is one and it can be denied by none.

I know the ulama who speak from the pulpit in the masjid, their own daughters or sisters go to co-ed schools/colleges. Even my own family members go to market for shopping in hijab.
It's our lacking in iman that we don't follow Islam 100%.
What we do is different from what Islam says.

Practically western Muslims are better than us because your following Islam in such an ambience which isnt conducive to Islam.

Whereas in our area even salafis who emphasise on women's praying in masjid don't allow their own women to visit masjid for praying.

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#123 [Permalink] Posted on 13th September 2014 07:06

8868: It is better for a woman to pray in her house than in the mosque

What is the ruling on sisters making salah in public?.

Praise be to Allaah.

Woman should be protected and concealed from men as much as her guardian can do that. The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) preferred for women to pray in their houses and said that their reward for doing so is greater than their reward for praying in the mosque.

It was narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “A woman’s prayer in her room is better than her prayer in her courtyard, and her prayer in her cabinet is better than her prayer in her room.” (Narrated by Abu Dawood, 570; al-Tirmidhi, 1173.

This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani inSaheeh al-Targheeb wa’l-Tarheeb, 1/136).
“Her room” refers to a woman’s own room in the house, and “her courtyard” refers to the central area (in a traditional Arabic house), off which all the rooms of the house open.
A cabinet is like a small room inside the large room, in which personal items are stored.
(Commentary from‘Awn al-Ma’bood).

It was narrated that Umm Humayd the wife of Abu Humayd al-Saa’idi came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said, “O Messenger of Allaah, I like to pray with you.” He said, “I know that you like to pray with me, but your prayer in your room is better for you than your prayer in your courtyard and your prayer in your courtyard is better for you than your praying in your house, and your prayer in your house is better for you than your prayer in the mosque of your people, and your prayer in the mosque of your people is better for you than your prayer in my mosque.” So she issued orders that a prayer-place be prepared for her in the furthest and darkest part of her house, and she used to pray there until she met Allaah (i.e., died).”
(Narrated by Ahmad, 26550).
This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by Ibn Khuzaymah in his Saheeh, 3/95; Ibn Maajah, 5/595; al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Targheeb wa’l-Tarheeb, 1/135

It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “If the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had lived to see how women have started to behave, he would have prevented them [from going to the mosque] as the women of the Children of Israel were prevented.” I said, to ‘Umrah, “Were they prevented?” He said, “Yes.”
(al-Bukhaari, 831; Muslim, 445)

‘Abd al-‘Azeem Abaadi said:
The reason why their praying in their homes is better is because it is safer from fitnah or temptation. This was later borne out by the way in which women began to make a wanton display of their adornments, hence ‘Aa’ishah said what she said. (‘Awn al-Ma’bood, 2/193).

Hence women should be careful when praying in public places, or go far away from where men can see them, and should not pray in a public place when the time of prayer comes, unless she has no other place in which to pray.

Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah al-Jibreen said:
With regard to women, their houses are better for them. If they need to pray in the marketplace and there is a place that is screened off, there is nothing wrong with them praying there, in sha Allah.
Fataawa al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, 1/333

But what some of the common people say, that a woman’s prayer is invalidated just because a man happens to see her, has no basis in sharee’ah at all. The women used to pray at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in one mosque and he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not rule their prayer to be invalid.

And Allaah knows best.

islamqa.info/en/8868

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#124 [Permalink] Posted on 13th September 2014 09:07

No one is denying that it is better for women to pray at home but that does automatically mean that all women should automatically be prevented from attending the masjid? Here is the response to that from the same site you quoted above : islamqa.info/en/983

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#125 [Permalink] Posted on 13th September 2014 16:48

Imam al-Kasani (Allah have mercy on him) states:

“It will not be permitted for young women to go to the Mosque for congregational prayers due to the fact that Sayyiduna Umar (Allah be pleased with him) prevented women from doing so. Moreover, women’s going to the Masjid is a cause of mischief (between men and women) and mischief (fitna) is Haram, and that which leads to something Haram will also be unlawful.” (Bada’i al-Sana’i, 1/157)

Who is Imam al-Kasani? Is he an authority?

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#126 [Permalink] Posted on 13th September 2014 20:04

Thread locked.

Going in circles.

It is well established by now that no one is arguing about prayers in masjid yet the quotes regarding that keep coming in.

It is also well established by now that there's a difference of opinion on attending talks depending on facilities. One is free to follow any scholar in this regard considering all the factors without debating the issue endlessly.

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