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#331 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 06:19
Jazakallah Muadh Khan and London for the appreciation and discussion. Like you guys I too have been breaking my head over these issues that have crippled us Muslims for so long. Since you have been a witness to the fact that I do have a rather wide over view of the problems I suppose in your presence I can take the liberty of jumping suddenly from one topicto another. That is what I'll do right now.

For last two days I was in and out of a two day conclave in our university.
Here is a news report on it.
As you can see that it was about intellectual crisis of Ummah and about rethinking of traditional solutions.
I am thoroughly exhausted, mentally and physically.
Here is my report.
Obviously this is meant only for my brothers and sisters here and at large.
(I suppose SF culture is dissolved in MS culture by now.)

I do not think there is any intellectual crisis in Ummah today.
No, not at all.
We as an Ummah are overly constrained by non-Islamic forces and that is certainly a crisis.
But not an intellectual one.
In past Ummah might have faced an intellectual crisis or more than one crises.
After Imam Ghazali (RA), Lord Most High willing, we shall never face an intellectual crisis.
Of course some groups of Muslims might still face intellectual crisis.
That is very natural.

And the group that organized the conference mentioned indeed is passing through a crisis on intellectual nature.

For the Ummah as a whole there is certainly encroachment upon its social,cultural, economic, business, finance, political and military spaces but these do not constitute as a whole an intellectual crisis. For example there is no confusion at all that we got to snatch our spaces back. Only if we could get the love of this world and fear of death out of our hearts.

We do fear death more than we fear hell. We do love this world pathetically.
And this is certainly a crisis but not intellectual.
It is spiritual.

The conclave was organized very professionally and at a grandish level by professor rashid Shaz who comes from Jama-at-e-Islami background and the crowd belonged to that denomination. They were quite worried but factional divisions in Ummah but did not bother to call people from other denominations. The lone exception was Maulana Muhammed Miyan Qasmi from Sambhal in western UP. Maulana was given three minutes to speak and he just the dias at the first cue. And that is when the surprising thing happened. People wanted maulana to continue. And he did continue. Why? Because he clarified so many issues in his five six minutes that were exercising the minds of these people all the time. Now that is what an Ahl-ul-Haq is all about.

Of course I got bored to death but my Barelwi colleague from political science department would not allow me to leave. He too wanted some desperate company in the Jama-at-e-Islami environment. Anyway a few hours on the first day and and a few hours on the second day were enough to make me snap.

Dr Kamal Al-Halbawy (the man who declined to be the president of Egypt) was delivering his address and asked the audience that it is not strange that the Ummah that has the nobel Qur'an is not the one who should be the leader in intellectual persuit, particularly science and technology and hence in all fienlds?

He was persistent that audience given an answer. And the audience reacted the way it reacts to a gian hapmmering it down.
they simply went numb while a few people murmerd meek yeses. I too gave my answer.
"Slightly," I said in moderate voice but repeated the same loudly when he did not hear it, he is 76 years old.
And this snapped him. "Alright the, Assalamaualaikum," he said and prented to leave but did not do so.
Everyone was stunned.

After that session I went to congratulate Shaikh Muhammed Al-Ghazali, Chief Justice of Shariah Appelate Court of Pakistan for his wonderful address on the first day. He was massively under sieze by the young boys and girls and they will not leave him for anyone else. After waiting for few minutes I said my words of appreciation.

"I did not deliver my lecture to get your thanks", he said.

Uhh? What was that?
But soon it became clear. He was upset with my 'slightly' slight.
This was my turn to be irritated for he showed very discernable signs of taking pity on my intellect.
I told him I am differing with you.
And that too was stunning.
A long discussion ensued and he kept having pity on my abilities while I tried to impress upon him that their overall view is clouded because they are not aware of some micro issues. I told him that though west dominates us today owing to their scientific and technological might but we had already done the essential foundational work for science in the form of contributing the scientific method and the action principle by Ibn Haitham. that is why this year is being celebrated as international Year of Light to honour him.

I thought I have bothered him enough so I wanted to take leave but he caught hold of my hand. Though profoundly disagreeing, and he said so explicitly, he was engaged in the discussion. It was good for me.

Seeing the general agitation of the people I realized that I had touched an extremely raw nerve.
Jama-at-e-Islami takes an intellectual approach to problems and they felt threatened by my trivialization of intellectual issue.
Well so be it. They got to face the truth.
But i did also feel bad about hurting them. So when Dr Kamal Halbawy was leaving for his guest house after the lunch I peeped into his car and said, hey Shaikh, you know what this is a significant crisis?
Shaikh was agast and looking at my face in disbelief. "So you agree?" he asked.
"O yes", I said.
And he was very happy. A big burden was removed from my heart.

Moments later I again bumped into Justice Al-Ghazali. He is a kind man by disposition. "I think we do not have that much of a difference of opinion", he said.
I also agreed.
I was leaving for my class so it was very pleasant to hear this.

And this was strange.
I openely declared a difference of opinion with him.
He openly declared a difference of opinion with him.

And he then admitted that we do not have a difference of opinion.
And I too agreed.

Alhamdulillah.

But something else was left for later.
I have to do enough dhikr to wash away the suffocating effects of an ieology that is alien to us.
Later after lunch he said that may be we do not have that much of difference of opinion.
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#332 [Permalink] Posted on 8th April 2015 11:14

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7th of May 2015 will be elections in UK. Last week we had a TV debate of all party leaders including UKIP's Nigel Farage. There have been many discussions and analysis post debate but Gary Lineker (Footballer) summed up the mood of the Nation in 1 tweet.

  1. Kindly send women/children out of the room
  2. Google "Gary Lineker just summed up the nation's feelings about Nigel Farage's HIV comments"

 

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#333 [Permalink] Posted on 10th April 2015 05:52
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Nigel Farage said about HIV that 'sensible Christian thing' is to put British patients first.
Earlier he said that Britain should have quality immigrants and not HIV infected ones.

I suppose these are the points that exercised people's emotions.

These are real life issues. Nothing to do with terror and war on terror.

So I hope Islam and Muslims will get less unwanted attention.
And hence will be free to sort out their own affairs.

It is good if American attention is diverted to real American, that is, their internal problems.
It is good if British attention is diverted to real British, that is, their internal problems.

Islam and Muslims can do with less attentions from good samaritans - American and British.

Of course Muslims are affected if the British take a biased or racial approach to their problems.
And Ummah can not be silent spectator.
The west created by force a country out of East Timor.
Because the population was Christian.
Same is true about South Sudan.
So the west does operate on Christian basis.
That can not be ignored and that should not be ignored.

And the Muslims in these lands have to keep up their struggle for not only equal rights but equity too.
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#334 [Permalink] Posted on 11th April 2015 08:08
Destruction of Hyderabad


Hyderabad was the largest of the principalities of India, a state as extensive as some nations with its own coinage, postal system and railways. The rulers were feudal overlords with the title Nizam who to their credit had promoted scholarship and the arts, and libraries of world renown.

The tragedy of this beautiful and elegant land, the essence of princely India, was that the Nizam of Hyderabad was Muslim but only 11 percent of his people were, causing a problem when India was partitioned along religious lines. The Nizam wanted independence in 1947, but such a future for his land-locked state was not a realistic possibility; accession to Pakistan or India was inevitable.

AG Noorani, a senior lawyer and a scholar, accuses Sir Walter Monckton who was the Nizam's constitutional advisor of encouraging the Nizam to chase the mirage of an outlet to the sea. This would allow the state to become viable, but India was never going to give such passage. Monckton does not deserve castigation; his behaviour has to be seen in the light of courtly practice: the top man declared his intention and his advisers had to tell him how it could be done.

What ensued was a tragedy in which the Nizam did nothing. Muslim volunteers, called "Razakars" were left free to terrorise the population and give an opportunity for the Indian Minister for the States, Vallabhbhai Patel, to order an invasion. He said Hyderabad was an "ulcer" that "continues to spread poison to the rest of India". Noorani sees the heart of the tragedy of Hyderabad as a conflict between Indian prime minister Nehru, who was an Indian nationalist, and Patel who was a Hindu nationalist.

Operation Polo was launched in September 1948 with the Indian army invading from five sides with air force bombing raids in what was disingenuously called a "police action".

This book publishes as an appendix the Sunderlal Mission report on the massacre of up to 40,000 Muslims in Hyderabad following the invasion. The report has been suppressed for more than half a century and describes atrocities including rape, the abduction of women, looting, the desecration of mosques and forcible seizure of property. It was the final act that brought Muslim rule over a Hindu majority to an end, the last show for the Mogul empire, told here in detail from diplomatic and journalistic sources and witness testimony.

This closely argued telling of a grisly episode is a valuable addition to the story of partition – and another blow to the belief that the independence of the sub-continent was achieved by non-violent means.

Source : The Independent
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#335 [Permalink] Posted on 16th April 2015 09:47
Israeli Nuclear Programme


Israeli scored spectacular victories over numerous parties of Arabs in 1967 nand 1973.
These victories were master strokes from every point of view relevant for warfare.
One of the aspects is intelligence.
Israel is notorious in that field.
Even their long standing crutch, the US, was never safe from their designs.

How did Israel fool the US about its nuclear programme?
Read here.

Is US a self-respecting nation?
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#336 [Permalink] Posted on 17th April 2015 06:17
This is the death for which even the Prophet saw supplicated


Hilal Mushtaq

By walking in steps with the Companions (RA)
We have got the solace of our hearts
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#337 [Permalink] Posted on 17th April 2015 11:41

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Who do Muslims in India write Mohammad as Mohd. or Md.?

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#338 [Permalink] Posted on 17th April 2015 14:45
السلام عليكم

@ Bhai Maripat sahab - Bhai Ahmed Sharif sahab tweeted this..

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#339 [Permalink] Posted on 17th April 2015 17:26
Has this thread lost its purpose?
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#340 [Permalink] Posted on 18th April 2015 08:12
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I suppose there is no particular reason but the habit is certainly obnoxious.
One of my teachers, a Barelwi, would usually be furious at those people who will use the abbreviation Mohd.
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Nothing heartwarming.
Some sweepers wanted to protect their houses and eight people got photographed with skull caps.
That is all. The locality has only fifty houses and not 800.
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No Maulana. I just reached a point where I can discern my purpose more specifically along the directio: "And We have not created man and djinn but to worship ".

Muslims have to work towards reclaiming their social, cultural, scientific, technological, industrial, economic, financial, political and military space in the scheme of world communities. Lesser G!h@d is only one aspect of life that seems to be dominating the world stage. Other department, mentioned in the last sentence, too need very serious attention. That is what I have been trying to figure out. Just because it is a lonely pursuit does not diminish its importance.

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#341 [Permalink] Posted on 18th April 2015 18:38
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I feel the posts are very good and important, but personally I think the benefits get lost as different topics are mentioned and buried away. A similar thing happened with the Random thread. Great thread then lost its direction. Hope important posts don't get lost here too. I think such posts should be started as new dedicated threads so they can be found easily and even discussed if needed.
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#342 [Permalink] Posted on 19th April 2015 04:28
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My combined time at my blogs, SF and MS has been an excruciating journey.
And part of that journey I am still covering at Facebook.
I am thankful to those handful brothers and sisters who have shared the pain with me.
In reality our task, mine and yours, has been an onerous one.

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onerous
ˈəʊn(ə)rəs,ˈɒn-/
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adjective: onerous

(of a task or responsibility) involving a great deal of effort, trouble, or difficulty.

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In fact these are the things that everyone does not have to do.
It is a Fard-e-Kafaya. It is sufficient if some people discharge it.

I am thankful to Allah (SWT) that He took me through the alleys of mental process.

But this was only part of the journey.

And I have already summarised the conclusions many times but I shall keep repeating them.
Intentionally.

We got to wrest back our social, cultural, scientific, technological, industrial, business, economic, financial, military and political space from others who have encroached upon it.

On the face of it this conclusion seems obvious.
Indeed it is.
But that should not deceive us and we must not conclude that it was an easy path to reach at this conclusion.
As I said the path was excruciating.

Everytime I breached these matters with my friends of Tasawwuf circle they were horrified.
And now that I have reached above conclusion they are more horrified.
Shouldn't I have worked to get a khilafa - they would ask if prodded.
Of course I respectfully disagree.
As a narration of blessing, Tahdees-e-niamat, I say that I know about Tasawwuf as much as is known.
Much more than I need in life.

Of course one does not have to be a Sufi to analyse the things that I have been analysing.

But I supplicate to Allah SWT that He accepts this effort.

To complete this diversion I got to put on record that my Tasawwuf friends are of the opinion that I am in great spiritual danger because of my indulgence in these matters.

Of course they are wrong and ignorant.

We know from the example of the destruction of a settlement with a pious person because he did not worry about the people in his locality.

And we do not know of destruction of any community where people were worrying about each other.
Indeed beloved Prophet (PBUH) was overwhelmed when he saw the worn out hands of a Companion (RA) doing agricultural work - worldly work.

How ignorant are our Tasawwuf friends about the importance of worldly work.

It is my faith that worldly work will bring better rewards in the hereafter than withdrawl from the world and reaching loftu heights in Sufism. And I have already said that I know all these heights. these are respectable and honourable and desirable but I am also convinced that discharging worldly Fard-e-Kafaya is preferable.

That is what I am doing.
Even if it is at the level of intellectual cud-chewing.

So brother Abu Muhammed Jazakallah for your kind words and feedback.
It is very reassuring for me that some of my brothers and sisters were aware of my musings, nay, painful ponderings.

Finally about the random thread like meandering nature of the present thread.

This was of necessity.
When I say social, cultural, scientific, technological, industrial, business, economic, financial, military and political space of Muslim Ummah then I am talking of nearly everything under the sun.
That is broad band nature of this thread.
I have left out only theological and spiritual mattters.

I left the spiritual matters because of above reasons as well as because of the fact that I have two blogs dedicated to them already.

Theological matters are most boring, unprodcutive, nay, destructive and dishonest.
Islam was complete 14.5 centuries ago.
My most sincere suggestion about those matters is that just request a Fatwah from Deoband, and Deoband is all over the world now including the net, and just implent what ever they say blindly.

Common people trying to be Alim on the net are in wrong lane and the young Ulama indulging in theological hair splitting on the net are dangerous. They are not protectors of our faith but destroyers.

And if above things are too difficult for some people then the simple truth is that these were never meant for them. Just think of me as the
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#343 [Permalink] Posted on 21st April 2015 06:46
Silence of Fora


In the earliest phase of internet there used to be discussion lists.

Soon blogs and discussion fora came up and there was furious activity on both of them.

By now these are more or less silent.

Our own SF is nearly dead.
For last few days Islamic Awakening has disappeared from the net.

There is furious activity on twitter and Facebook.
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#344 [Permalink] Posted on 21st April 2015 07:56
Hundred Years of Solitude


Here is an article on academics.
That is my field, academics.
Of course not my specialization, that is Physics.

I suppose it is also relevant for our Ummah.

With how many people I can talk about it?
Not many.

People will be interested in talking about latest Samsung products in Galaxy range.
They even will talk on and on Fatawa.
But not on these issues.

And then they will be confused as to what is wrong with the Ummah.

Shaikh ko qaum ki badi fikr hai, magar aaraam ke saath.

Respected sir worries a lot about Ummah, but with leisure.
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#345 [Permalink] Posted on 21st April 2015 16:33
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Theological matters are most boring, unprodcutive, nay, destructive and dishonest.
Islam was complete 14.5 centuries ago.
My most sincere suggestion about those matters is that just request a Fatwah from Deoband, and Deoband is all over the world now including the net, and just implent what ever they say blindly.

Common people trying to be Alim on the net are in wrong lane and the young Ulama indulging in theological hair splitting on the net are dangerous. They are not protectors of our faith but destroyers.


Golden Words Masha Allah..
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