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#241 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2015 03:22
Cleary Mr Sareshwala is not an inspiration.
And the fact that he has been given an assignment by the ruling party does not make much difference to us.
Even in rest of the last 67 years there have been token assignments to Muslims.
Indeed M. Hamid Ansari is the Vice President of India. Think of a left of the center Muslim amongst RSS crowd.
Must be suffocating.
What kind of honour and power, if any, is that?
Of course Mr Sareshwala will be willing to do the BJP bidding.
He is only in the genre of Sikander Bakht, Shahnawaz Hussain and Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi.
And so what if MJ Akbar and Shazia Ilmi have joined the ranks of most communal forces India has ever seen?
Allah (SWT) can not be with them.
If they still are shining then it is simply Istidraj - extention from Allah (SWT).
Extention of their rope.

But we should not forget our duties too.
Unity amongst Indian Muslims is a sine qua non - it has no substitute.
They got to get united to reclaim their religious, social, cultural, economic and other spaces.
And this last line is the line of action.
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#242 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2015 10:26
Disservice to Humanity


We Muslims have been writing about beloved Prophet (PBUH) for fifteen centuries.
We notice many things in this connection.
For example writings of this century are quite different from the writings of the last century.
Priorities, social environment and demands of every century are different from another century.
And beloved Prophet has been appreciated in every century.
And the appreciation in any century is different from another century.
Clearly every century we discover new aspects of his personality.
And no one can say that we have exhausted aspects of his personality or we have a final word on it.

But then there is one nagging point also.
West in last four centuries of their development have either blocked all appreciation of our Prophet (PBUH) or has spread lies.
This is a disservice to humanity.
They have deprived humanity of Prophetic wisdom.
Surely they have incorporated many good things from his life or the life of his followers but their acknowledgement is not entirely thorough or honest.

More work has to be done to put the things in perspective.
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#243 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2015 10:54
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Assalaamu 'alaykum warahmatullah Brother Maripat
I wonder if you have ideas/plans on how this is to be done?
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#244 [Permalink] Posted on 20th January 2015 05:34
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Thanks for asking sister.
I have been working on these kind of things and first these have to be sorted out in our own head.
This is what I have been doing here and earlier at SF.
And then comes the problem of looking west in the eyes and tell them the truth in person.
The action plan.
I suppose the hashtag trend #WhoIsMuhammad has shown us that this can be done.
That is the direction to be taken.
Perhaps most useful ideas are simple. In the present case we got keep talking to whoever listens about our beloved Prophet (PBUH).
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#245 [Permalink] Posted on 20th January 2015 09:31
Mufti Asad Qasim Sambhali


He has written a book on Imam Mehdi (AS) in Urdu.

In the introduction he tells this incident about an Istifta (Query Seeking Fatwa) when he was an apprentice at Darul Ifta of darul Uloom, Deoband. There a man from Jhansi in Uttar Pradesh who claimed to be the Mehdi. Rather than writing a Fatwa Mufti Sahab tried to persuade him to give up such silly notions. "But the man was not ready to abdicate his Mehdiship", wrote Mufti Sahab.

Mufti Asad Sahab frequently comes to the Majalis of my Shaikh from Muradabad where he is taking care of a Madarsa right in the heart of Barelwi community.

While reading his book this sinner stumbled on the famous Hadith regarding black flags ensuing from Khurasan. The way he quoted it left me wondering. In his version it was written that no one will fought against you like these black flag bearers will fight.

My impression was that these people bearing black flags will fight for us and not against us.

The matter is still not clear to me. I have phoned Mufti Sahab but no answer yet.

If any brother or sister is clear about the issue then kindly chip in.
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#246 [Permalink] Posted on 27th January 2015 04:21
Obama in India


(1) When RSS inspired BJP came as the largest party in May 16, 2014 election results everyone concerned on the globe had a rude awakening.

(2) US was one of those who were shaken from their slumber. For some time there was not much reaction from there. But when they came out in the open the whole world knew that they have done a complete reorganization of their foreign policy regarding blatant chauvinistic nature of the political dispensation that had won Indian elections.

(3) There were liberal democratic values of the US and there were their interests. India being a democracy it had no conflict with democratic values. It is the liberal part that took a beating. US in its delayed reaction did eschew those liberal values while accomodating the new ruling face of India.

(4) And at the moment we have the US President of the day, Barak H. Obama, in India. He is having a good time. So are his hosts - not the whole country but the Hindutva brigade and its cronies.

(5) Even the President of India, Dr Pranav Mukherji, hosted the US President thrice in the Indian Presidential House called the Rashtrapati Bhawan. Prime Minister of India, Narendra Modi, has been acting at the level of personal friendship with the US President ( every concerned person must ignore the silly thing that the former has been wearing his name tag all day).

(6) A cruide modification in the nuclear deal with US has been achieved - just to tout the success of the new found bon homie.

(7) Earlier US balancing between India and Pakistan has completely disappeared.

(8) In view of the trouble that US has been precipitating for Muslim world this new posture of the only superpower on the earth is not that surprising or difficult. That US and India are natural allies has been in the air for quite some by now.

(9) Is there a loser in this game? Yes - the Muslims of India. Of course the liberal majority of India, after all BJP vote share was merely thirty one percent, is also the loser but unfortunately vagaries of democracy did thoroughly neutralize that precious part of Indian polity.

(10) What should Muslims of India and the world should expect from this friendship of the US and the RSS driven ruling configuration in India? This is a good question for only then they can prepare to deal with the reality that is sure to have very serious connotations for them.

(11) Places like MS or erstwhile SF were the only one that this sinner could even talk about these issues. Places like IA or the GM crowd in general, including Jama-at-e-Islami and such parties, Ahl-e-Hadith and Salafies of various shades are all more united against Deoband than against the detractors of Islam. Barelwis have only one agenda and that is to oppose Deoband. Shias do oppose the detractors of Islam but their animosity towards Sunni Islam is no less virulent. Finally our own religious establishment is absolutely terrified of talking about politics - let alone solving the real world problems.

(12) Verily we are for our Lord and unto Him is our return.
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#247 [Permalink] Posted on 27th January 2015 10:01
السلام عليكم

Why should Hamid Ansari prove his patriotism?


The vice president followed the correct protocol by not saluting the national flag.


By Aditya Menon.


It seems that no matter how many times a Muslim swears his allegiance to the Indian nation, no matter how successful he becomes in the country, there will always be doubts over his patriotism. Even if you are the vice-president of India, if you are a Muslim, you still have to prove your love for the country.

This morning when most Indians were watching the Republic Day parade with pride, some self-proclaimed defenders of the nation decided to use their off-day criticising vice president Hamid Ansari. Pictures were posted on Twitter and Facebook showing that Ansari did not salute the national flag during the national anthem. "Jihadi sympathiser", "anti-India", "traitor", these were some of the names that the vice president of India was hurled at on the country's 66th Republic Day.

Many tweeted demanding that Ansari be impeached, the more moderate ones wanted him to resign, the more outraged ones advised him to join the ISIS.

Now, the more immediate question here is what is the protocol? According to Section VI of the Flag Code of India, which deals with the protocols for saluting the flag, "During the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag, or when the flag is passing in a parade or in a review, all persons present should face the Flag and stand at attention. Those present in uniform should render the appropriate salute".

Prime Minister Narendra Modi, President Pranab Mukherjee, vice president Ansari, US President Barack Obama, defence minister Manohar Parrikar were not in uniform and were therefore not required to salute the flag. President Mukherjee, Modi and Parrikar actually made a mistake by saluting the flag, Ansari did the right thing.

But who cares about protocol when you are performing the great duty of defending the nation? If Ansari didn't salute the flag, it has to be because he is following some subversive anti-national injunction in the Sharia. Of course home minister Rajnath Singh and external affairs minister Sushma Swaraj also didn't salute the flag, but then being non-Muslims, their patriotism is beyond question.

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#248 [Permalink] Posted on 28th January 2015 04:51
It is clear that a big country can not digest even a single Muslim at a higher post - even if the post is very symbolic.
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#249 [Permalink] Posted on 4th February 2015 05:31
Two Developments


Two noticeable developments took place in last week or so.

US changed its stance on Taliban.
This is a very significant development and due advantage should be taken of it.
Basically now it is possible to demand the basic rights as Muslims - to recover our social, cultural and political space that has been severly encroached upon by the west.

The second development is the live burning in cage by ISIS of the Jordanian pilot they had in custody.
This is simply unthinkable. This is neither Islamic action nor Muslim.
Words fail in communicating the outrage they have created.
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#250 [Permalink] Posted on 4th February 2015 07:23
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David Cameron, UK prime minister, called the murder "sickening", while Ban Ki-moon, UN secretary-general, labelled it an "appalling act".

Shinzo Abe, Japan's prime minister, condemned Kassasbeh's burning as "unforgivable".


We, Muslims consider it more sickening, appalling act and unforgivable than they think because our benchmark is Shari'ah that came from Allaah سبحانه وتعالى and His Messenger (saw).

However, I wonder why does their base of judgement which is, according to them, is flawless and just, not include burning down of innocent Muslims in Burma and Palestine as sickening, appalling act and unforgivable?
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#251 [Permalink] Posted on 4th February 2015 08:43
That is a good question ya akhi.
And Muslims have been asking these questions for some time.
We have mostly been focusing on Palestine.
And the fact that US changed their policy towards Taliban has something to do with the fact that they can not take Muslims for granted anymore.

But now I have few more questions.
What should we Muslims demand now, say in Burma or even India?
Who should speak for Muslims.
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#252 [Permalink] Posted on 4th February 2015 16:31

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Maripat Saheb,

  1. It apepars that the Modi wave is being stopped at the gates of Delhi by Kejriwal, your thoughts on the matter?
  2. Why didn't Owaisi Brothers try to fight the elections at Delhi, has there been a backdoor deal between them & AAP?

 

 

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#253 [Permalink] Posted on 5th February 2015 07:02
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Modi Wave
Yeah, it seems that it is a check mate for Modi wave.
All praise is due to Allah (SWT) for that.
RSS inspired ideology got only 31 percent of the votes in last general elections but everybody assumed that it was the dawn of Hindu Rashtra. This was sad because sixty nine percent people who did either not vote for BJP or voted against them is more than thirty one percent.

But slowly Indian public is waking upto the ground reality. And AAP is doing the needful in Delhi.

It is strange that the rest of India is not taking note of the situation.
I mean the other political parties.
They seem to be taking Modi arrival as a fait accompli - the done thing.
That is sad, silly and unfortunate.

Congress is the inheritor of the mettle of the freedom movement.
They should not meekly surrender to the fascist forces of Hindu chauvinism.
Sonia Gandhi revived the Congress after it got nearly decimated post Rajiv Gandhi.
But it is clear that she can not maintain it at the moment.
As the successors of the freedom movement they have a very significant standing in the scheme of things in India and in my view they should always remain the most important players.
But an Italian born woman is unlikely to operate on that wavelength where you act like the successor of freedom movement.
That is why I keep harping on Priyanka Gandhi. Even if she is young.
Sonia Gandhi's son is not the most bright kid on the block.
He can and will be part of the game but not the leader.
If they, I mean the Congress, please.

And I am an interested party. Being a Muslim I have the interests of twenty to twenty five crore Muslims of India on my mind. And hence anyone harping against the family culture in Congress is unlikely to cut any ice with me. If Congress acts like a family firm then so be it. It does not bother me as long as the interests of my fellow Muslims of India are taken care of. I am not in this world to take stand on the rightness or wrongness of non-Islamic theories and ideologies.

Now apart from Congress there were a few more major political players who were check mated by Hindutva forces in last general elections in India. BSP, Bahujan Samaj Party ( Diverse People's Party) of Mayawati was one. She leads the traditionally untouchable masses of India. Her vote bank has not gone anywhere but even she is not been able to come out of the last debacle. Now that is strange. If she could come to power a few times earlier by a meager vote bank then why can't BJP? Strange indeed.

Obviously the way out is that the non-RSS big players should design their game in such a way so as to neutralize the machinations of RSS and cohorts. And that is possible because the numerical majority is with them. The trouble is that Congress, BSP, socialist and left idiots think that they will play their cards separately and BJP will remain out of power by some miracle. That is sheer stupidity. That have seen it for themselves. And now they have seen it they are not getting the obvious. The most obvious thing would be to co-operate with each other in managing the natuional votes so as to keep BJP out. But every single of the defeated idiots is thinking that there is no hope for future. As a result many politicians are leaking towards BJP from other parties. It is strange where micro considerations influence the macro dynamics completely.

What is true of Congress and BSP the same is true for the socialist parties like SP, the Samajwadi Party (Socialist Party) and the left.

My suggestion to all of them will be the same. Join each other to isolate BJP at the ballot.

Majlis-e-Ittihad-ul-Muslimeen MIM or All India MIM, AIMIM

Asaduddin Owaisi withdrew from Delhi.
From the practical point of view I will not mind making an agreement even with BJP if the interests of Muslims are taken care of. I am not wed to Congress, BSP, the socialist parties of various hues and the left. My interests lie with Muslims. At the moment Asaduddin Owaisi is amongst the rare breed of politicians who has the guts to take and act like a Muslim with no apologies. Of course Mualana Badruddin Ajmal is another one but latter does not carry that kind of elan that former does. Let me tell you if Maulana Badruddin Ajmal starts talking in a confident tone then Indian politics will change for ever. Two lions, Owaisi and Ajmal, will be too much for India as a whole.

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#254 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2015 13:46
Mr Owaisi's party is coming in U.P. in 2017 assembly elections but his stringent stance in politics may exacerbate the situation of Muslims concerning self-depending in this arena. My hunch is that it'll only unite all Hindus under the banner of BJP paving the way for changing India into a non-secular state.

I think if we give the support to AAP which's clean image so far may be a good platform for us instead of running after the socalled secular parties. But the political stability of AAP utterly depends on Delhi elections.

Molvi Ajmal sb has the tag of deoband so I don't think that other groups of Muslims, especially barelvis, will support him.
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#255 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2015 16:08
A very hard hitting thread and the sooner us Muslims come to reality and start looking beyond our secular labels and leave our differences the better. Alhumdulilah I have started seeing 'some of this' in other places etc

However this comes to mind whilst reading this thread, I won't expound on it so make whatever you want from it

What harms Islam the most is when the ignorant stands to defend it, while the scholar is absent from its leadership.

Abdul-ʿAziz al-Tarifi

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