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#1711 [Permalink] Posted on 6th April 2014 11:39

Jazakallahu khair.

I understand as a Muslim we should keep names with good meaning.


It seems like superstition cos my friend had name ''Jannant'' but her mum, grandma etc. change that name believing that this name can have a bad effect on her behavior, health etc. They thought that this is name has a very heavy effect. I don't understand how it can be so.


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But sadly today people have beautiful names but hideous characters/characteristics. Sometimes I wonder if their name has ever had an effect on them or perhaps their sins ruin everything ?


Exactly.

so good names can't have good effect on personality either?
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#1712 [Permalink] Posted on 6th April 2014 11:39
And yes Tarbiah is indeed indeed necessary,
I have seen some with the name Ayesha whose tarbiah wasnt done the right way and the outcome was also acording to it.Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilaihi Rajioon.

And know an Ayesha , Masha Allah, may Allah bless her.
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#1713 [Permalink] Posted on 6th April 2014 11:43
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It's so simple.

Son's name- Rocky/John/Paul...........etc means his parents are confused about Islam.

Son's name- 'Umar/Usman/Huzaifah/'Abdullaah.............etc means parents are educated about Islam.
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#1714 [Permalink] Posted on 6th April 2014 11:47
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A names effect doesn't always come into play, why I don't know to be honest. Would be interesting if someone knows ?

Like I said above some have beautiful names but horrible characters/traits, people even despise the name because so and so individual is named it.

Generally speaking from what I've heard is people who are named Yusuf are generally handsome.

Walahu'Alam
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#1715 [Permalink] Posted on 6th April 2014 11:50
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السلام عليكم

Yes but not all of them will turn out to be like Umar, Usman, Abdullah, Huzaifah etc

Why is that akhi ?

In fact some will have such terrible nasty personalities others will be put off from giving their children such names. I've seen this happen.
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#1716 [Permalink] Posted on 6th April 2014 12:01
Mostly in pakistan people dont pronounce the names with the corect pronunciation..
They call umar , Omar ( with Alif) (yes i know in english we can write both)
And same in ayesha,
The ha in hanzala is the other one (i.e ha in Allah)
And many many other mispronunciatns
May Allah give Hidayah..
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#1717 [Permalink] Posted on 6th April 2014 12:05
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But I've found a trend among today's parents. They generally search for uncommon, decent yet Islamic names. For example, Salman, Sa'ad, Zubayr instead of Abu Bakr, Usman, 'Ali because latter names are backward. A relative of mine named his son Yusha. I am not sure whether parents knew that it was a name of a Nabi 'alayhis salaam. This name sounded good- that was the main reason to choose.
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#1718 [Permalink] Posted on 6th April 2014 12:06
People here now want some unique name for their child, and due to that they name their child with a name that has no meaning or has an indecent meaning..

Someone named their child.. donkey ( when they were told this means donkey , they said.. we read it in the Quraan)

Someone has named their child whch means ( according to how its proniunced in pakistanis) a stupid

Another named Olaika..

EDIT:Didnt see the above reply..
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#1719 [Permalink] Posted on 6th April 2014 13:42
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#1720 [Permalink] Posted on 6th April 2014 15:46
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السلام عليكم

In that thread you mentioned

"The incident of Imam Abu Hanifah and Imam Sha'bi comes to mind..."

Care to share this incident ?

Also how can words one say, listen, etc have an effect on one ?
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#1721 [Permalink] Posted on 6th April 2014 15:54
Is here anyone able to translate post # 10?
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#1722 [Permalink] Posted on 6th April 2014 18:34
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Abu Muhammad Harithi narrates that Imam Abu Hanifah رحمة الله عليه said: "I once passed by Imam Sha'bi رحمة الله عليه while he was seated. He summoned me and asked: "Who do you normally frequent?" I mentioned a certain person's name, whereupon he said: "I am not enquiring about who you visit in the market place. I want to know which Ulama you frequent?" I replied: "My visits to the Ulama are very limited." Imam Sha'bi رحمة الله عليه remarked: "Don't do this! Divert your attention towards Ilm and the company of the Ulama. I perceive signs of intelligence emanating from you." Imam Abu Hanifah رحمة الله عليه adds: "His advice had a profound effect on my heart. I thereafter discontinued going to the market place and commenced studying Ilm. Allah Ta'ala made his advise rather beneficial for me.

Taken from the book, Uqudul Jamman fi Manaqibil Imamil A'tham Abi Hanifata an-Nu'man by the Shafi'i Muhaddith, 'Allamah Shamsud-Din Muhammad Ibn Yusuf Salihi Dimashqi رحمة الله عليه.

Thereafter Imam Abu Hanifah رحمة الله عليه took Ilm from approximately 4000 (yep four thousand [!] as is mentioned in the same book) Ustadhs and became one of the greatest Mujtahid Mutlaqs of Islam. Now imagine all the rewards Imam Shabi رحمة الله عليه is getting!


Another beautiful example given by our dr76 on how words/names have effect on a person:

1) Example of Effect of Zikr...

I don't remember the source of the incident.. so im quoting from Bro Abu Aliya's post..( Mureed of Hazrat Shaikh Asif Hussain Farooqi sb db)

"My shaykh once stated, Shaykh Abul Hassan Khurqani rahmtullah alayhi was once talking about the virtues of making dhikr of the name of 'Allah'. In his majlis was Ibn Sina - the physician, who interupted the talk and questioned him by saying, "How can just by saying 'Allah, Allah' have an effect?"

Hadhrat Abul Hassan Khurqani rahmtullah alayhi said, "Silence! You Donkey!"

Ibn Sina's face became red, his nostrils flared with anger and he began to sweat profusely.

Hadhrat Abul Hassan Khurqani rahmtullah alayhi then said, "What's wrong? See for yourself, what the word 'donkey' has done to you. Just imagine the effects of the blessed word 'Allah' would do to you."

www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?91362-Masha-ikh-a...



إن من البيان لسحرا

Rasulullah (saw) said: Indeed some forms of speech are magical.

(Bukhari)

Certain speech is "magical" in the sense that it can be spellbinding and used to captivate the hearts of people (Mazad al-Raghibin 31), [A] whether this be for the sake of good or otherwise.

Taken from Mufti Abdur Rahman Ibn Yusuf's commentary of the Hadith book, Zadut Talibin

So, yep. Allah made names/words have effect...
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#1723 [Permalink] Posted on 6th April 2014 19:34
Such great posts, shame you guys fear starting a whole new topic on it.

Please try starting new threads so that they don't get buried away.

جزاك الله خيرا

By the way, names have an effect on the child and is proven by Hadith.
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#1724 [Permalink] Posted on 6th April 2014 19:59
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Blame Jinn. :-P He's the one who asked these questions...
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#1725 [Permalink] Posted on 6th April 2014 22:32
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Nice try akhii :p

Initially it was sister Maria who started it. I don't think she knew it would get interesting.

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