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#1516 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2014 16:22
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So why are there topics being discussed here?
Open a new thread if needed, some great stuff in here that deserve recognition. If someone stumbled across an article, can you imagine them finding the bits and pieces from here.

Keep it random please, otherwise it's totally off topic, if you know what I mean!
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#1517 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2014 16:37
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#1518 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2014 16:43

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I am on public record for saying this to both you and Sister Acacia. Here it is a lot clearer.

The Sufees of Britian will destroy your Eemaan, snatch your innocence, your dignity, your humanity and leave you mentally, psychologically and emotionally damaged goods! I know that both of you have no reason to believe me and you won’t because in your eyes I am some random guy on the Internet but the day you wake up, look yourself in the mirror and don’t recognise yourself because you have done backbiting, slander, scheming which you believed was not possible for you (to do under normal circumstances and you hate yourself for it) and you realise that you have been used by people whom you looked upto as shining examples of good Muslims, remember this post then fall into Sajdah (prostration) to Allah and make sincere dua for you to come out of the Gutter which these people would have taken you into!

  1. Come to Sunnah of Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam)
  2. Learn to distinguish your friends from your enemies

And I have no problems with you sending this message to anybody whom you want because its public, anyways.

What your cultural (understanding) or perceived notions think of as "Sunnah" or "Islam" or "way of Deobandees" may not be any of them but you won't come to that realisation easily.

Your brother in Islam.

P.S: Everyone else...sooner or later everyone will come to know what the intoxication of power does to people and when you challenge Authority of people they fight back with a vengence, that is precisely why Jews of Madina rejected Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) not because they didn't know that he was a Prophet but because their power and control over the lives of others would have ended!

This is a better forum then SF in the sense that there is NO SECRECY, NO SLANDER, NO BEHIND THE SCENE PLANNING everything is in the open. People don't chat on emails, WhatsApp or whatever and scheme things.

SF "apparently" had much better control on forum interaction but what it created is an underground Black Market of slander, I am not saying that it was deliberate (it wasn't) but those are the facts. Always take people's pathways to slander and backbiting away from them and let them bicker in public. They may argue, fight, bicker but eventually the damage won't be as severe as it would be if you push all the scheming underground!

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#1519 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2014 16:44
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Please post it in "Random quotes and images" thread.
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#1520 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2014 16:49
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Precisely, there's threads that exist so let's utilize them wisely or start a new one. No point posting something that will turn into a discussion. Jazakallah.
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#1521 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2014 16:50
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You got TOLD! Lol
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#1522 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2014 16:57
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This is a better forum then SF in the sense that there is (edit) NO BEHIND THE SCENE PLANNING everything is in the open. People don't chat on emails.


Except when authorizers need to discuss threads or posts, we do that in the Authorizer section so it's still in the open and no secrets. Sometimes we discuss topics, members etc to get a better understanding and to clear any misconceptions. Alhumdulillah, so far there aren't any misconceptions or misunderstandings. Each and everyone of us/you are all our brothers and sisters and we really do appreciate ALL of your work.

For those missing, May Allah make it easy for them and allow us to continue to learn from them and may Allah use them as a means to guide us all.
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#1523 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2014 17:01
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In a way brother muadh, In relation to the last para of your post, by surpressing and controlling people's outburst or behaviours via forum rules, regulations you don't get to see the real person, right? Giving more space gives a better understanding of a person and where they coming from, otherwise it's all face value, and people accept and follow blind foldedly.

Well that's how I related it to my experience of people through working on the forum, and I truly stick by the words....never judge a book by it's cover.
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#1524 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2014 17:07

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Aapa,

In my opinion you don't need to meet or communicate with a person directly. Allah (SWT) blesses people of Eemaan with Firasah and you can make judgement calls based on it. What you can't do is accuse and slander people based on Firasah but merely warn.

Insha'Allah, you be my witness on the day of judgement in front of Allah (SWT) that I have publicly and clearly warned these Sisters (and everyone else) of the looming dangers. When these Sisters end up flat on their faces they won't be able to say that nobody warned them.

 

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#1525 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2014 17:07
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That was to me, not black turban but I was too quick to reply I was trying to get a point made.

Jazakallah to brother Black Turban for acknowledging.
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#1526 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2014 17:12
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جزاك الله خيرا original post edited.
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#1527 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2014 17:21
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I remember in the early days, I was alway doubting myself, whether I was doing the right or the wrong thing, even if I knew the answer I needed reassurance.

Like you say I had to start trusting myself and instinct, as I was quite bluntly told to use the faculty of the intellect (aql) which Allah سبحانه وتعالى had most kindly granted us, Alhumdulillah. It felt like a hard stern blow at the time, but something that woke me up to reality.
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#1528 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2014 17:35

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Let me give you an example of how good people vs those with lack of knowledge deal with issues.

I used to know a brother who did Ruqya for Jinns etc and he was ill so I was taking him to a patient once. He said that a sincere physician is looking for the patient to be cured and have a normal life and not satisfay his ego trips so:

  1. If the local GP is able to treat the issues, Alhumdolillah
  2. If the Surgeon in the hospital is able to treat the issues, Alhumdolillah
  3. If the Psychiatrist is able to treat the issues, Alhumdolillah
  4. If the herbal practitioner is able to treat the issues, Alhumdolillah
  5. If the Hakeem is able to treat the issues, Alhumdolillah

A ego filled maniac will block all access of the patient to everyone else and say "My way or the highway". In fact the sign of an ego maniac is that they will get angry at you for using your brain OR seeking second opinions (without discussing or explaining the problem), just on principle because it goes against their ego that you second guessed their advice.

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#1529 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2014 17:39

One of the most fearsome Cricket Fast Bowlers Dennis Lillee had a stress fracture in the 1970's. Medical science of the day told him that he would never be able to bowl again and he had access to the best of science at that time.

He (himself) broke down components of his bowling action (the runup, stride, jump, follow through), figured out the damage to his body, modified his action and became successfull again.

Nothing fancy, just using brains!

There are many examples like this.

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#1530 [Permalink] Posted on 18th March 2014 01:10
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well, I've read your post thrice but I doubt if getting it right!

All what I know, when api Acacia first told me she will never post on MS, I didn't ask her whats the reason, instead I told her I didn't wanna dig into the matter, I did so cos I thought thats what she wanted me to do, and that she wouldn't feel comfortable if I asked her to disclose the matter ... At that time I got just this thought in my mind that something might have happened between api Acacia and authorizers; I got this thought cos during last days I noticed in sisters' section her post were kept under moderation.
when I forced her again and again to come on ms and black-mail her emotionally, she has told me that she doesn't feel comfortable on MS anymore and this is just how she feels. In response I told her I understand and respect her sentiments and decision, since I'm lucky I'm still in contact with her.

By Allah, Api Acacia never backbite about any MSers. Never at least with me; she doesn't backbite, this is how I know api Acacia is. That is the reason I dunno what's happened between api and MSers that she made the decision not to post here anymore! And when I say I don't know I simply means I don't know. This is the simple reason I don't understand what backbiting and slander etc. you're talking about. so, what's that?
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