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#406 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2022 16:50
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Your question doesn't make any sense.
I apologize for not wording my question clearly.
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What is the subject matter?
The subject matter refers to the contents of the email, viz, are vaccines halal, and are vaccines safe.
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And who is the expert?
Since the email relates to a medico-jurisprudence matter, I would like to know if a medical expert was part of the mashwarah group. Was a doctor in the relevant field consulted and shown the contents of the email?
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And what exactly requires expertise?
Whether the facts presented in the email are agreed upon by a medical expert.

I hope my question makes sense now.
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#407 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2022 17:06
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That's not what the email is about.

That's not the subject matter.

Again, what exactly requires an expert? Please quote from the email directly and don't make things up.
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#408 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2022 17:23
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That's not what the email is about.
Then, I must have erred in my reading of the email. Would you be kind enough to describe in one sentence what the email is about?
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#409 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2022 17:32
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#410 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2022 17:48
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Please read the email here
Re-read it just now. Thank you for the link.

I was told that the email was drafted by a shura of members. My question was simply this -- was a doctor part of the shura that drafted the email? I am only looking for a simple yes/no answer.
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#411 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2022 17:54
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What is the email about?
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Ahmed ibn Hanbal said, "If in any matter there is agreement between three people, then one pays no attention to the verdict of anyone who disagrees with them." Someone asked him, "Who are they?" He answered, "Abu Hanifah, Abu Yusuf and Muhammad ibn al-Hasan.
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#412 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2022 18:04
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is your Fatwa of Halal still applicable
My question is simply this -- was a doctor part of the mashwarah that sent Mufti Sahab HA this email?
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#413 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2022 18:50
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Now read the exact part of the email that you quoted.

A doctor is not an expert in Halal and Haram.

You continue to fail to explain why a doctor is needed to be consulted on Halal and Haram. Since when is Halal and Haram a doctor's expertise? Where did you get that from? Why do you cause Fitnah deliberately?
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#414 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2022 19:10
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Yasin Sahab, I've asked a simple question. If a doctor is not required to be consulted in the drafting of this email, then please just say "a doctor was not consulted during the mashwara for this email." I will not probe the matter any further.
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Yasin Sahab, please explain why my simple "yes/no" question is causing "fitna." I would genuinely like to know.
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#415 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2022 19:16
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Yasin Sahab, please explain why my simple "yes/no" question is causing "fitna." I would genuinely like to know.


Sure. But first I'd like to add that my surname is not "Sahab". Please address me as "Yasin" only and nothing more, nothing less.

Fitnah because you're requesting unrelated things done through Mashwarah. There is no "requirement" in Islam that an expert is needed for every topic discussed. In this case it's not even a topic of discussion or "subject matter".

Halal and Haram requires a person with knowledge of Qur'aan, Hadeeth and Usool. We have this expert. But you didn't ask if we have a qualified scholar, you specifically asked if we have a "doctor" when a doctor is not required here. Off-topic, broken context, demanding unrelated experts and not even reading the original email is nothing but Fitnah. Don't let this account become what your last account became.
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#416 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2022 19:25
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not even reading the original email
Sir, this is unfair. I've read it twice. Once when it was posted, and next when you kindly gave me the link to re-read it.

I have some followup questions. I would like to understand more about "mashwarah."
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#417 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2022 21:24
On a similar note, was a pilot, butcher virologist, pediatrician or a tablighi consulted when drafting this email, then please just say "a pilot, butcher, virologist, pediatrician and a tablighi was not consulted during mashwara for this email and at the same time can you tell me more about mashwara. Lol!

Yasin, you need to stop wasting your resources on these characters.
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#418 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2022 22:12
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#419 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2022 05:17
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Jazakallah, I have read through the thread.

Now, may I ask some followup questions?
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#420 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2022 09:50
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Now, may I ask some followup questions?


Yes only if you consult with a doctor about the follow up questions. Please provide doctors name and expertise along with the follow up questions.
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