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#211 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd April 2020 17:53
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The seasonal flu also mutates. The annual vaccine still helps prevent it or lessen severity.
They adjust the vaccine annually to account for some of the mutation.

I think it will depend a lot on what the mutations do. A very recent report here in the US showed that the mutations had not increased it's danger or severity.

Edit: I only learned this yesterday. We STILL vaccinate against the strain of the flu that caused the 1918 Spanish flu. I'm sure it has weakened, but it is still a part of the annual flu. (Type A)
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#212 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd April 2020 19:54
Iranian Islamic medicine ‘specialist’ claims camel urine cures coronavirus infections

Sabili, the director of a religious-scientific institution in Iran, also previously claimed that a US research institute proved that camel urine is a cure and medicine for cancer.

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Mehdi Sabili posted a video on his Instagram account which has more than 600,000 followers
In the video, Sabali drank a glass of camel urine and called on viewers to drink it three times a day for three days.

An Iranian man claiming to be a specialist in Islamic medicine called on Iranians to drink camel urine because it is the “best cure” for coronavirus infections.

Mehdi Sabili posted a video on his Instagram account, which has more than 600,000 followers, and said that the drink can also cure lung diseases and help people with asthma.
Sabili, the director of a religious-scientific institution in Iran, also previously claimed that a US research institute proved that camel urine is a cure and medicine for cancer.

Sabili is popular among some of the regime's loyalists and often uses his social media platforms to spread the government's propaganda.In Iran, Islamic medicine refers to the previous and current sayings of Shia imams on how to treat patients, which often contradicts modern medicine.

In the video, Sabali drank a glass of camel urine and called on viewers to drink it three times a day for three days.
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#213 [Permalink] Posted on 24th April 2020 00:29
COVIDIOT45 today....

Trump on his ideas for treatment to DHS official: “Suppose that we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light and I think you said that it hasn’t been checked and you’re going to test it... Suppose you can bring the light inside the body”
“And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in one minute. Is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning … it would be interesting to check that.”

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#214 [Permalink] Posted on 26th April 2020 23:46
It seems the Muslims really do need to understand the meaning of Tawakul and Precautions!

www.westernjournal.com/covid-cases-muslim-world-surge-fai...

COVID Cases in Muslim World Could Surge as Faithful Flood Mosques, Claim Allah Protects Them

By Carmine Sabia

Worshipping God is a universal desire for the faithful in every land, but gathering to do it in 2020 can be a dangerous proposition.

Many worshippers have been furious at being blocked from attending church services in the United States, but churches have largely respected the orders from the government.

Similar conflicts are taking place in the Muslim world, according to news reports: Many believe either their faith will protect them from infection, or that the infection itself is some kind of anti-Islamic conspiracy dreamed up in the West.

Iran, a Muslim country that has lost thousands of its people to COVID-19, shows that’s not true, but the beliefs apparently persist.

In Islamabad, Pakistan, a Muslim named Sabir Durrani, 52, is “is among thousands of devout Muslims flouting Pakistan government orders issued late last month banning religious congregations of five or more people to stem the spread of the coronavirus,” according to Reuters.

He told the news agency he prays daily in a mosque in the central part of the city and that there are around a dozen other men there with him, none of whom wear protective face masks.

“Our prayer leader told us that the virus can’t infect us the way it does Western people,” he said.

“He said we wash our hands and we wash our face five times a day before we say our prayers, and the infidels don’t, so we need not worry. God is with us.”

The same skepticism is evident in other parts of the Muslim world, according to news reports.


The dozen or so in Durrani’s mosque in Islamabad pale in comparison to what occurred in Lhokseumawe in the Aceh province of Indonesia, according to the U.K. Daily Mail reported.

Hundreds of worshippers gathered at the Islamic Center mosque for services on Friday as the nation has become a hotbed of infections, the newspaper reported.

It trails only the Philippines for coronavirus infections in Southeast Asia but the worshippers defied social distancing guidelines anyway.

As of Friday 420 people had perished from the virus in Indonesia and 5,923 people had been infected, the Mail reported.

Sadly, some Muslim leaders have been leading their followers astray by holding these services. But the possibility of mass infection isn’t the only hazard.

In Nigeria, the leader of the influential Izala Muslim sect, Sheikh Sani Yahaya Jingir, told followers the news about the pandemic is not true, according to the Nigeria Guardian.

He claims the coronavirus is a “lie” created by the United States and President Donald Trump to prevent Muslims from worshipping, The Guardian reported.

“Is the virus as effective as fire that could not burn Prophet Ibrahim…? Then the virus is a lie,” he said, according to the newspaper.

“Whatever people have to say, they should say the truth. A professor has said it was a lie,” he said in an address on Izala TV.

“President of Turkey declared that they shouldn’t stop the Juma’at congregation because of coronavirus, because they don’t believe in the virus, they only believe in Allah.

“Another country in Europe, also took the same path. Ask United States President Donald Trump. They are just unveiling coronavirus that was written in a book 39 years ago. How many graves of coronavirus victims have you seen and how many of the victims have you seen in hospitals?” he asked.


“We were witnessed to the cholera epidemic in Kano and we saw how massive burials were done. We saw the graves, but where are those of coronavirus victims?” he said.

Look, we get it. As Christians, we believe that God will protect us too, and He has — by sending us medical experts who are advising us on how to protect ourselves.

God is everywhere and He can hear your prayers wherever you are, so stay home, stay safe and keep praying.
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#215 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2020 00:40
Just saw a video of my local hospital. Doctors and nurses gathered outside. Asian music group playing drums. Members of the public gathered together watching and cheering. A few police officers scattered around joining in the celebrations.

What happened to social distancing?
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#216 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2020 01:02
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I don't think front line staff can maintain social distancing. I couldn't tell from the video if they were local residents as well. This clapping things is becoming a joke now. Couple of Thursdays ago people had gathered at the west minister bridge to clap
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#217 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2020 01:12
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The bhangra group were definitely not front line staff lol.
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#218 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2020 03:31
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#219 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2020 03:37
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My sons currently volunteering at the Nightingale hospital in London and doing shift work there. He says there is nothing like social distancing. Staff sitting around together in the cafeteria with no face masks. He says it's a complete joke.

I read the London hospital only had 30 patients admitted whilst the Birmingham branch had no patients admitted in it.



Another thing, my cousin Dr's colleague, also a doctor said she went home and found her mum to be ill, not covid related so she called the ambulance to be taken to the hospital.

The paramedic told the doctor at home that if the mum is taken away from home and admitted to the hospital, there is no return. They were told to say their goodbyes forever and let other family members know too.

This doc was shocked but had no choice but to admit her mum.

A few days later they were told she tested positive and then died in hospital.

Something really creepy going on!


Anyone visiting the hospital are not going to come back and that's the message GP practitioners are also giving (indirectly)
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#220 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2020 03:39
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I know of a couple of people like that. They went hospital for a normal routine thing, they ended up dead!

My dad's youngest first cousin, only 48. She was put on the ventilator in a Canadian hospital and unfortunately, she died too. No health concerns, no illness.
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#221 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2020 04:30
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Is this from what's app or this what you have heard?
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#222 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2020 05:10
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#223 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2020 05:28
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#224 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2020 10:24
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Another thing, my cousin Dr's colleague, also a doctor said she went home and found her mum to be ill, not covid related so she called the ambulance to be taken to the hospital.

The paramedic told the doctor at home that if the mum is taken away from home and admitted to the hospital, there is no return. They were told to say their goodbyes forever and let other family members know too.

This doc was shocked but had no choice but to admit her mum.

A few days later they were told she tested positive and then died in hospital.

Something really creepy going on!


Anyone visiting the hospital are not going to come back and that's the message GP practitioners are also giving (indirectly)


Salaam

I have come across similar claims on various social media platforms. I have ignored them as I don't know the people making these claims and no evidence is being put forward.

Can you elaborate on this? Do you have more details? Maybe a testimony from those who witnessed It?
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#225 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2020 12:40
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It's not a forward.

This is exactly what I've been told by family members who work in the NHS.

"If you go to the hospital, say your goodbyes"

This is not a joke!

If your feeling sick, you've got a better chance of recovery at home.

The government is encouraging the people to go and attend the hospital for their normal needs because the Nightingale Hospitals are housing the covid patients.

What a load of non sense!

The news articles clearly mention that they hardly have any patients, so one can guess where the daily 500+ deaths are happening.

What I share is either news articles or first hand information from inside sources.

The issue is serious, the virus is a killer but there are more chances of dying in the hospital.

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