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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 17th September 2019 15:11

I can read, speak and write Urdu fluently and natively. However it is an extremely difficult language to teach and learn because it has no structure around it UNLIKE Arabic!

Problem 1 for Urdu People:

The biggest problem with Urdu (as inherited from Persian) is gender-neutrality. For example two words:

  1. Masjid
  2. Madrasah

Which one is masculine and feminine in Urdu and W-H-Y?


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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 17th September 2019 16:45
Perhaps the reason for it's structurelessness is that it was invented by accident or out of necessity because the Mughals wanted a lingua franca for their multi-national army and they didn't care about it's structure at that time.

By the way.

Masjid is feminine and Madrassa is masculine.

Don't know why.

Interestingly, I watched it today before seeing this thread..
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 17th September 2019 16:49

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Why is the most important question :lol

Masjid is feminine and Madrassa is masculine because you speak like that and you know. :P but there is no grammar rules for it.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 17th September 2019 16:51
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So every language must have grammatical rules? Is it necessary?
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 17th September 2019 16:52

Problem 2 for Urdu People:

The second problem with Urdu is its innate ability to absorb words from foreign languages without having a care in the world as to how it should be made indigenous.

Example:

What is the Urdu word for "Rasberry" and "password"? It can be constructed and has been but nobody cares because the language has absorbed English words, as it is

100 points to anyone who can tell me what is "password" in Urdu without Google?



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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 17th September 2019 16:52
Masjid is the mother and madrassah is her male child.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 17th September 2019 16:53

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So how do you teach it to someone who does not speak it? You can teach Arabic fairly easily and that why grammar rules are important.

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 17th September 2019 16:53
And Khanqah is the female child of masjid.
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 17th September 2019 16:56
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It's simple. We drill it in that person. It is the way it is. If the student persists on asking the logic behind it then our teachers will beat that person till he learns to remain silent or flees ;)
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 17th September 2019 16:58
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 17th September 2019 16:59
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Khufia Alfaaz

Indiraj Number

Khufia Chaabi

خفیہ الفاظ
اندراج نمبر
خفیہ چابی
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 17th September 2019 17:01
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In Urdu, the "p" is removed from Raspberry. So what you have is the Urdu version i.e. Rasberry ;)

In English, we don't even pronounce the P :(
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 17th September 2019 17:08

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Password in Urdu

There is an actual compound word for password in Urdu and when you hear it, it will make perfect sense! :P

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 17th September 2019 18:19
کلمہ شناخت
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 17th September 2019 18:37
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