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I have never seen such a shameless person in my life! This whole argument is already destroyed in multiple parts. This guy ran away from the forum, now he is back with the SAME ARGUMENT which has been completely debunked.
Each and every one of his arguments (here on the forum, from his site and that of misguided friends) is thoroughly debunked.
I request him to make a proper argument like the one and make a comprehensible point instead of saying the same thing OVER & OVER again like a broken record!
وَمَا Ù…ÙØَمَّدٌ Ø¥Ùلَّا رَسÙولٌ۬ قَدۡ خَلَتۡ Ù…ÙÙ† قَبۡلÙه٠ٱلرّÙسÙÙ„ÙÛš Ø£ÙŽÙÙŽØ¥Ùيْن مَّاتَ Ø£ÙŽÙˆÛ¡ Ù‚ÙتÙÙ„ÙŽ ٱنقَلَبۡتÙÙ…Û¡ عَلَىٰٓ أَعۡقَـٰبÙÙƒÙÙ…Û¡Ûš ÙˆÙŽÙ…ÙŽÙ† يَنقَلÙبۡ عَلَىٰ عَقÙبَيۡه٠ÙÙŽÙ„ÙŽÙ† يَضÙرَّ ٱللَّهَ شَيۡـًٔ۬اۗ وَسَيَجۡزÙÙ‰ ٱللَّه٠ٱلشَّـٰڪÙرÙينَ
[3:144] Muhammad is but a messenger, there have been messengers before him. So, if he dies or is killed, would you turn back on your heels? Whoever turns back on his heels can never harm Allah in the least. Allah shall soon reward the grateful.
Once again the Qadiyanees display their ignorance of the Arabic language by translating this verse to mean that ALL MESSENGERS BEFORE PROPHET MUHAMMAD (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) have passed away! This verse doesn’t mean this at all, it means that MANY MESSENGERS BEFORE PROPHET MUHAMMAD (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) have passed (meaning that many prophets existed before him).
To demonstrate that this weak verb (Khalo/Khalat) doesn’t mean Maata (the second word) highlighted in RED in the verse, we bring you 3 proofs.
Hens Wehr Arabic Dictionary. This guy is a German Non-Muslim so Qadiyanees can't accuse me of bringing in a Sunni
Screen shot Qur’aan translation of Hakeem Nuruddin called Haqaiq-e-Qur’aan where he also translated the verse to mean that MANY MESSENGERS BEFORE PROPHET MUHAMMAD (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) have passed (meaning that many prophets existed before him).
He then inserts a note into his commentary about the passing away of Sayyidina Isa (AS) BUT he couldn’t prove this from his translation
This guy is a Qadiyani himself so I cannot possibly be accused of bringing a non-acceptable translation
مَّا ٱلۡمَسÙÙŠØ٠ٱبۡن٠مَرۡيَمَ Ø¥Ùلَّا رَسÙولٌ۬ قَدۡ خَلَتۡ Ù…ÙÙ† قَبۡلÙه٠ٱلرّÙسÙÙ„Ù ÙˆÙŽØ£ÙمّÙÙ‡Ù Û¥ صÙدّÙيقَةٌ۬ۖ ڪَانَا ÙŠÙŽØ£Û¡ÚªÙلَان٠ٱلطَّعَامَۗ ٱنظÙرۡ ÚªÙŽÙŠÛ¡ÙÙŽ Ù†ÙبَيّÙÙ†Ù Ù„ÙŽÙ‡Ùم٠ٱلۡأَيَـٰت٠ثÙمَّ ٱنظÙرۡ أَنَّىٰ ÙŠÙؤۡÙÙŽÙƒÙونَ
[5:75] The MasiH, son of Maryam, is no more than a Messenger. There have been messengers before him. His mother was very truthful. Both of them used to eat food. Look how We explain signs to them, then see how far they are turned away.
Same word which has been analysed and presented above being mistranslated here. Yes we agree that Messengers existed before Sayyidina Isa (AS) and his Mother Sayyida Maryam (AS), what’s the problem with that?
The verse talks about the fact that both Sayyidina Isa (AS) and his Mother Sayyida Maryam (AS) ate food WHILE they lived on Earth, so what is the problem with that? What does this have to do with Qadiyani’ism??? :P :P :P
We believe that Sayyidina Isa (AS) is in the heavens (proven previously from the Qur’aan). The Qadiyanees then ask HOW is he being fed? And if he is not being fed then surely he is dead!
It’s a STUPID argument because the Qur’aan talks about Ashabul-Kahf (the people of the Cave) who Allah (SWT) made Sleep for hundreds of years and there is no mention of food and all this happened on Earth so Allah (SWT) can look after Ashabul-Kahf on EARTH, Allah (SWT) can look after His Prophet Isa (AS) in the HEAVENS!
وَڪَذَٲلÙÙƒÙŽ بَعَثۡنَـٰهÙÙ…Û¡ Ù„ÙيَتَسَآءَلÙواْ بَيۡنَÛÙÙ…Û¡Ûš قَالَ قَآٮٕÙلٌ۬ مّÙÙ†Û¡ÛÙÙ…Û¡ ÚªÙŽÙ…Û¡ لَبÙثۡتÙÙ…Û¡Û– قَالÙواْ لَبÙثۡنَا يَوۡمًا Ø£ÙŽÙˆÛ¡ بَعۡضَ ÙŠÙŽÙˆÛ¡Ù…ÙÛ¬Ûš قَالÙواْ رَبّÙÙƒÙÙ…Û¡ أَعۡلَم٠بÙمَا لَبÙثۡتÙÙ…Û¡ ÙَٱبۡعَثÙوٓاْ Ø£ÙŽØَدَڪÙÙ… بÙوَرÙÙ‚ÙÙƒÙÙ…Û¡ هَـٰذÙÙ‡ÙÛ¦Û¤ Ø¥ÙÙ„ÙŽÙ‰ ٱلۡمَدÙينَة٠ÙَلۡيَنظÙرۡ أَيّÙÛَآ أَزۡكَىٰ طَعَامً۬ا ÙَلۡيَأۡتÙÚªÙÙ… بÙرÙزۡقÙÛ¬ مّÙنۡه٠وَلۡيَتَلَطَّÙÛ¡ وَلَا ÙŠÙشۡعÙرَنَّ بÙÚªÙÙ…Û¡ Ø£ÙŽØَدًا
[18:19] In this way We raised them up until they asked each other. One of them said, .How long did you tarry?. They said, .A day, or part of a day.. They said, .Your Lord knows best how long you tarried.. So, send one of you with this silver (coin) of yours to the city and let him look around which of the eatables are the purest and let him bring you some food from there. And he must act in polite manner, and must not let anyone know about you.
ÙˆÙŽØ¥ÙØ°Û¡ قَالَ ٱللَّه٠يَـٰعÙيسَى ٱبۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ ءَأَنتَ Ù‚Ùلۡتَ Ù„Ùلنَّاس٠ٱتَّخÙØ°ÙونÙÙ‰ ÙˆÙŽØ£ÙمّÙÙ‰ÙŽ Ø¥Ùلَـٰهَيۡن٠مÙÙ† دÙون٠ٱللَّهÙÛ– قَالَ سÙبۡØَـٰنَكَ مَا ÙŠÙŽÙƒÙون٠لÙىٓ Ø£ÙŽÙ†Û¡ Ø£ÙŽÙ‚Ùولَ مَا لَيۡسَ Ù„ÙÙ‰ بÙØَقّÙÛš Ø¥ÙÙ† ÙƒÙنت٠قÙلۡتÙÙ‡Ù Û¥ Ùَقَدۡ عَلÙمۡتَه٠ۥۚ تَعۡلَم٠مَا ÙÙÙ‰ Ù†ÙŽÙۡسÙÙ‰ وَلَآ أَعۡلَم٠مَا ÙÙÙ‰ Ù†ÙŽÙۡسÙÙƒÙŽÛš Ø¥Ùنَّكَ أَنتَ عَلَّـٰم٠ٱلۡغÙÙŠÙوب٠مَا Ù‚Ùلۡت٠لَهÙÙ…Û¡ Ø¥Ùلَّا مَآ أَمَرۡتَنÙÙ‰ بÙÙ‡ÙÛ¦Û¤ أَن٠ٱعۡبÙدÙواْ ٱللَّهَ رَبّÙÙ‰ وَرَبَّكÙÙ…Û¡Ûš ÙˆÙŽÙƒÙنت٠عَلَيۡÛÙÙ…Û¡ Ø´ÙŽÛÙيدً۬ا مَّا دÙمۡت٠ÙÙÙŠÛÙÙ…Û¡Û– Ùَلَمَّا تَوَÙَّيۡتَنÙÙ‰ ÙƒÙنتَ أَنتَ ٱلرَّقÙيبَ عَلَيۡÛÙÙ…Û¡Ûš وَأَنتَ عَلَىٰ ÙƒÙلّ٠شَىۡءÙÛ¬ Ø´ÙŽÛÙيدٌ
[5:116] And when Allah said, .O Isa, son of Maryam, did you say to the people: Take me and my mother as gods beside Allah?. He said, .Pure are You, it does not behoove me to say what is not right for me. Had I said it, You would have known it. You know what is in my heart, and I do not know what is in Your‘s. You alone have full knowledge of all that is unseen. [5:117] I have not said to them anything but what You have ordered me to say, that is, Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord‘ and I was a witness over them as long as I was with them. But when You recalled me, You were the One watching over them. You are a witness over everything.
These verses are talking about the day of Judgement i.e. Allah (SWT) will ask Sayyidina Isa (AS) and his Mother Sayyida Maryam (AS) if they had commanded people to take them as gods, which they will (obviously) deny.
This discussion takes place in the FUTURE and to prove it we bring you the evidence from Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyani (himself):
Not even 30 years had passed on the Old Testament that the worship of God was replaced by the worship of a human i.e. Isa (AS) was made into a Deity [Shahma-e-Muarifat page 254 & Rohani Khazain page 63]
Allah (SWT) showed this (Christian) Fitnah (which has been described above) to Sayyidina Isa (AS) IN THE HEAVENS that your Nation has caused this calamity [Aina-e-Kamalat, Page 268]
Are we supposed to believe this guy who has run away twice and then come back making the same arguments OR Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyani who interprets this verse to mean that Sayyidina Isa (AS) is in the HEAVENS?
This cannot be undone and I am sure it will be greatly appreciated.
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